Lore: Rescues the people of Zaun, cleans up the streets, real stand up guy. Iron Giant type.
Game: Single minded, aggressive murder-bot. A brass terminator. Shit, look at his VO. Half of his lines either express a desire to hurt or an indifference towards human suffering.
InstaPoppy71 votesI personally feel like Blitz could use a vgu.
Clementine1 votesFor sure
Legacy Hydralpha5 votesAgreed. His model doesn't look that good (but skins make up for that) and his kit just doesn't seem like good design to me. Too much power is put into his hook.
ChaosThief4 votesHe's basically a CC bot too. All you do is take one person and lock them down, past that you're pretty much worthless.
Noraver24 votesI would like it if Blitz got a VGU and went more the way of Baymax from Big Hero 6. I think it'd be silly and fun. People would love him a lot more than his current "beep boop i'm a stereotypical robot that hurts people" personality.
NiceTryVi28 votesAnd also make it so he doesn't have a 4 second long CC chain all on his own. God, that is cancerous. His pull is more of a death sentence than the actual ability named death sentence.
MeBuffULongTime3 votesTotally, no support should be able to do all that he does, between that pull, the subsequent knock-up, and then the damage that goes with it is crazy.
SociopathFriend13 votesThat's because technically speaking he doesn't HAVE to be a Support. IIRC he was supposed to be a top-laner. Look at his kit- nothing directly benefits his allies in any way. No shields, no buffs, no heals, nada.
And unlike other super-CC characters like Leona and Naut, Blitz doesn't have any sort of readily-available defensive steroid, just his mana-shield which is not reliably up at all times.
So, he gets CC and damage, because he has nothing else.
Terozu1 votesEver build ad as blitz? It's fucking scary...
royalpaste4 votescritcrank is horrifing double ad on his e makes him able to actually one shot
Stormshadow35033 votesIt depends on the stage of the game. In the early game, the pulls will take out a nasty portion of your hp, but the only reason he should be able to pull you is if you screwed up positioning. Also, note that blitz is a very skill-based champion that's easy to punish if his hook is on cd.
Starcraft243ver1 votesCan you give me the maths behind the 4s cc chain ?
NiceTryVi2 votesPull takes about a second, and stuns your for .5 after. Knockup lasts for 1 second, and you are stunned for about a half second on landing there as well, and his ult is .5 sec. All together, that's 3.5 seconds of CC, all from one source, and only half a second of that CC allows you to move.
Terozu2 votes3 seconds hard cc .5 seconds soft cc.
Starcraft243ver1 votesWait what ?
Q stuns for .5s upon HITTING the target, the airbone effect is applied at the same time.
Knockup lasts for 1 second, and you are stunned for about a half second on landing there as well,
No, knockup lasts for 1s full. And that's all, you can immediatly move once you land.
So he's got 2.5s of CC, which is .... less than one single morgana's cage.
NiceTryVi1 votesNo, you're stunned upon landing just like the pull. And with morg cage, you are not left sitting right next to the enemy.
Starcraft243ver1 votesNo, you're stunned upon landing just like the pull.
No :)
The Q stuns during the whole displacement, with a minimum of 0.5s stun (if you point blank grab for example), but if the displacement lasts more than 0.5s you are no longer stunned upon landing.
The E : same, but since it's a knock up of 1s you are stunned for 1s and it stops upon landing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTHyp2DiVew
Look at 6s at .25 speed. Leesin can q and move right after the 1s knockup ends.
NiceTryVi2 votesyou're stunned upon landing just like the pull.
Yes :)
And no matter how you try to take the attention off the broken CC bot, the fact remains that through your protests, hes far worse than any other because he pulls you to his team, and the entire cc duration is spent next to them. I know you don't want your cancer nerfed, but you have to face the truth that he is a toxic champ with a toxic kit :)
nargnargnarg2 votesWhat if Blitzcrank could grab his teamates to safety?
KoKoboto17 votes"The time of men has come to an end." -Blitzcrank while saving Zaunites from a falling elevator
http://designroast.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/thinking-face.png
Chembaron Yamada14 votesThat's exactly how I feel. When you look at his lore, his subclass clearly should be Warden, a protective tank.
But in gameplay, he is a catcher. That subclass makes sense for Thresh, who wants to imprison souls to torture them. Or Zyra, who is a carnivorous plant and wants to consume everything. But does Blitzcranks lore really support a playstyle of "I grab that guy over there and doom him for death!"? I don't think so.
Blitzcrank and Singed are the worst offenders when it comes to lore/gameplay disconnect. I would wish for them to get a VGU soon to tackle exactly that problem, but unfortunately it seems they are not really high priority in the VGU list....
Oh, and sorry to derail a bit more, but I want to mention Orianna as well. Her new lore is that she was once a girl replacing all her organic parts with hextech and clockwork. While her gameplay seems fine, I think her VO doesn't match that lore at all anymore. And I would like her movement to feel more natural....
ThePikol4 votesWhat is wrong with Singed? Can you summarise his lore-gameplay problem for me?
Placentas11 votesIt's implied the mad scientist who worked on WW is Singed (maybe confirmed?)
So a tanky dude who basically runs around trolling people with poison doesn't really match his lore or anything. I dont think it's a huuuuge disconnect, but its kinda off.
Danjeng24 votesIn the old lore, Singed and WW were friends, but in new update, Singed is sick man who experimented on WW. Singed counters WW. WW chases after the blood trail of targets who are low. And guess what Singed's health bar usually is, and what not to do against Singed?
Also, his playstyle is very ridiculous. He proxy farms, he executes himself to deny his enemy gold, he double proxies in the enemy base, he buys three/four dark seals, he has a maniacal laugh which he spams...
I think no other champion would do a better job showing a mad scientist. He's absolutely crazy.
Placentas4 votesAye, very good points. You convinced me.
Krabohod2 votesIt's seems like you even underestimate Signed a bit. The man single-handedly created such monsters like Warwick and Jinx. And that's only two experiments that we know of, and i think he has done A LOT of experiments. The dude is evil genius in it's purest form.
Jerry SeinfeId3 votesJinx has nothing to do with singed tho... The only thing that might make you think that is WW's line that says "you were there". considering WW's biography she might be the little girl he keeps refering to. What his connection exactly is is for yourself to decide.
He's also not evil. What he does isn't morally accepted in our or even most of runeterra's society but in Zaun anyone is free to do this shit. He's just very passionate about the knowledge he seeks.
He's also created himself tho, a man both ravaged and sustained by his craft.
Krabohod3 votesIt's not the only thing. It has been theorized that Jinx is the way she is, cause she was one of the first Singed's "test-subjects". You can search for it, it's pretty interesting.
About yor second points: I agree with you. But if you are Singed's "test-subject" I'm sure you would see him as evil :) All in all, morality is subjective.
Jerry SeinfeId5 votesI searched jinx singed connection and found a few things that imo didn't make sense to me.
Jinx looks far too normal for a past test subject of singed. Singed does chemicals, not psychology. while Jinx's hair is most likely just coloured, her pale face and purple eyes are the effects of shimmer a drug used in zaun.
My personal headcanon is that WW killed her parents, rather brutally, before he was turned by singed. A young jinx witnessing this broke. Now why would he do this. He was a cutthroat according to singed. He had relations to Gangs in zaun. So there was this lil girl that WW saw and one that resembles jinx and loved tinkering. What if her parents had a hextech weaponry/tools shop. This would also explain her hextech gear. After this she had a mental breakdown and projected her normal side on fishbones which she created with her parents.
Personally i'd rather have it be a bit more tragic rather than Fucked up.
Blitzidious2 votesYes, Singed does chemicals. Some chemicals can cause pain. Pain can cause psychological trauma.
"Prepared subject for implantation. Tested a surgical technique I observed during the Ionian Campaign to reach the scapulae. Required several minutes of drilling through bone to attach the alchemical chamber and pumps that will deliver the transmutative formula. Subject wailed and pleaded. Insisted he was no longer a monster, but a good man. Ignored the distractions and threaded lengths of delicate hoses throughout his extremities, splicing them with his veins and arteries. The subject remained conscious and screaming for six hours. Very encouraging as he endured significantly longer than earlier failures. Finished by integrating the mechanical augmentations with the neurolous fibers of the spine. Minimal stitching required. Subject stable and recovering. I must rest and replenish before tomorrow’s procedure."
This is from "engineering the nightmare". Shit like this would definitely bring with it some mental issues.
Personally, I think Singed did experiment on her. As for how and why, I'm unsure. I don't doubt that I'm wrong, but I think it would be an interesting story. Having her connected to both Warwick and Singed in my mind has the potential for some entertaining and fucked up situations.
I love your headcanon, by the way. I think it's the most likely possibility for her connection with WW. Also, it doesn't rule out the possibility that she was experimented on. :p
Leetri10 votesIn lore he's a brilliant scientist who does dangerous and highly amoral experiments using alchemy and very often live, unwilling subjects, in-game he runs circles around everyone while farting gas, tossing people and laughing (or he's just proxy farming minions when that's viable).
Danjeng1 votesThe use of chemical warfare, questionable grounding substances, and involuntary displacements of his targets is quite immoral. He's a deranged mad chemist.
Chembaron Yamada3 votesSinged in game and Singed in lore are both insane. But there are different types of madness.
In gameplay, he is that crazy guy who is running around manically laughing and tossing people around. Immoral and insane? Yes.
But his lore is different. He isn't that "crazy laughter mad scientist". He is a psychopath. Lacking any form of empathy for his subjects, not caring for their feelings or any moral limits. Again, immoral and insane? Yes. But in a different way.
Krabohod1 votesI do not think he is psychopath. He is definetly doing some bad and black-moral stuff. But I don't think he can not feel emotions. I feel like he absolutely can. But he just do not care for his "victims". Yeah, the dude is that crazy and terrifying.
Danjeng1 votesIt would be nice to see a more human side to Singed. Now he's just a cartoon character who does crazy stuff because he can. But why? Does he have any friends, or any people he loves? What turned him to gain such an interest in alchemy?
Krabohod2 votesI think it's irrelivant to the story, and would greatly hurt his character. THe thing with this character is that it's very interesting and breathtaking to look at Singed not as at psychopath, but too look at him as at the wicked-minded scientist that could have remors, but he has no mercy or remorse. You look at Singed and at back of you head you have yjis idea that maybe he just a man, not a psychopath, that he could feel emotions and etc. but right now you're totally f'ed and nothing gonna save. Singed could be in-game realization of the same idea, that Butcher Urgot has in his splash. But Urgot is more of a monctrocity, and Singed is more of just a man.
Terozu2 votesHe uses the grab to save people in lore, and catch criminals so his Q is like the best lore part of his kit, the enemies are criminals. His run let's him do a lot. His E, VO, and Ult are the weird part.
Cowseed10 votesHe doesn't grab enough 
in his lore
Blakiepug5 votesLet's please not completely change a champion that is already fine to fit his lore that I'm pretty sure people who play Blitzcrank don't care about. Instead change his lore to fit his play style if players are really that concerned about it.
Recons4 votesChange Blitzcranks Abilities to:
Dynamo: Everytime Blitzcrank uses an ability, he gains his W move speed for the same amount of time, and he then gets slowed after wards, for the same amount of time as his W. Scales with level 6/11/16.
Rocket Grab: Unchanged.
New ability ~ Vital Yank! Using his left hand, Blitzcrank pulls an allied champion to himself, if the allied champion is under 25% of their health (increased by rank up to 50%) they also get shielded for X percent of blitzcrank's bonus health (or mana whatever)
Power Fist: Unchanged.
NEW! Static Field: REMOVED: Bolt passive. NEW- Blitzcrank detonates his Static Field, applying a 0.5 second silence to ALL CHAMPIONS in range. Additionally, the Static Field permeates the ground, slowing enemy champions by 30%-40%-50% (per rank) that diminishes rapidly over the duration, the field lasts for 2 seconds.
Arakadia3 votesThis is just a massive buff. Removing dumb things like his attack speed for super strong things like more utility.
Skins Project2 votesThis isn't thinking about "blitzcrank" as a champion. It's thinking about support blit.
We have AP,AD,TANK. All of which are viable to their own agree.
Also let me remind you that blitz was designed for top lane.
Ebonmaw Dragon3 votesNot really, the gameplay is not a problem, his VO is.
I mean, he is a support, and that fits with his lore.
MatthewRT23 votesNo....He isn't a support....Just go home...you know nothing about blitz...
on a side note he was released as a top laner that is why he had no supportive abilities but became popular in the support role because of his cc combo and the ability to hold someone (preferably the biggest threat) down for 3 seconds is huge.
Ebonmaw Dragon2 votesNo....He isn't a support....Just go home...you know nothing about blitz...
on a side note he was released as a top laner that is why he had no supportive abilities but became popular in the support role because of his cc combo and the ability to hold someone (preferably the biggest threat) down for 3 seconds is huge.
Well, as Ebonmaw, the Terror of Zaun, I can say that Zaun IS my home.
And since we are talking about a fellow Zaunite Champion, we can say that this thread is about a creature of my homeland, SO: IM IN HOME
Whatever, if people use him as support, it is a support of the people... AND THAT is what is important.
Lõyalty2 votes
is even worse
Lore: Bad-ass pirate lady who spends years planning the fall of gangplank and singehandely flips Bildgewater on its back and now is striving to be the uncrowned Queen of it.
Game: Big boobied girl walking around with her butt stuck out constantly shaking her hips while wearing skimpy clothing while also constantly throwing out sexual innuendos.
Baron Perenolde2 votesAs much as I wouldn't mind a VGU for Blitz, his current look and lines are so iconic. If he had a loving update like Urgot or Yi, which preserved the characters while expanding upon them, I'd be stoked. I just fear Riot would turn Blitz into something unrecognizable.
Jackom12 votesA rolling golem gives zero fucks
MonkeyMadness2 votesNot as bad as 
. Lore claims he's super aggressive, effortlessly skilled in combat, and serves to rally whichever side he chooses to victory. In reality, he's a slow clunky hybrid of a bunch of other champs that, despite the lore being almost entirely focused on his ability to "buff" his allies, has not a single ally buff skill.
Quackas2 votesSince when did people give a shiet about lore? Are you also mad he doesn't have a fleshing compatibility service in-game?
I swear to God-Hand if you take away my Dr.Who reference from my main I will lead a revolt on Riot headquarters!
Though if you want to update his kit that's fine, his Q is buggy as shit and it's his entire kit! I expect it to work flawlessly if 90% of his power is dedicated to it.
Not to mention his ult passive does more harm than good.
