Oh look! Star Guardian Skins. What? Janna is portrayed as…

rtbf225618241 · 2016-09-19T21:36:44.312Z

sigh No. They oversexualized her. Again. A story to make her the most decent member of the team but what does it matter if she looks like a cheap whore in-game and nothing like Janna on the splash art? Riot, you keep changing her face every time! The Classic one is bad enough but this is a completely new kind of a face..beautiful but not her anymore. I just wish they reverted that damn splash rework. I don't know who made up that 40 year old elf but they should be fired as that feels like a personal insult to me. Regardless, i'm very disappointed. The skin itself looks predictable in-game. Only the Splash looks high quality despite not being her at all. I feel like she was given a new skin without actually caring about her theme. "Whatever, just put something on her that is Support-y and that'll do." She's supposted to be a leader. A Guardian indeed but not someone who is known for her /joke. I mean her background is literally about having magical wind powers from an unknown source and growing up using her wits to survive. She doesn't have a role in the lore even because she's not a poster-character and doesn't have anything flashy in her kit. Waited 3 years (Fnatic doesn't count) for a skin and this happens. Yeah, i'll stay with Forecast cuz it actually has clothes on that don't make her look like a floating sex joke. I expected this and i'm still angry. This is only my opinion as a near-pure Janna main. I'm just disappointed as hell that she was chosen for this crap.

MavenSongSep 19, 201611 votes

All of them have skirts. That point is irrelevant. Janna is also very likely the eldest of those 3 human and will be more developed.
Not true. Anything that hinged on the IoW and the League was retconned. everything else for the time being is still canon until updated.
Her face imo looks the same just a little younger, which makes sense given the skin line.

rtbf225618241Sep 19, 20161 votes

Ofcourse all of them have skirts, only hers make it look sexy and i gave you the reasons why.

More developed? Those are the biggest boobs in all of League!

You do realize that shit never happened in the new lore anyway, right? It's still old lore, i doubt some old balding man would hook up with Janna and...one other girl from League i don't remember.

Her face looks older and more similar to Ahri + Lux. There's almost no resemblance to her actual face, let alone her current Classic.

MavenSongSep 19, 20168 votes

Ofcourse all of them have skirts, only hers make it look sexy and i gave you the reasons why.

thats opinionated on personal preferences

More developed? Those are the biggest boobs in all of League!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Dzt9Y_qgEzg/U9mnfcCcMwI/AAAAAAAAU64/ANo1_Uv5M8s/s1600/MissFortune_Splash_7.jpg

Miss Fortune would like to have a word with you

You do realize that shit never happened in the new lore anyway, right? It's still old lore, i doubt some old balding man would hook up with Janna and...one other girl from League i don't remember.

That stuff was with the IoW... tho i suppose i didnt include the JoJ in the list but regardless, that was in fact retcon, but her upbringing in the streets of Zaun then going to Piltover is still very much canon.

Her face looks older and more similar to Ahri + Lux. There's almost no resemblance to her actual face, let alone her current Classic.

I looked at it side by side and i thought it looked close. Granted im not the best at telling faces. Also you have to keep in mind that these are different artists, they wont be exactly the same.

rtbf225618241Sep 19, 20161 votes

Opinionated ofcourse it's opinionated. i put it in the end of my post, why do you even bring that up? Doesn't mean i can't argue over it's validity.

As for the boobs...eh. I actually think Janna's are slightly bigger. I compared those and MF's are very slightly smaller (This feels weird to discuss on the Boards btw).

I think Journals of Justice died out before the IoW so that's in no way canon anymore. Regardless, i hope they won't do that again.

Yes i know they're different artists but..that doesn't mean i can't be disappointed now does it? They look close from the sides but in the previous Classic, her face is not that pushed together with eyes that big or that...cat-like. Like Ahri has..

MavenSongSep 19, 20165 votes

As for the boobs...eh. I actually think Janna's are slightly bigger. I compared those and MF's are very slightly smaller (This feels weird to discuss on the Boards btw).

Agree to disagree there im afraid. Also ive seen plenty of topics like this before, im not phased xD

I think Journals of Justice died out before the IoW so that's in no way canon anymore. Regardless, i hope they won't do that again.

Yah, i pretty much said that, JoJ isnt a thing but her past still is :p

Yes i know they're different artists but..that doesn't mean i can't be disappointed now does it? They look close from the sides but in the previous Classic, her face is not that pushed together with eyes that big or that...cat-like. Like Ahri has..

Previous classic key words... Im not gunna bring up her change in splashes, i wasnt around then, but if it captures her current splash then wouldnt it be right?

rtbf225618241Sep 19, 20161 votes

Her past past the current lore doesn't really exist anymore until they get to her after the next batch of champions. That goes for everyone i believe.

Well i think it doesn't capture her Current splash at all because look at her face. She looks like an elf in her 40s. There's no resemblance.

MavenSongSep 19, 20165 votes

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Her face imo looks the same just a little younger, which makes sense given the skin line.

SharjoSep 19, 201621 votes

Yea the massive bust and the mini-skirt revealing her legs plus the things that go on legs are not whore-ish at all.

Honestly the fact that you'd insinuate that big boobs = whore just screams to me that this conversation is pointless. Like holy shit that's fucking horrible to say. It sounds like you have such ridiculous standards for beauty that you're willing to coldly dismiss anything that isn't exactly towards your tastes. Whether or not that's your meaning or not that's how you come off and it puts a really sour taste in my mouth just reading it.

Honestly I think you need to take a step back and reevaluate your own standpoint on things you find visually appealing, because looking at Star Guardian Janna and insinuating that she looks like a whore/sex doll doesn't exactly foster hope for your perceptions of beauty. Fair enough people have their tastes, but there's a difference between that and what you've talking about.

rtbf225618241Sep 19, 20161 votes

Maybe because Janna has always been portrayed in an oversexualized as hell way? I mean that /joke + almost no clothing at all is mainly why and i'm sick as fuck of it. Now this crap skin which looks like a chinese sex-doll in-game ofcourse. Those boobs are unnatural as hell, her face is fucking out of character and as someone who actually cares about the champion's dignity, i think i have the right to say Riot just made the skin for her out of lazyness for actual thoughts cuz they barely care about her.

Beauty? You're questioning my perception of beauty? I'm saying she looks nothing like Janna and look basically like a whore. There's no "beauty" question here. That girl looks beautiful as hell but that is not Janna. I refuse to believe that and it's partially a reason why i only use the Forecast skin cuz it's painful to look at what they did to her Classic splash aswell.

HexaDecimelSep 23, 20164 votes

Wow you have an extremely harsh view of women. Are you saying that if I wear pink i am automatically a chinese sex-doll?? If I choose to dress a certain way it doesn't mean I am a whore, maybe I am just proud of my body and want to show off a little. And what the hell is wrong with having a large bust. I mean just because I am really big for my small frame doesn't automatically mean I am an unrealistic whore.

And isn't the purpose of a skin to give players different options when playing a champion they like. Options that would include making the champion look different from other versions. Do they really all have to look the same??

rtbf225618241Sep 23, 20161 votes

Why does everyone think i'm generalizing women? I'm talking about Janna specifically, none of you know who i am or how i think on a deep mental level so stop trying to inscribe your deranged behaviour onto me as if you tailor my thoughts and actions with your empty claims. I'm going to say this once:Trying to perceive me has never worked for anyone. So you're out of luck on this one.

SHE looks like a chinese sex doll. Lotus Irelia does not because it actually fits her and her theme pretty damn well.

You say "Proud of your body" like that's an excuse for indecent, out of character, lazy, inaccurate depiction. You could draw her naked if you wanted, it doesn't make her the person she's depicted as, if Riot says "She's actually very strict and modest in the way of fashion." because it's their game.

When did i say they have to look all the same? I said make a skin decent and representative to her personality not this schoolslut outfit-ish shit that further emphasized how the community sees her - A /joke spamming whore.

HexaDecimelSep 23, 20163 votes

It is just your opinion that she looks like a Chinese sex doll, and so far it doesn't look like many people agree with you.

The purpose of skins is to show different personalities, fantasies, and realities for characters that we enjoy. If you don't personally like the skin you are free to pick another or use the base model.

Your definition of indecent is not the same as mine, and just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean anything. Stop being such a big baby about it, lol.

rtbf225618241Sep 23, 20161 votes

Learn to stay on a single thread.

I've addressed all of your empty points, you're all just repeating yourselves without anything i haven't run into the ground already with actual logic.

It is just your opinion that she looks like a Chinese sex doll, and so far it doesn't look like many people agree with you.

The majority doesn't mean they're right. Just cuz you don't value her body doesn't mean she's allowed to be depicted as a whore.

"It's just your opinion" i think you didn't read the end of my post.

The purpose of skins is to show different personalities, fantasies, and realities for characters that we enjoy. If you don't personally like the skin you are free to pick another or use the base model.

This shit doesn't address anything. I'm free to complain about whatever i want.

Your definition of indecent is not the same as mine, and just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean anything. Stop being such a big baby about it, lol.

I think that's pretty obvious seeing as you're a primate compared to me. Stop being one and maybe grow up.

HexaDecimelSep 23, 20163 votes

I am a strong and independent woman and I can go to any thread I want XD

The original post is pretty devoid of any logic, I see no issue with continuing the trend :p

Who said anything about not valuing her body (We are still talking about a video game character correct?) You are pretty much the only person that is calling her a whore.

You claimed that the Starguardian skin doesn't fit with your view of her. The point of skins is to provide players multiple versions of the character. Just because its not your cup of tea doesn't mean there is an issue with it.

Lol, you want to talk about growing up while you call me a primate?? I would be curious to know what your definition of growing up is. So far you are just throwing out insults.

rtbf225618241Sep 23, 20161 votes

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HexaDecimelSep 23, 20162 votes

So if you are going to assume my age can I assume yours?

Seriously, its Riots game, they can make up whatever thematic they want. We as players can create new ideas or provide constructive suggestions and sometimes Riot will indulge us. But it is still their content.

Really??? Because I have gone through this thread and all I can see is you saying she looks like a whore and everyone else saying she doesn't.

I feel like the major difference here may be that I simply have a less watered down and narrow view about life.

HexaDecimelSep 23, 20162 votes

You aren't talking about a person you are talking about a video game character. Are you having trouble separating fantasy from reality?

There is nothing wrong with being horny, and it doesn't have anything to do with being lonely. Saying that you think most see her as an indecent slut is just making up facts to suit your argument, lol.

And on the point of empty pointless comments, I think that comments about mental capabilities or whos making real points would fall into that category.

I think its fair to say that we weren't the ones that started getting personal.

TyrekGoldenspearSep 23, 20161 votes

I'm pretty sure everyone here views her as an indecent slut regardless of what they say.

I truly do not.

Despite what you may think, you are not the only one who wants respect for Janna as a character. Your methods of calling attention to this are not ideal though.

TyrekGoldenspearSep 23, 20161 votes

Sigh, don't mind him.

Rest assured PLENTY of people tried to reason with him. Some kindly, others...

not so much.

Although you have to admit that the next day going through all these threads with popcorn is comedy gold.

HexaDecimelSep 23, 20161 votes

Oh I don't mind him at all, was just bored and wanted to waste his time and mine :p

HexaDecimelSep 23, 20161 votes

To be honest I have never once thought of any league character as slutty or indecent. I have just never seen any of them that way.

SandrahySep 20, 20167 votes

-Yea the massive bust and the mini-skirt revealing her legs plus the things that go on legs are not whore-ish at all. Also, she's all in Pink which makes her look like a sex doll.

First of all, Janna is purple, not pink, and honestly, if we are talking about revealing, Jinx is revealing more than Janna is, due to her outfit. https://puu.sh/rhFDG/c5a12e9853.jpg https://puu.sh/rhFD7/f086c63880.jpg

Anyways, Jannas bust dosn't even look that big in her star guardian outfit.

But this generally means anyone who was naturally born with a big bust is a whore? Not really fair if you ask me, it's not womens fault they were born like they are.

rtbf225618241Sep 20, 20161 votes

This is the 5th time i'm saying this but Jinx can't be sexualized cuz noone takes her sexually, given how she is always given a flat chest and how she is childish and insane. Same with Lux minus the insane part.

That's a mix of purple and pink.

It's the biggest of any champion, wth?

Don't bring real world into this, i'm talking about how they're making a certain character look like. For all we know, the characters may have literally fucking spawned into Runeterra given there's no technical lore of anyone's birth.

Everyone i've seen talk about Janna mentions her /joke or how she wears little almost no clothes. This sex-bunny outfit isn't helping. If they'd only put rabbit ears on her...

MavenSongSep 20, 20166 votes

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This is the 5th time i'm saying this but Jinx can't be sexualized cuz noone takes her sexually, given how she is always given a flat chest and how she is childish and insane. Same with Lux minus the insane part.

HAVE YOU MET THE INTERNET? Jinx is actually pretty sexualized but by the people, not Riot. Shes a fan favorite.

AptestSep 23, 20162 votes

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Janna being very sexually active is, i think, consistent with her old lore. Janna being known for her /joke is consistent with old janna lore and character.

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Janna being portrayed in a very sexualized way is not in any way a negative thing. There is nothing wrong with Janna being a character that is ALSO known for being very sexual. She is also known for being a patron of technology and some other things, so she is not a one dimensional floating hooker.

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I heavily disagree that the new splash art is oversexualized.

rtbf225618241Sep 23, 20161 votes

Do you even read the other comments i made? I've answered to pretty much everyone here and every new person that comments just keeps saying the same shit over and over again.

Old lore is not canon anymore. Her /joke is non-canon aswell. Summoner's Rift is non-canon. Even her current lore is not canon until they update it with the other champions

No the problem is that she is not sexual at all. There's nothing like that about her, she's just sexualized by Riot now with this bullshit skin and Riot giving her character so few clothes to better "represent a wind avatar".

AptestSep 23, 20164 votes

i think you have not made an argument in favor of your position that I accept. The arguments against you are still more valid than yours and you did not give, IMHO, satisfactory retort to them.

Your argument: above the knee socks, worn with a mini skirt, makes a woman look like a slut. Turtleneck Crop Top on a woman with big boobs make her look like a slut.

Valid counter argument: no. Knee socks do not make a woman look like a slut. Turtleneck crop tops do not make a woman look like a slut.

that's just your pervi imagination.

Second argument: Janna can't be shown to be a slut because she is a leader.

Valid counter argument: Jannaa can be a leader and a patron of hextech, AND be a slut, at the same time. And it makes her a better character if she is both.

Honestly if Janna's second job is a courtesan, she's definitely a better character for it.

I can't give you a more detailed argument. Because my argument is simply a statement of fact. facts have no reasoning and no arguments. they are just facts.

AptestSep 23, 20162 votes

honestly, jinx and lulu do not fit the "Star guardian" theme. Both of them are much more suited to be the villains, both lore and personality wise.

but ofc jinx has pigtails which entitles her a spot... ????