My two cents on the Riven/yas killer theory

DoomRPG··3 votes·878 views

this is old as all hell but I wanted to give my thoughts on this theory So for those that live under a rock Yasuo's story is that he was an arrogent student who was the only in an entire generation to master the wind technique, he was put to task by his brother to defend an elder a humble task, he got cocky and went to fight in a battle that was raging nearby, winning it for Ionia but when he went back the Elder was dead he turned himself in but it was thought he was the killer, so yasuo fought his way out to find the real killer, on the way out he killed his brother but before he died he asked why he was thought to be the killer Yas's brother said he died to a wind technique so who else could it be. Riven was a soilder for Noxus, basically an uncle sam or uh an aunt.. idk that was a firm beliver in Noxian strength above all, but during the Ionian contact Singed used bio weapons on both noxian and ionians alike, Riven deserted.

So why is riven thought to be the killer? Well it simply Yasuo will comment on her broken wings (his Q is a knock up and so is hers, it also has a unique effect on the third hit) and the fact her ultimate ultimate is called wind-slash.

Well my thoughts are this heres how i actually see how all charcters that could be potentially (or are) involved Yasuo innocent unintentionally framed Riven Innocent intended to be framed Leblanc Guilty Killer MasterYimight be killer (EXTREMLY unlikely) Reasoning Lets go with the easies first yi and yasuo MasterYi Wuju could be some type of wind technique and if its not whos to say Yi doesnt know SOMETHING in it, however I doubt this for obvious reasons if the elder was a noxian cospirator yi killing him isnt entirely unreasonable but I doubt this is the case Yasuo Yasuo is innocent because his lore is from his perspective and he started drinking AFTER the incident so he cant be the killer

Heres were it get interesting atleast to me I Think Leblanc is the killer, however I belive she wanted to frame Riven, and was not aware of Yasuo's wind technique the reasoning I have for this is a few. 1. Leblanc is an assasin, only the elder died and there was no collateral damage if riven killed the elder I find it difficult she didnt also break something else, ranging from a minor vase breaking to a pillar collapsing Riven kit seems to suggest she is a rough fighter so no collateral damage is suspicious. 2Leblanc's motive could be considered simple, Riven deserted is a threat to noxus but not Ionia, give Ionia a reason to hunt her down. However I doubt Ionia knew Riven was capable of any sort of wind technique she was a captain and poster-girl of the Noxian military not someone hugely important however unluckly for yasuo he was stationed to guard that elder, and in fact I belive when yasuo left to fight the elder was already killed by leblanc using her mimic magic to copy Riven's wind slash heres how I think the scene went Yasuo is stationed to guard the elder Leblanc assasinated the elder with Riven's Wind slash yasuo remains unaware Yasuo goes out to fight he returns and sees that the elder is dead he turns himself in lore continues as normal

heres why I think this 1.Yasuo does NOT recognize that the elder was killed by a wind technique, and hes mastered it! so clearly it wasnt a wind technique, what if it was wind MAGIC made to look like a technique, yasuo has shown with his interactions with riven to know how to spot a wind technique yet is caught COMPLETELY off guard when his brother tells him the killer used a wind technique 2.If the Elder is discovered to die BEFORE yasuo "left" his word of going to fight could be execused as allibi building 3. when yasuo turns himself in he is immediantly accused so no other wind technique user was in the area OTHER then yasuo that ionia knows of 4.I feel like Riven would not kill an elder since they seem to be like spirutual leaders more then anything (Syndra's master and Karma seemed quite faithful) and shes not someone who kills anyone and everyone thats all tell me what you think

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GreenLore4 votes

I doubt that Leblanc is the killer. I mean what would be her motif?She wanted to frame Riven?Why would she do that?Riven was either considered to be on the side of Noxus or thought to be dead. Not to mention that this happened during the war,so if anything Riven would get a reward for killing the elder(not that anyone could really compare it,I mean Leblanc can't take a photo of the dead body and then bring it to Noxus,to tell everyone that Riven did it). Also just because Leblanc is an illusionist,doesn't mean that she could create actual wind magic.

And it is never specified how much collateral damage was done.It simply said that the elder was dead,not if the surrounding was devastated or not.

As for your points: 1.Yasuo likely found the elder dead,but did not examine his wounds.He likely believed that an unknown soldier or assassin killed the elder.

2.Since Yasuos lore mentions that he turnd hmself in,we can assume that Yasuo was the one who found the body and no one else.

3.Uhm yeah,thats pretty much the entire point why people think it was riven,as she has a wind technique that Ionia likely wouldn't know about.

4.It was rivens job to kill the weakened during the invasion.And while it wasn't something that she did not enjoy,she still did it. So there is really no reason why Riven would hesitate to kill one of the ionian leaders,even if he was defenseless.

DoomRPG1 votes

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I doubt that Leblanc is the killer. I mean what would be her motif?She wanted to frame Riven?Why would she do that?Riven was either considered to be on the side of Noxus or thought to be dead. Not to mention that this happened during the war,so if anything Riven would get a reward for killing the elder(not that anyone could really compare it,I mean Leblanc can't take a photo of the dead body and then bring it to Noxus,to tell everyone that Riven did it). Also just because Leblanc is an illusionist,doesn't mean that she could create actual wind magic.

And it is never specified how much collateral damage was done.It simply said that the elder was dead,not if the surrounding was devastated or not.

As for your points: 1.Yasuo likely found the elder dead,but did not examine his wounds.He likely believed that an unknown soldier or assassin killed the elder.

2.Since Yasuos lore mentions that he turnd hmself in,we can assume that Yasuo was the one who found the body and no one else.

3.Uhm yeah,thats pretty much the entire point why people think it was riven,as she has a wind technique that Ionia likely wouldn't know about.

4.It was rivens job to kill the weakened during the invasion.And while it wasn't something that she did not enjoy,she still did it. So there is really no reason why Riven would hesitate to kill one of the ionian leaders,even if he was defenseless.

I guess your points do make sense, Leblanc is an illusionist that has been alive for ALOT longer then she looks, I personaly find the fact she wouldnt be able to copy a wind technique with her magic more unbelivable I think yasuo would have noticed when he found the elder dead if the 3 pillers behind the elder were sliced in half, the lore is from his perspective so either yasuo is INCREDIABLE inept at noticing details, or forgot that the whatever was behind the elder was equally as dead as he was Leblanc has a motive It should be known that Riven is well known inside of Noxus but most likely unknown elsewere, shes the poster girl of the Noxian military, 1/10 people outside of america prob dont know uncle sam as anything other then a fancy face on a posterm whilst 9/10 americans would know the fact he is the face for american bla bla bla, the same applies to riven, except since their isnt an internet Its probally closer to 1/1000 ish ionias and closer to 1/6 noxians know who riven is. Leblanc by killing the elder is giving the Ionians a reason to kill Riven since she deserted, Riven when she Deserted Was a potential threat to Noxus by spilling infomation sabotage etc, but its to much effort to send people that will DEFIANTLY kill her Talon Katarina and lower assasins might either be killed or permently criplied, Leblanc is doing a bit of killing two birds with one stone by making Riven a target to Ionia Ionia kills riven and wastes manpower and resources trying to kill her boom problem solved and enemy weakend, the thing leblanc didnt account for is that Ionia doesnt know Riven exists, so they instead pin the blame on the only possible villain, Yasuo Elders are spirtual leaders, Riven values strength and she seems pretty serious about strength only considering she DESERTED her HOMELAND just because they allied with singed who used chemical weapons ONCE I find it really difficult for me to consider her attacking a priest, Sure she'll kill pretty much anyone that could be a soilder, but harming a priest? no Yasuo found the elder dead, but nobody else found the elder between yas leaving going to a battle fighting said battle, then returning to said battle (That prob took 3-5 hours) Also I find it unlikely Yasuo DIDNT examine the body, because, you know you might want to verify that the wound was fatal, or how they died or what killed them, Yasuo is a warrior yes but he isnt stupid

GreenLore1 votes

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I guess your points do make sense, Leblanc is an illusionist that has been alive for ALOT longer then she looks, I personaly find the fact she wouldnt be able to copy a wind technique with her magic more unbelivable

The thing is that Leblanc isn't immortal,Leblanc is merely a title that is passed down,so the current leblanc isn't the same one from elises lore.

Also from what we know about magic in runeterra it looks like some people are born with the talent for one kind of magic,but no others(for example Taliyah is good at earth magic,but can likely never learn any other form of magic),so its likely that leblanc can't do much aside from her illusion-magic.

I think yasuo would have noticed when he found the elder dead if the 3 pillers behind the elder were sliced in half, the lore is from his perspective so either yasuo is INCREDIABLE inept at noticing details, or forgot that the whatever was behind the elder was equally as dead as he was

Again the lore does not say anything about the state of the surroundings. It doesn't say that the pillars are broken,but it doesn't say that they aren't broken either. The room could have been completely trashed,or could have been completely fine,the lore simply doesn't go too much into detail about this.

Leblanc has a motive It should be known that Riven is well known inside of Noxus but most likely unknown elsewere, shes the poster girl of the Noxian military, 1/10 people outside of america prob dont know uncle sam as anything other then a fancy face on a posterm whilst 9/10 americans would know the fact he is the face for american bla bla bla, the same applies to riven, except since their isnt an internet Its probally closer to 1/1000 ish ionias and closer to 1/6 noxians know who riven is. Leblanc by killing the elder is giving the Ionians a reason to kill Riven since she deserted, Riven when she Deserted Was a potential threat to Noxus by spilling infomation sabotage etc, but its to much effort to send people that will DEFIANTLY kill her Talon Katarina and lower assasins might either be killed or permently criplied, Leblanc is doing a bit of killing two birds with one stone by making Riven a target to Ionia Ionia kills riven and wastes manpower and resources trying to kill her boom problem solved and enemy weakend, the thing leblanc didnt account for is that Ionia doesnt know Riven exists, so they instead pin the blame on the only possible villain, Yasuo

They didn't even know that riven deserted,they thought she was dead. Not to mention that,like I said before,the ionians likely had no idea about Rivens wind powers(thats why they accused yasuo,because they didn't know that there was a noxian who can do that as well). And why would they?Riven did a butchers job,mostly finishing off the weakened,she did not participate in any big battles that would make her known to the ionians.

Elders are spirtual leaders, Riven values strength and she seems pretty serious about strength only considering she DESERTED her HOMELAND just because they allied with singed who used chemical weapons ONCE I find it really difficult for me to consider her attacking a priest, Sure she'll kill pretty much anyone that could be a soilder, but harming a priest? no

She deserted her homeland,because her homeland was killing their own troops(and tried killing her) instead of fighting directly. Also again,the elders might be spiritual leaders,but they are still leaders,not to mention that Riven still killed a lot of people who couldn't fight back anymore. We also don't know if the elder was killed before or after Riven deserted,or if the elder had magical abilities to defend himself at least a bit.

Yasuo found the elder dead, but nobody else found the elder between yas leaving going to a battle fighting said battle, then returning to said battle (That prob took 3-5 hours) Also I find it unlikely Yasuo DIDNT examine the body, because, you know you might want to verify that the wound was fatal, or how they died or what killed them, Yasuo is a warrior yes but he isnt stupid

Well he likely checked the elders pulse,thats really all he'd need to check if he wanted to make sure that the elder was indeed dead.

DoomRPG1 votes

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The thing is that Leblanc isn't immortal,Leblanc is merely a title that is passed down,so the current leblanc isn't the same one from elises lore.

Also from what we know about magic in runeterra it looks like some people are born with the talent for one kind of magic,but no others(for example Taliyah is good at earth magic,but can likely never learn any other form of magic),so its likely that leblanc can't do much aside from her illusion-magic.

Again the lore does not say anything about the state of the surroundings. It doesn't say that the pillars are broken,but it doesn't say that they aren't broken either. The room could have been completely trashed,or could have been completely fine,the lore simply doesn't go too much into detail about this.

They didn't even know that riven deserted,they thought she was dead. Not to mention that,like I said before,the ionians likely had no idea about Rivens wind powers(thats why they accused yasuo,because they didn't know that there was a noxian who can do that as well). And why would they?Riven did a butchers job,mostly finishing off the weakened,she did not participate in any big battles that would make her known to the ionians.

She deserted her homeland,because her homeland was killing their own troops(and tried killing her) instead of fighting directly. Also again,the elders might be spiritual leaders,but they are still leaders,not to mention that Riven still killed a lot of people who couldn't fight back anymore. We also don't know if the elder was killed before or after Riven deserted,or if the elder had magical abilities to defend himself at least a bit.

Well he likely checked the elders pulse,thats really all he'd need to check if he wanted to make sure that the elder was indeed dead.

eh guess you win well done, It still bugs me that the lore is from yasuo's perspective yet he gives no details on the elders death, because apparently hes incrediable stupid and didnt really look into it

GreenLore1 votes

Well in general Yasuos lore is from a time where the biography of a champion was still rather brief,so its not uncommon for them to leave out a lot of details.

I mean compare yasuos biography with that of the human piltover champs,who recently received a lore update and you'll see that the piltover champs have lores that are easily twice as long as Yasuos(in some cases even thrice as long)

DoomRPG1 votes

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Well in general Yasuos lore is from a time where the biography of a champion was still rather brief,so its not uncommon for them to leave out a lot of details.

I mean compare yasuos biography with that of the human piltover champs,who recently received a lore update and you'll see that the piltover champs have lores that are easily twice as long as Yasuos(in some cases even thrice as long)

Yeah their simply isnt enought details to find a definitive killer, if riot ever updates yas lore and adds more details it either 100% proves or 100% disproves what most people could think or might be the killer

Ebonmaw Dragon2 votes

Fact Number 1: The elder was killed by the wind.

Fact Number 2: Kennen is the wind.

Fact Number 3: Kennen is a Ninja.

Fact Number 4: Yasuo hates ninjas.

Cointidence? I think Not.

HalfTangible1 votes

Kennen is lightning.

HalfTangible1 votes

He's an idiot.

All his skills use lightning.

Also, his E is literally 'i become a ball of lightning'

Case closed.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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He's an idiot.

All his skills use lightning.

Also, his E is literally 'i become a ball of lightning'

Case closed.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT HE LIES?

HalfTangible1 votes

Not at all!

I said he was an idiot.

Learn to read ;)

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