Varus: As We Fall | League of Legends Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzNcSvKCOyA
Witness the incarnation of vengeance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzNcSvKCOyA
Witness the incarnation of vengeance.
Cool idea and execution. Wish you would have done it on a new champion though, instead of deleting one I liked from the lore for it. Doesn't seem like that was necessary at all.
Riot also "deleted" the Gangplank you knew, the Miss Fortune you knew, the Twisted Fate you knew, etc.
Maybe you might disagree, but Varus was not exactly a champion everyone loved because of his story - because his story was kind of straightforward and lazy. Much like what Miss Fortune had before her mini-redesign.
Riot also "deleted" the Gangplank you knew, the Miss Fortune you knew
But they didn't really. Old MF was a hot woman who was wronged by a pirate in her past and took up hunting them because of it and didnt have much lore past that. Old GP was a ruthless, bloodthirsty pirate without much lore past that. New MF and GP are, respectively, a hot woman hunting pirates and a ruthless bloodthirsty pirate. Their lore and background was EXPANDED upon, while leaving the type of character they were INTACT. That is an example of a GOOD lore update.
Old Varus was a stalwart Ionian guardian who turned to a dark power to avenge the family he lost because he chose duty and his vow over saving them. New Varus is an evil demon out for blood held back by two lovers who freed him in an attempt to save one of them from death.
Notice the difference? Not only did Varus become three different persons, NONE of them actually corresponds to the actual Varus. The Darkin wants vengeance, but is just a generic demon past that with no similarities to Varus. The two dudes tried to use the dark power for an end, but a wildly different one than Varus, and bear no resemblance to him past that.
The character that Varus used to be, the one you see ingame, doesn't exist anymore in the new lore. He was DELETED. This should not be done unless the character in question is a complete mess (like being a walking Arnie reference). Varus was far from that. Doing what they did, just ignoring the things that are already their and replacing them, is an incredibly lazy way to "update" old lore.
lame music and character assassination all rolled up into one? rito you done it again!
What are the examples of where they've done it before?
Excuse me im an ignorant lore enthusiast who wrongfully believe every update or reboot are objectively good changes.
just a hyperbole here man. Riot just tends to screw the pooch in some manor every time. They've changed a ton of lore since the summoners weren't a thing anymore and the new stuff feels a bit slapdash sometimes. Or in this case it feels like they just wanted a openly gay champ. Varus just didn't feel like he needed to change. Lots of people have said someone else would work better since tons of the champs have zero relationship lore. It'd be like changing rumble to being in love with teemo instead of tris, then making tris spend her time with poppy as her implied relationship. Sure it works fine w/e but why unnecessarily change what wasn't broken?
"Don't change what wasn't broken" Lord that's a bad argument, with that logic were you with the group apposed to the Swain VGU?
Honest to god I'm curious, because I shit you not their entire argument against his rework was fundamentally the same as what you've told me. Like be real, what isn't broken shouldn't be immune to recycling either.
Edit: Well this comment went from +5 to 1. That implies to me that 4 people think that just like Varus lore, Swain character doesn't need recycling.
Swain really needs a change, his model is so outdated they can't make new skins for him
Yea, no. To hell with this.
How about we retcon
as a straight man.
Oh wait that's right, that'd be a terrible idea.
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Yea, no. To hell with this. How about we retcon
as a straight man. Oh wait that's right, that'd be a terrible idea.
Taric has never been officially gay and I don't think he is. Maybe he is a parody of a gay man in the eyes of homophobes, but he's actually closer to Jhin without all of the sociopathy. It's sort of a soft homophobia to assume all great looking guys with product hair are gay.
As someone who hates the SJWs and their obsession with LGBT characters, your comments is outright dumb, man.
Varus is NOT gay - He was accidentally freed by two gay Ionian men who are now stuck inside his head.
Varus himself is a Darkin spirit inside a new body made of Ionian flesh... and magic.
I'm confused by those who see this as a radical reworking of Varus's lore. Yes, the change from a single "dude corrupted by badness" to "two dudes corrupted by Darkin badness and all sharing a body" is, in some ways, a huge alteration of the character's essence. But what was there previously has been kept - Ionian guardian who, in desperation, gives himself over to an ancient dark power to fight off/get revenge against Noxian invaders. The changes have taken nothing away, and added a TON of depth to the character, making him (or them) something pretty unique in the world of Runeterra, with a firm grounding in emotion and history. I think the execution of the comic and video was, by and large, very strong. I found the writing and art in the Act I comic, and the visual direction of the music video, quite compelling. A lot of work and care was put into developing this story, and while I totally understand people not loving every aspect of its execution and detail, I'm incredibly impressed with the overall effort taken to develop the game world and explore narrative dimensions. Keep that shit up, Rito.
Now imagine all that effort actually being put to good use in developing the already existing persona that is Varus. It could have been epic, and we would have loved it to bits.
See LiubenX post. Imagine a comic and video for original Varus.
Corruption by accident is vastly different. There isn't an a way to argue this. I can't even make up a comparable analogy. Valmar did nto know what he was doing and in the end he didn't lose anyone.
TON of depth? Tell me about newVarus? He wants to kill for revenge, he has 'family' from another story source. Is that depth for Varus? Tell me about Valmar and Kai? First, we are playing varus and second they have very little if any control. But who are they, why are they in love, why is Valmar still angry?
The music video was great. Nothing I can say against it. The comic was confusing for me. The two characters are hard to distinguish, they say a bunch of useless words (which make the important details get lost), the important details are never brought back into focus. Most importantly, it felt rushed when I read it the first time, I know nothing about Val or Kai, and I am confused on who is who.
SUCH good music, I hope we can get it sometime.
The video was also well done.
Narrative nailed this new emotional struggle and conflict triangle perfectly. Since I never really cared for Varus until today, this peaked my interest and ended up being quite the satisfying reboot.
Jesus I hate this community. You're all so negative about everything that Riot Changes or Updates, speaking of which I don't see why you care about the Varus changes when I can guarantee that 90% don't even play him.
I bet 90% of the upvoters haven't even read his old lore!
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I bet 90% of the upvoters haven't even read his old lore!
I have just to let you know, since I been playing him since season 5.
Phah, tell that to the guys who like me have been playing him and picked him up since season 2. The people who upvote this shit don't care about the original champion and i am pretty sure most don't even play him or know his old lore, because they keep saying how the new narrative added depth, which is complete BS. Old lore had much more depth of character but you have to have read the whole thing carefully and not just skimmed it and said "Oh it's a clichee". It's an universal motive since ancient times, don't confuse that with a clichee.
You have to have a very high IQ to understand the intricate complexity of Varus' old lore. If you look closely, the pool is a metaphor for Dostoevsky's "Crime and Punishment". But most plebian newbies won't even bother really diving into what used to be the greatest literary construction that was the Lore of Varus.

They've done the same with Miss Fortune's lore rehash - which COMPLETELY ruined the character for me. In fact, I used one of my ancient refund tokens to sell MF and don't plan on buying her ever again - not until they make her lore what it previously was.
Good thing I never bought Twisted Fate, too. His lore was 3rd best imo, but Riot is disgusted by truly passionate writing it seems.
Such good champions, all ruined by the greedy paws of those creepy elderly people in Riot.Co.
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Incredible! I hope to see more lore stories come to life with animation like this! Gave me chills.
I loved it, the video sandwiched between the comics was a nice surprise. Love watching all of these homophobes have a meltdown. Anyways Varus himself isn't even human, let alone gay. The story is more complex than they seem to be able to wrap their one braincell around.
It's amazing the homophobes who refuse to acknowledge the artistic value, detail, and overall depth of this new story-line and simply write it off as "Guess they wanted an openly gay Champion". To the poster below who talks of unnecessarily updating an old champ as opposed to introducing a new champion, look at the re-work list.... Was Varus on there? No his name has been floated constantly among the ADC's who are getting a rework, this new lore update is actually quite the contrary to your "slapdash" comment; in which traditionally they release full visual and game mechanic updates then once everyone gets excited, oh yea we changed the lore too... This is quite the opposite and actually builds the hype and opens the door for all the possible ability reworks.
Finally, you keep focusing on the "Gay champion" thing instead of introducing a new champion, when in reality they opened the door for two new possible champions. The "Darkin" we all know Kayn is one, as is Aatrox, now we have confirmation that Varus is one; which means we have the possibility of two new characters to join this unique race of characters.
It's laughable that you try to circumvent your obvious homophobic opinions by masking it with "if it's not broke don't fix it" and attacking Rito for "screwing the pooch again" but fail to look behind all of the "gay context" and see the lore for what it is, a deepening story that adds value, and hopefully after a re-work, abilities and look that match said story. Yes they could have easily "made it a woman" but would that have made the story any better? This was a bond shared between two warriors, and just being statistically realistic, in all of the splash art, graphic novels, videos, etc that Rito have produced how many females have you seen in the masses of "Background soldiers" during fighting scenes?
Noone said bad things about the quality of the visuals, it's stunning animation. It is however also a stunning feat - erasing a persona and actualy managing to subtract depth of character and a whole moral dilemma in what was supposed to be an update of the lore. The old lore had 100 times less resources poured into it and yet was deeper than the sparkly new artwork that has been created to blind masses from the ruthless murder of an old and loved champion.
I remember not being very impressed with Varus' lore way back when he was released. Pretty average edgy back-story.
Did Miss Fortune fans get this salty when her lore was revamped? I guess we all just disagree on what "good" is, and that's fine . -. The majority seems to either not care or be fine with this rewrite.
Technically Varus isn't gay.
And as a %%%got, I'm not really interested in the gay relationship lore. It's just a "thing that exists" now, and people usually don't care. The homophobia isn't very relevant nor is it prevalent
I agree with the fact that Varus isn't gay, he happens to have two gays inside him, but to say that homophobia isn't relevant... I mean, people are getting so worked up over this new rework when I think usually nobody cares. It is, at least for a part of these people, true that many homophobes are getting mad cause there was a "gay representation" and many can't really understand the fact that it's not even Varus himself that is gay, but Val and Kai. Saying homophobia isn't relevant it's a bit exaggerating, homophobia is something still very real, for my part: I expected this backlash the moment I saw the new cinematic and comic.
These people aren't even getting what it means for a Darkin to construct himself a body made of human flesh, I mean...
Dear Riot, If you haven't noticed already boards are not happy with this, not in the slightest. What i see your employees bringing up seems to be a constant theme of - but look at the quality of the video and the comics. Let me ask you this - do you judge a bestselling novel on the quality of the Coverart or the quality of the story ? I think you get my point.
Technically both.
I don't see how this lore is worse than the lore Varus had previously, bad maybe we just disagree on that. To me it's more interesting to see a Darkin creating a body for himself but having two dudes in his head trying to seize control, plus the whole vengeance plot is still there.
The salt is strong xD
What incarnation of vengeance? All I see is a genocidal monster released by two idiots who happen to be gay.