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Lore-wise power levels, my list

HayRoss·12/16/2015, 4:39:08 AM·7 votes·2,062 views

About a month ago, there was a thread with this big list of power levels (Lore wise) of different champions. And I thought that (Personally) there should be a few changes. So I made my own list. Give me your thoughts, please

PSA: I want to state 2 things before we begin -This is my opinion -I will change things if needed, and this list IS NOT FINAL

Now, let's begin

TIER S Near god-like power, capable of destroying near anything, fearing nothing, and being feared by all (Unsealed) TIER A Ancient power, capable of destroying large countries. Mountains crumble and oceans split in their wake (Sealed) TIER B Capable of flattening large, sturdy buildings with ease (Angry mode) TIER C Possesses powerful magic or superhuman abilities, capable of possibly defending themselves against a small army TIER D Highly experienced fighters, some of the most skilled combatants in Valoran. Capable of fighting off dozens of skilled fighters, maybe 100. (Yordle form) TIER F Unskilled combatants, capable of defending themselves, but not much else

TIER G A fat drunk claiming to be a champion

WEAPON TIER Champions that (Usually) have little combat experience and their power comes from an artifact or something of the sort. Their powers vary Your thoughts on this?

NOTICE:

The following Champions are either subject to move or are having difficulty finding a solid place in where they stay. Please read my comments below to understand why I placed them where they are (Ctrl+F)

Please do not get angry because you disagree with me, I'm not entirely happy with where they sit either. They are VERY likely to get moved

52 Comments

Blitzidious12/16/2015, 7:31:21 PM2 votes

should be in C. After all, Rakkoran warriors prefer fights against Demacian and Noxian soldiers, only when outnumbered ten to one. In Pantheons case, as he is essentially top of the line in Rakkor, he would more than likely be taking on more. Additionally, Singed should be in F, as he really isn't a combatant. He's an extremely intelligent and twisted individual, who developed war machines capable of taking out a civilization, but in direct combat, it's doubtful he'd be able to do much.

insaiyanbacca12/16/2015, 4:42:36 AM2 votes

you forgot the most powerful tier tier D Draven

frigginmurlocs12/16/2015, 6:03:12 AM1 votes

ok Rammus

GreenLore12/16/2015, 8:50:45 PM1 votes

Why is Nasus so high on the list? We have barely any indication about what he is capable of,but we know that Nasus&Renekton together weren't able to subdue Xerath,so I don't see why Nasus would be abvoe Xerath.

Also I dunno why Skarner and Zilean would be that powerful...

Moonboy6512/16/2015, 11:03:19 PM1 votes

where's Ahri ?

Moonboy6512/16/2015, 11:11:55 PM1 votes

also Teemo should be in Tier S

lightdragoon8812/16/2015, 11:37:13 PM1 votes

Shouldn't Xerath be in Tier S? Your text for that stats that S is"Near god-like power, capable of destroying near anything, fearing nothing, and being feared by all"

Xerath is God-Like not only power wise but can't be killed. He can destroy near anything (when unsealed), he does not fear anything at all, even being sealed for thousands of years and having Nasus and Azir going after him right now and he like "Don't care" and feared by all....ok we never see anyone else interact with Xerath aside from Nasus Renekton Azir but I'm sure many would fear him.

The Whamboozler12/16/2015, 11:54:17 PM1 votes

is an ancient elemental being of fire that is often put on par as a destroyer of worlds. He's often compared to and listed as a rival to Anivia... who you put very high. Given that Brand is also implied to be both immortal and unlike anivia he can possess different bodies I fail to see why he's only a C.

It all really depends on what we're judging "power" as. Bard is a spirit. He flies around and does... things. He doesn't fight. It's hard to gauge him against Kindred, who is literally the dual-bodied embodiment of death. And why is Nasus higher on the list than ALL The other ascended? His power (in is new, shitty lore, at least) is due to being ascended JUST like Xerath, Renekton and Azir. If it's an age thing, Renek should be his equal. If it's a power thing, Xerath IS power held together by force of will. If it's for in-game reasons (aka the infinite potential of his Q) then you're not grading on in-game power and your whole list falls apart.

Braum is a legendary hero of folklore. The sort of guy who does utterly absurd things like punch through mountains and ride thunderstorms. Just sayin.

Alistar has no supernatural powers. His "heal" is even in-game regarded as him getting pumped up to fight or from a victory, and his ult making him unkillable is because he's a stubborn bull with too much willpower to go down. He has NO magical powers at all.

Kog'maw and Annie are essentially children. Not really skilled in fighting... yet you rated them higher than "mundane" characters like Kennen who had gone through extensive training to use lightning magic... and higher than Evelyn who is a poorly understood SUPERNATURAL being from the Shadow Isles that seems to survive off of the lives and energy of others.

I... don't actually think Elise can flatten a building. Nothing she does implies great strength at all. Her poisons might be the most potent thing EVER (since then nerfed Cass's anyway. #revertCassrework ) but poisons won't level a building. Also why is leveling a building more impressive and higher tier than "I can beat an ARMY". That building isn't even fighting back! And why is Tryndamere in this catagory, but NAUTILUS isn't... when in riot's videos he's a massive juggernaut that flattens half of nature by walking through it? You put Malphite up here and he's basically the same thing... a massive beast of a creature.

In fact, the whole buildings catagory is odd to me. Shaco? Flatten buildings? I mean... in lore he can appear places like the boogeyman to stab or scare you to death. He might be an evil spirit of sadism or cruel glee. But... he's not a wrecking ball and nothing in his lore suggests he explodes or anything to cause mass-scale property destruction.

I think your list is interesting but I don't really agree with a lot of it... mostly based on how odd your catagories are and how you seem to pick based on in-game excuses for some champs (Trynd is a godlike wrecker of entire fortresses because trynd backdoors towers well. lol) but ignore in-game power for others. Ashe can fight off hundreds of foes because... she's a good shot, but CAITLYN... who's entire schtick is being a sniper and thus probably a BETTER shot... is weaker? Hell, you put twitch here too and in Twitch's lore story he disposes of a few dozen men. From ambush, yeah... and most weren't fighters... but still. In Sona's lore she is... a VERY talented musician with a magical ethwal. No fighting skill mentioned and at best it's her "weapon" doing everything... but you put her as able to fight off dozens of warriors.

I DO like the Gragas joke at the end though. xD

PDE5 Inhibitors12/17/2015, 12:00:05 AM1 votes

No Fiddlesticks ?

Moonboy6512/17/2015, 12:55:13 AM1 votes

Akali - Tier D Cassiopeia - Tier C Diana - Tier C or D DrMundo - maybe Tier C Irelia - Tier D Nami - probably Tier C

I would probably change Olaf to Tier D, not C

Wideman12/31/2015, 5:48:28 AM1 votes

Hey, I'm not extremely educated on all things lore so don't quote me on any of this... You seem pretty inconsistent on the whole artifact/weapon catagory, would Lucian not be part of this? Aswell, does that whole catagory even belong in this list, in the lore they have these "artifacts", is this not a measure of their in lore power? But onto more sold stuff, I totally understand the nautilus in the scuba suit argument, and agree with it, somewhat. I would consider the cinematics part of the lore, I don't know how anyone else feels on that so idk if it's true, if so, riot has directly shown he is quiet large, compared to a human. Remember valoran is an extremely advanced world, in some ways, nautilus could be wearing, essentially, a single person submerene, simailer to the deep sea suits we have today, just larger, closer to marvels 'hulkbuster suit'. Also, on the 2014 Halloween lore tidbit, it had nautilus nearly singlehandedly defend blidgewatee from the legions of undead, possibly including karthus, thresh, mord, hecarim, kalista(not in game yet so who knows), and others. I would say he is closer too tier B. Next on my list is rammus, not gonna lie rammus is probs my favourite champion, I love the idea of him. Trying to stay unbiased, I would drop him to tier F, it pains me to say, but how the heck could he even take on a dozen or 2 armed guys? All he has is spiky armour! The guys would have to try to get stabbed to die! Anyway, I really enjoyed this list, my don't want my contradictory opinions to be taken as an attack on you, just friendly debate.

The Deckowner1/1/2016, 5:43:48 AM1 votes

in gragas's lore he destroyed ashe's fellow on his own, no one was able to take him down in ashe's clan. he should be very strong.

ziggs should also be put into weapon champion since all he does is throw bombs.

nautilus and malphite(maybe even maokai,not entirely sure about him) in lore wise are gigantic creatures that can destroy landscapes. with nautilusbeing the size of a huge rock(cinematic and lore) and malphite being the size of a mountain.

gangplank can also be called a weapon champ, with most his dmg coming out from barrels, gun and cannon fire from his ship. i think actually most adc using a gun or scientific projectile weapon should be count as a weapon champ.(ie jinx)

lissandra should be the same level as anivia, lore wise.

The Deckowner1/1/2016, 6:02:02 AM1 votes

and where is our beloved, most powerful being of the world: teemo-the satan?

The Deckowner1/1/2016, 6:38:08 AM1 votes

His parents had thought that he would outgrow his boundless energy, but as he matured his energy found no limits and was matched only by his unnerving speed.

above is from kennen's lore. so he has infinite lighting enegy which is borned with him, and he learned how to control it from the ninja trainings. he should be at least annie level if not higher

KKxSavage1/17/2016, 8:06:31 AM1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

RogueWill1/17/2016, 8:13:15 AM1 votes

why is syndra below sealed xerath? lore wise syndra is on par with sealed xerath.

Why is liss also so high? on power she is comparable to ashe and sejuani and that's the whole reason she hasn't been defeated them already, either she is way too high or the other 2 are way too below

Ebonmaw Dragon12/16/2015, 4:44:07 AM1 votes

i guess that Veigar is in the V tier