Dear Riot

HayRoss·Jan 22, 2016·126 votes·5,941 views

I get that you want the proper threads in their proper place, but let's take this analogy for an example: Let's say that you have to place the proper shapes in the proper bins: http://s11.postimg.org/kgn1hfh5v/Bins_1.png

Now, somebody decides to put a triangle in the square bin: http://s2.postimg.org/ao6qz9rux/Bins_2.png

No big deal, what should be done is that you pick up the triangle, and you simply place it in the triangle bin: http://s13.postimg.org/r1tlp22rb/Bins_3.png

But instead, you do this: http://s12.postimg.org/3kgnh3a0d/Bins_4.png

Please stop deleting threads and just simply move them instead. Why do you do this? I am asking you, Riot Games, right now, why do you do this?

50 Comments

StevieSenpaiJan 22, 201635 votes

It's the job of the board mod to move, delete or lock a thread, though I feel the printer at Riot HQ only printed out "Delete" when given people job orders.

Ayame IsakiJan 22, 201610 votes

Riot is a front for the cybermen!

linkmastr001Jan 22, 201631 votes

They put it in the trash so the person who put it in the wrong bin learns to put it where it goes.

If they just moved it for you, you'd never get it and just be like "oh, they'll move it for me if I'm mistaken," whereas what they do makes you really think about where it should go.

Silver FluffenbuJan 23, 201631 votes

I'm positive they don't put that much thought into it.

Monkey D LuffyJan 23, 20162 votes

no the feature is broken

Penta PenguinJan 23, 20163 votes

Reds have actually said the Board is broken and they don't have the tech to move threads, but you're a tool so whatever. And when threads are deleted they send you a message anyway, of course you'd also get the same kind of message if a thread was moved.

KaisadiIIaJan 23, 20162 votes

I think it's more plausible they just never cared/thought about that.

T RexHasTinyArmsJan 24, 20161 votes

Usually I just copy paste it, put it in the one they told me to and think that they should have better paid staff bc I thought the post was ambiguous and they just chose one option and didn't think about if it could have multiple legitimate places it belongs in. (I.E. A change to a kit that influenced story or theme, but also changed balance due to shifting an actual skill to match story and art stuff)

IsmokeOreganoJan 22, 201614 votes

upvoting for the fantastic art work

yay nibbersJan 22, 201614 votes

IIRC, I think there's some technical reason they can't/don't move it. Which is weird because every other forum on the planet can do it.

ralseiJan 22, 20164 votes

This. They haven't had the tech to move threads yet. Maybe it's in the works, maybe not, but for now, into the trash bin.

NegusInParisJan 23, 20162 votes

I did not think that moving a simple thread would require much from a company that created the most successful game yet

Velzard of KozJan 23, 20162 votes

They maybe use way too much frameworks/engines/open-sources :D If they simply didn't understand the code of the boards it wouldn't surprise me.

PersianShinobiJan 23, 20162 votes

sry need 2 stop toxicity cnt waste time using a modern forum framework

JonxxJan 23, 20164 votes

"The technology is not yet there"

Sir YamazukiJan 24, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=sacred wolf,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=0hAnAMNJ,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-01-22T23:46:45.032+0000)

This. They haven't had the tech to move threads yet. Maybe it's in the works, maybe not, but for now, into the trash bin.

They can move threads, I've had one of mine moved a long time ago.

XonraJan 23, 20163 votes

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IIRC, I think there's some technical reason they can't/don't move it. Which is weird because every other forum on the planet can do it.

Yup.

They technically can't be bothered to do it.

NahuiJan 22, 201610 votes

I assume it's for two reasons. Perhaps this template doesn't allow for easily moving across different bins. However, the main reason is to promote responsibility. If they simply moved misplaced threads, people would become careless and just post everywhere knowing it would be moved by someone else.

JariJan 22, 20161 votes

Riot claimed that the system that lets them move them is bugged out.

XonraJan 23, 20162 votes

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Riot claimed that the system that lets them move them is bugged out.

I guess it doesn't help that they put very little effort into fixing the boards. I mean there was a bug that would randomly take you to other areas of the boards regardless of what you clicked to go to, (even "hidden" areas) and it took them about 6-7 months to fix it.

XonraJan 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Captain Rand0,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=0hAnAMNJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-22T17:29:05.633+0000)

I assume it's for two reasons. Perhaps this template doesn't allow for easily moving across different bins. However, the main reason is to promote responsibility. If they simply moved misplaced threads, people would become careless and just post everywhere knowing it would be moved by someone else.

Sometimes people genuinely think they are posting in the correct area, and instead of it being moved to say, from gameplay to bugs or something like that, they just delete it anyways. This isn't cases where memes are posted in gameplay, because that is a bit different.

I've seen a red post say before they have the ability to move, but they didn't say why they didn't, it was just said they have the capability to do so. Which means they just choose not to because it is probably easier to delete it and make the person repost.

Penta PenguinJan 23, 20162 votes

This doesn't happen anywhere with real forum tech. Other forums move threads, they are not chaos zones, everyone is better off for it.

Arcade AndrewJan 22, 20168 votes

Because the mods love abusing power: evidence? I got permabanned from the forums for an Image that contained the word "n-word" (In a positive context) ONE person reported me and a mod perm banned me,

I went into support tickets and basically said "How come I can't post this if others can post this?" And added the "aww shit n-word" meme and I Got unbanned :^)

Shield VillainJan 22, 20164 votes

http://i.imgur.com/cB1izJH.png

DeynaTaggerungJan 23, 20164 votes

They've been asked this before and their reply was that for some reason there is no option available for mods to move threads. Why isn't there, and why hasn't that been fixed?? good question, I guess they don't see it as a big enough problem to devote development time towards.

Savage DeviJan 22, 20163 votes

Do we want to waste forum moderators' time because boards users go "eh fuck it, they'll just move my thread so I'll post my unrelated shit on community creations because it's the closest option to my cursor anyways"?

No, we need to tell people to simply post in the correct boards instead of just letting them waste people's time with no fucks given.

JariJan 22, 20161 votes

And it's much faster to just delete the post completely and type to them, letting them know it was in the wrong place and therefor has been 100% removed?

Savage DeviJan 22, 20164 votes

Those are automatic template messages, so yes.

Z StatisticJan 22, 20161 votes

That's why, in every other forum on the planet, you can be banned for repeatedly posting to the wrong forum.

JariJan 22, 20161 votes

If you constantly post on the wrong forums, you generally get banned by them for not listening.

XonraJan 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Savage Devi,realm=EUNE,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=0hAnAMNJ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-01-22T17:43:15.587+0000)

Do we want to waste forum moderators' time because boards users go "eh fuck it, they'll just move my thread so I'll post my unrelated shit on community creations because it's the closest option to my cursor anyways"?

No, we need to tell people to simply post in the correct boards instead of just letting them waste people's time with no fucks given.

It isn't as if they do anything else most of the time. They sure aren't deleting pointless posts because they are all over the place (days after they are pointless or downvoted into oblivion sometimes).

What time are we wasting I have to ask.

VerxintJan 22, 20163 votes

It's kind of sad, but their move thread function is literally broken and doesn't work.

Billion dollar company.

qetzelJan 23, 20163 votes

Alternatively, consider the case where there are hundreds of shapes being dropped into the wrong boxes. And these boxes are all some distance away from each other.

You save a lot more time just throwing the shapes out. You need fewer people on box clean-up duty. Also, while you are moving one shape, others are growing. If you move a big shape that is in the wrong box, people could get upset.

Bloodhawk95Jan 23, 20162 votes

I can't tell you how many times ive had my posts deleted by riot because i put it in the wrong area. It takes the same time (i assume) to put a post in the correct area versus just deleting it

XonraJan 23, 20161 votes

The mods on these boards are some of the worst I've seen to be honest (just sayin mods, you are). I mean I saw better mods on the old MSN groups back in the day. Just the other day I had a post deleted because I quoted someone that said "butt head", not asshole.

They just seem to auto delete most posts that are reported, which makes me nervous if more people find out and just abuse that when someone disagrees with them (I've seen posts deleted that I didn't think had anything bad in them, so not the first time).

They are also a tooooouuuuch lazy. They can move the threads, I've seen red posts comment on that before, but they just choose not to. I imagine the mods get paid likely nothing to do this, so they don't care much. If they get paid to do this, then where do I apply for this job?

LOL SpammerJan 23, 20161 votes

This is why the forum is still called beta.

MeesterMooJan 23, 20161 votes

I thought his was going to be about champs that are op all of a sudden that Riot doesn't want to

Monkey D LuffyJan 23, 20161 votes

The feature is broken they said...

future is hereJan 23, 20161 votes

{quoted}

I get that you want the proper threads in their proper place, but let's take this analogy for an example: Let's say that you have to place the proper shapes in the proper bins: http://s11.postimg.org/kgn1hfh5v/Bins_1.png

Now, somebody decides to put a triangle in the square bin: http://s2.postimg.org/ao6qz9rux/Bins_2.png

No big deal, what should be done is that you pick up the triangle, and you simply place it in the triangle bin: http://s13.postimg.org/r1tlp22rb/Bins_3.png

But instead, you do this: http://s12.postimg.org/3kgnh3a0d/Bins_4.png

Please stop deleting threads and just simply move them instead. Why do you do this? I am asking you, Riot Games, right now, why do you do this?

Great post. I get really tired explaining to the emmisaries in the EUW-Spanish forum they must ask riot to create the tools for moving threads between sections. I hope finally Riot listen the feedback and create/activate the tools to solve it.

These "Boards" are not a Forum if moderators can not do so simple task as moving threads or merging it.

OwntrolfJan 23, 20161 votes

old boards were better

OwntrolfJan 23, 20161 votes

can everyone spam the boards so they can bring back the old ones

DoYouHaveDiscordJan 23, 20161 votes

Lol true brother. I feel your pain

AL000Jan 24, 20161 votes

hmmm... i wonder riot staffs can understand this pictures?

lord4571Jan 24, 20161 votes

they could just give us an option report or move so they can see what needs to be done with the thread

lord4571Jan 24, 20161 votes

problem with the idea of moving threads is that once one person does it more people will if they delete ur thread ur less likely to make the mistake again or not post anything anymore at all depending on your exp with the boards.

thats what i think at least so its just easy to say delete

Markus KruberJan 24, 20161 votes

That doesn't seem to be true on other forums I've been on...

lord4571Jan 24, 20161 votes

this isnt those forums also if we want to talk about a thread in the wrong place this really should go into the boards feedback since the boards are in beta as seen above. since they are in beta that means they are not perfect no were near so complain about it putting threads in the wrong place on a board that is in beta doesnt seem super effective does it?

MelledoneusJan 24, 20161 votes

Upvoted for stunning HD visuals. What program did you use, and what kind of shading is that?

future is hereJan 28, 20161 votes

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Reds have actually said the Board is broken and they don't have the tech to move threads, but you're a tool so whatever. And when threads are deleted they send you a message anyway, of course you'd also get the same kind of message if a thread was moved.

I hope someone reading this can translate it from spanish (I'm tired now, and also my english is medium/not enough good): I have some answers about it, as I quoted this great explanation in my local forum, and conclusion is: the tool exists, but when boards were created Riot decision was never again use it. So at that point the tool was disabled.

http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/es/c/sugerencias-del-foro-es/ugg4UKIy-querido-riot-sugerencia-traida-del-foro-na-buenausima

{quoted}

Please stop deleting threads and just simply move them instead. Why do you do this? I am asking you, Riot Games, right now, why do you do this?

Not an answer from Riot NA, but an answer from Riot anyway. If you are not good in spanish, i hope google translator can help you enough:

http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/es/c/sugerencias-del-foro-es/ugg4UKIy-querido-riot-sugerencia-traida-del-foro-na-buenausima?show=flat&comment=0008

Riot thinks is better never moving threats. Of course i don't agree. Sometimes deleting is not a good solution. Riot is not agreed..