This isn't an attempt to bash you but point some things out.
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Lol, you don't seem to remember things accurately.
Riot never accurately described their future lore direction. They gave us a very broad lore philosophy that they were going to try to follow.
For some reason, Riot refused to answer most of the critical lore questions that surrounded the retcon.
For example: What's the deal with Jax's lore?
So because they gave broad outline of what their ideas are and not some in depth tell all you've basically become the complainer in chief is what it looks like. Also you may not have been attacking Riot in this thread but the same can't be held true for some of your other posts.
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Borked to the point where they can't even change text on certain pages?
Sounds like they've screwed things up pretty badly.
This next ones passive aggressive in anture and just because a thread is highly upvoted doens't mean anything since the small trollish group of the old gd used to upvote some of the worst most toxic threads out there aboutr rape/incest etc.
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There are many highly upvoted "best" rated threads in the Story and Art boards that have seemingly been ignored by RIot for quite a long time. Rioters may have read these posts, but they have certainly declined to interact with the community in any way whatsoever in many of these topics. Why is this?
Firstly, I thought that the whole point of the forum revamp was to make the more popular threads more visible to Rioters, so that they could respond to them.
Secondly, I thought that it was supposed to be a better way to tell Riot what the player=base actually cares about so that we could have better discussions with RIot about what is important to us.
So...why is Riot ignoring some of the most highly upvoted threads on the Story and Art Boards? And why does it seem like most of the threads that are being ignored are ones that seem to be against the retcon?
Just saying, I really miss the old Riot that actually defended its position on controversial issues, and was willing to discuss stuff with the player-base.
You did in that same thread have some good comments about it all and you kept it polite and neutral, something that sadfly some of your others posts don't do.
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Lol, I doubt Riot pays their lore writers minimum wage, but based on their performance, they probably should.
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I've made the same point before, albeit much less eloquently.
It does seem pretty weird that a "tech issue" would prevent Riot from putting text where they want it to be for several months.
Unless their technical team is completely incompetent, there's most likely something else going on.
Considering the perceived turn over that the lore department has gone through in the last year, it wouldn't be surprising if Riot was just trying to stall for time while its new team got its shit together.
Don't know why Riot isn't just being honest with us though. Their current explanations seem pretty fishy.
Unless you work for them or have some inside knowledge of the situation your claims are pretty baseless and why would Riot respond afte all the crap that's been thrown their way everytime they do respond it's never enough.
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Well, Riot has seemingly formed a foundations department recently. Assuming they still have a narrative department, and a lore department, I think it's high time Riot gave us a decent explanation about all of their story related departments and how they interact with one another.
This I can agree with but remeber those people might not be allowed to tell you anything. Those orders are probably coming down from 1 or more division heads higher up. I've dealt with enough of those people when I was managing a department ina wafer processing facility as a lead. In this case a polite thread asking @riot moobeat or @riot jinx for some clarification on said departments might help and get you a better understanding of how each department works.
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My issue isn't so much with their lack of reading the stuff posted, but their lack of responding to it.
Riot used to be very player focused, and it would discuss LoL with us to a great extent.
I feel that that was one of their greatest strengths that helped LoL become as popular as it is today.
I don't want Riot to lose sight of that, especially when it comes to their lore.
Really now, us players don't really have much of an idea about what Riot is thinking! That's a big part of the problem!
Here I ahve to agree that the community has gotten spoiled by how open Riot has been adn perhaps there's a reason for all this secrecy it could be compteitors or a change in department heads or soemone from higher up saying stop talking. But unless and until Riot decides to tell us the bashing of them for not responding to each and every thread where they only get flamed anyways is pointless. It's far better to post once a week and ask for an update while realizing you threads get buried by all the nerf x champ etc threads.
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The problem is that the Rioters that usually comment on lore pretty often say they can't tell us anything of substance since they aren't from the right department.
Hearing that gets old really fast.
BTW, I think you are awesome Ironstylus!!! :)
This happened a lot in the old TBI forums where we actually had a Riot Kiddington from their network services department come in and try and help but couldn't really tell us much. He did try and help as best he could and got toehr rioters involed who could help us. NMost rioters will try and help out even though they're not from teh same department.
@Riot, Let's Drop The Bullshit Reasons For Lore Stagnancy. Let's Actually Talk About Stuff!
Ok this thread title and what you put in it was totally uncalled for and is why you don't get any responses, if I was leading that department I wouldn't respond to this either and I'd tell my crew to do the same.
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Rioters, I know you guys must be bound to some kind of code that disables you from talking to us about certain things.
That's the only reason I can I can come up with to explain your silence over the last few months about giving us any details about Riot Narrative lore direction.
@Riot Narrative, Your absence in many threads has made it pretty clear that the narrative team has very little desire creating lore for the community that it serves.
Some of the ridiculous reasons that I've heard that Riot can no longer take fan input into account concerning champions and lore is troubling. We need someone to teach us about these issues.
We need a narrative team member who can talk to us about what their limitations are, so that we can better refine our posts to educate them on our opinion.
Riot Please, Listen to your player-base again... especially when it comes to lore!
TALK TO US!!!
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Not to disrespect the narrative team, but if your reasoning is correct, then they need to grow some balls and start doing their job.
Again uncalled for.
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Which is why constructive criticism is needed. If they aren't doing the job as well as the old crew, the playerbase should tell them what they're doing wrong so that they can improve.
It's called Player feedback.
It is necessary for League of Legends to become a better game.
Constructively critical posts are helpful to Riot, not hurtful.
People that blindly defend the stupid decisions that Riot makes hurt this game more than anything. It leads to Riot believing that bad decisions are good ones.
If I see Riot creating/posting bullshit, I will call it bullshit, and I consider that my way of telling Riot what I think from a player perspective.
Riot wants that kind of information. Telling them how you really feel gives them something to work on, while being forcefully positive when they are doing a bad job is just misleading them into creating bad lore.
Your opinion that it's bad doesn't make it so and saying that people blindly defend Riot without actually finding out their reasons is pretty bad when you claim to want constructive dialogue yet opppose it in the same post by stating people are blindly following Riot. You make some good points and then proceed to put your vitrual foot in your mouth and defeat yourself.
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