In regards to the Shen VU, why no voicelines or specific animation?

NA Darklarik··15 votes·6,268 views

No new VO, no joke animation, no recall animations.

Wasted opportunity, considering knowing Riot, they will probably never re-visit Shen again, same as Maokai. Vo lines for his interactions with his fellow ninja, Zed, and Jhin, that could have given input on the lore.... all wasted wasted.

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RiotWAAARGHbobo5 votes

I'm not on champ up. But in general, its a very, very small team working around deadlines. Rewriting, recording, processing and then having all 17+ languages localized and recorded takes several months. And because they are always trying get the best work done they can, they have to prioritize. So if a champ's VO is "acceptable" they might instead use that time to work on another champ whose VO is "awful." Eventually, they will make their way through the whole lineup several times... but they can't high polish every aspect of a champ-- all the time.

Fasmodey1 votes

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I'm not on champ up. But in general, its a very, very small team working around deadlines. Rewriting, recording, processing and then having all 17+ languages localized and recorded takes several months. And because they are always trying get the best work done they can, they have to prioritize. So if a champ's VO is "acceptable" they might instead use that time to work on another champ whose VO is "awful." Eventually, they will make their way through the whole lineup several times... but they can't high polish every aspect of a champ-- all the time.

Is there any hope to see VO updates in the future? Even for visually updated champions like Kassadin, Maokai etc.

RiotWAAARGHbobo3 votes

We are working on it. But actually making polls, asking for it on reddit and on these boards... will. get. noticed. LoL fans always have the ability to affect our priorities. But, much like game balance or lore, it will sometimes take months from when you make the posts for us to find a way to fix it. But we are always trying and listening.

Fasmodey1 votes

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We are working on it. But actually making polls, asking for it on reddit and on these boards... will. get. noticed. LoL fans always have the ability to affect our priorities. But, much like game balance or lore, it will sometimes take months from when you make the posts for us to find a way to fix it. But we are always trying and listening.

Late is better than nothing. Thanks! Kassadin VO will be super cool, I'm sure.

Yuri By Mail1 votes

Let's be honest, he already has an awesome voice. More lines would probably be cool though.

NA Darklarik3 votes

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We are working on it. But actually making polls, asking for it on reddit and on these boards... will. get. noticed. LoL fans always have the ability to affect our priorities. But, much like game balance or lore, it will sometimes take months from when you make the posts for us to find a way to fix it. But we are always trying and listening.

good enough for me. Here's a question tho, during the Acencion event that followed Azir's release, Xerath and Renekton received quite a few new voice lines, that seemed to be exclusive to the event, and then... gone. WHY!? Like the new lines when he becomes acended could easily be placed in game when he ults among other things..

RiotWAAARGHbobo1 votes

Sorry, Donno. I was just starting then (and working on DunkMaster. So not aware of the thinking on it.

ExecutorDill1 votes

So ya in a nutshell you like shen's current voice actor? Hey I like him too but giving the guy no VO lines was kind of a low blow. They are a lot of lore fans out there... I'm one of them... err... sort of (don't really read up on lore like I used to) and league players are just dying to find out more about Shen, Zed and Jhin.

RiotWAAARGHbobo2 votes

Jhin's lore will illustrate some of the past and present of all three of these characters. (Should be out soon)

Gapybo5 votes

Why is it that small? If anything it should be one of the bigger teams. It's quite sad to hear how little riot cares to actually polish their existing content. There are still so many old champions who look like they don't even fit into the same game as the new ones. It should be a priority to bring them to a similar level if Riot actually want to make the game look consistent and not thrown together.

GreenLore1 votes

Probably because that way they can work on multiple things at once.

If they focused that much effort on a rather small scale rework as shens,then there wouldn't be enough people left to work on the bigger reworks.

TotalJerk1 votes

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It's quite sad to hear how little riot cares to actually polish their existing content.

Poppy? Sion? Gangplank? Karthus? Trundle? The Shurima voice lines?

Clôude1 votes

Can you please just remove his stupid light catching a ninja line. I cringe so freaking hard every time I hear it; he sounds like an old man arguing that global warming doesn't exist. Not to mention the fact that he's the least stealthy ninja of the bunch.

Dreamspitter1 votes

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Can you please just remove his stupid light catching a ninja line. I cringe so freaking hard every time I hear it; he sounds like an old man arguing that global warming doesn't exist. Not to mention the fact that he's the least stealthy ninja of the bunch.

Dont remove one of the best parts!

Clôude1 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

darkdill2 votes

VO's cost money, which Riot doesn't want to spend. Easy answer.

Ralanr1 votes

I was wondering if they gave him a new VO. Guess they didn't.

I'm assuming those things take time and preparation that Riot didn't expect they would need. Shen wasn't supposed to get a VU after all.

Makuta Teridax1 votes

It's actually great that I see this thread. Not long ago I tried to open a similar one on Reddit, expressing my concern on those smaller Champion Updates and what it may take to their compleition. Stuff like Renekton, who could benefit from some updated Animations (and a recall one) (NOTE: He had some VO added in 2014, but it sounds different from base. Why, I don't know), Fiora, Maokai. Shen here is the Prime example: We see him, he has barely 10 lines, missed chance at interactions with Zed (who will need new interactions too, in return), low number of animations.

I understand that CU needs deadlines and there are bigger projects like Poppy or Taric. I get that it would be impossible to update the number of champions that do need balance, gameplay and/or Visual Updates to their models, either big or low scale. But what worries me is that we have yet to see an update to Renekton who i believe was the first small project in the new Champ Update production plan. Or stuff like, say, Ahri, who has a great kit but her base model looks so... squary. Enter Foxfire or Challenger Ahri, there's so much of a difference.

I don't know guys, I'm pretty sure that a new team should be created for those more... "Artistic" reason or low priority stuff that needs so much work (VO, for example. I know it's a lot of languages to get through and it must be hell. Damn, I'd rather not count the number of champions that need new lines truly, it might make anyone afraid lol).

BLU Medic1 votes

I can understand the hard work in making and translating voice lines, but I thought there would be a recall animation?

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Well, we were already noted that Shen's rework isn't Sion/Poppy level, so things like you listed wasn't suppose to be added anyway.

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