Predict the craziest lore change Swain will get

ChunLii··29 votes·2,584 views

Since Riot is a fan of those, for the better or worse, let’s think about it in terms of Swain. What we know so far:

  1. Swain is singular minded and not controlled by Beatrice or anything else. Confirmed by a rioter in an ask.

  2. By extension this also rules out Swain as a Darkin.

  3. Swain is fighting against some greater evil that can perish all Runeterra but we don’t know what that greater evil is. It could be three possibilities: Darkin, Void, or the Mist.

  4. Swain has some sort of connection with LeBlanc but this was pretty obvious though I don’t blame the people for asking because of how the lores can change in a major way.

  5. The greatest enemy is within... This could either mean the corruption in himself (consequences of a warlock) or the corruption of the Black Rose since Black Rose stronghold is within Noxus. Now if it’s the latter then the dynamic with Swain and LeBlanc will be very very interesting.

What is uncertain:

  1. Swain as a Vastayan or having Vastayan blood. Why is it uncertain and not confirmed? I mean Rakan canonically says you were five Vastayn blood. However, a Rioter states it might not be canon and recently another one stated “do you trust rakan?” They are either playing with us or they are low key implying the line will be taken out. Still it’s not a hard debunk.

  2. Swain’s relationship with Du Couteau though they do have something planned for this as confirmed in the ask. Were they friends turned enemies or enemies from the start?

  3. Beatrice’s existence.

Please tell me if I missed something and my question is what do you think will be the craziest lore change Swain will get?

63 Comments

AbiwonKenabi39 votes

Swain was the bulkiest, most dumbest soldier guy in the Noxian army. He is always charging the front lines without thinking. One day, he meets Draven, who orders him to kill the Grand General Darkwill on a whim. Swain does no political planning what-so-ever and charges in without thinking and kills the guy. Because everyone was pretty shocked that worked, they make Swain the new Grand General just for his sheer balls and no other interesting qualities. He doesn't have to face any political opponents what so ever, and he bans tactical planning tents from all his armies because he believes all armies should charge in with no plans. He's a leader that doesn't think and is on the frontlines at literally every waking moment. Also he might be a warlock.

Also he hates birds.

Am I doing this right? Am I making a lore Riot?

Talos of Altmora12 votes

okay, you win. No one can top this.

ChompyWulf16 votes

But he forgot to add that Swain sexually identifies as an Attack Helicopter.

AbiwonKenabi18 votes

Oh you're right. That must be why Swain had no political opponents. His Heartlight was busy defeating them with the power of mounted machine guns love.

Jet Sett10 votes

You're hired.

IDarkIFire3 votes

You forgot one core aspect of the character that needed to be perserved - he always charges in with the shout "Leeeeeerooooooooy .... Jeeenkiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins!!!!" [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

MysterQ29 votes

Swain is actualy two women, Black and Swan. Black almost died, but Swan took her to a priest who turned her into Beatrice. Overcome with grief and realizing he is in the wrong body, Swan becomes Swain.

ChunLii14 votes

Oh shit this reminds me. We don’t even know if Beatrice exists or not. Riot always avoid the questions and in his teaser art there is no unique multi eyed raven.

MysterQ10 votes

That's what you got out of that? OkRammus

To be specific then, Black has a brain transplant into a bird. The eyes are actually part of the brain (human anatomy) so those come with the brain. Swan's transition technology is not well developed = limp, realizes pants suck and limps suck = dress.

ChunLii7 votes

Yes? I just saw the name Beatrice and got reminded that I missed something important thanks. Creative theory :p

zaire901 votes

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Oh shit this reminds me. We don’t even know if Beatrice exists or not. Riot always avoid the questions and in his teaser art there is no unique multi eyed raven.

from some other teaser they showed it looked like Swains going to be followed by a whole flock of crows rather than just one

AbiwonKenabi2 votes

Isn't that sort of Fiddlesticks' thing? Like he's the flock of crows guy, Swain just has the one that he performs some kind of vague Black Magic with.

RookPusher22 votes

He's actually 5 Yordles standing on one another.

zero3569 votes

Wearing a trench coat?

warpenguin55520 votes

Him and Beatrice are lovers. We have no champion that appeals to those who fuck animals and they feel left out.

AbiwonKenabi6 votes

This sounds like no one could have any legitimate complaints about it at all, and that anyone who does complain about the change is probably homophobic.

As long as Twitter likes it, everyone else means jack-all.

Elemental Lux7 votes

I am willing to bet Ivern wouldn't turn down Gromp.

AbiwonKenabi6 votes

Isn't he already in a committed relationship with Daisy?

GreenLore7 votes

Nah she just stalks him,she is too shy to confess her feelings for him.

AbiwonKenabi3 votes

Daisy Best Girl

Talos of Altmora1 votes

RekSai would like to have a word with you.

ShinyTomb12 votes
  1. Swain is actually a bird.
Quepha10 votes

Bird is a Darkin.

:V

Hige10 votes

uhm I'd say Swain discovered vastayan blood and had vlad or some blood mage do a transfusion, he is conniving after all and plotting to receive ancient power forcefully would fit his strategist side

the craziest thing Riot will change is probably his fight against general du coteau, Swain probably will be portrayed as a servant of the du coteau, possibly the second in command as opposed to being a direct opponent who earned his place through fighting

Rebonack9 votes

Swain is actually an animated cadaver. He's been dead for years, but no one has noticed since Beatrice pilots him around ala Weekend at Bernie's.

DariusDemiurge9 votes

Swain is actually a demacian war hero.

RosaElia9 votes

Swain is actually an Ionian sent by Demacia to infiltrate Noxus then dethrone Ashe in the Freljord using hextech equipment in Piltover and body modification in Zaun. He is also an ascended from Shurima that has been imprisoned for a long time until he got released by the Devil himself from Bandle City.

Dead Anime Dad8 votes

Swain is actually 7 demacian spy yordles of varying genders and sexualities undercover in a trench coat posing as the leader of noxus. And beatrice is actually just a normal chicken.

MysterQ4 votes

hey, my chicken can be a raven if he/she/they/it wants to be. don't assume its species.

ReySolomon7 votes

I love the idea of Swain fighting off against more evil than he is.

HeimerLmao6 votes

Well, that's a description of Swain vs Teemo lane.

King Jarvan6 votes

He becomes gay and black, also he turns into a female.[sg-kiko]

ModCaliCoastReplay1 votes

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He becomes gay and black, also he turns into a female.[sg-kiko]

How about...

He was once a pacifist poet on Mount Targon. He seeks Taric's love, but is rejected, and he never heals.

So he has a psychotic break and becomes the all-slaughtering Grand General of Noxus.

But inside...his heart still yearns.

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GreenLore6 votes

Well given that they want Swain to stand at the frontlines,I'd say it is likely that the whole tactician-theme is going to get downplayed in favor of the warlock theme. Thus I think it is possible that Beatrice is a demon or something like that and Swain made a pact with her(like feeding her the souls of his opponents) in exchange for power.

Not sure about his connection to the black rose. I could imagine him actually being now an enemy of Leblanc,I mean Darius favors swain because he believes that swain will bring noxus back on the right path,but the black rose seems to support aristocrats instead(and Darius hates aristocrats). So either Swain is deceiving Darius or Leblanc(or he simply tries to find the middle ground)

AbiwonKenabi7 votes

I'd like to think he's playing both sides. Like he's hedging his bets so that if the Black Rose is under fire, he can bail, and vice versa.

I'm concerned that Riot doesn't understand that you can be a brilliant tactician and still fight on the frontlines. Those two ideas are not mutually exclusive. If you're a combat genius you don't have to hide in a tent.

I feel, personality-wise, Swain is primarily characterized by always being one step ahead, in everything from orchestrating a political coup to 1v1 battles. He's not afraid to get his hands dirty, but if there's a smarter way to do it, he will. I'm hoping all this talk of "we don't want him to be stuck in a tactical planning tent" just means gameplay-wise they want to focus on the Warlock side of him. And not that they are going to turn him into another dumb fighter even within the context of the lore.

Swain "The early bird guts the worm" This is not the statement of a man content to sit in a tent when he knows his personal involvement would assure his victory.

GreenLore2 votes

Overall they can keep him as a good tactician,but I doubt that he'll be THE tactician of the game.

Talos of Altmora2 votes

"If we approach strategically from the flank... Oh we'll just turn into a bird and eat them."

SpecterVonBaren3 votes

{quoted}

I'd like to think he's playing both sides. Like he's hedging his bets so that if the Black Rose is under fire, he can bail, and vice versa.

I'm concerned that Riot doesn't understand that you can be a brilliant tactician and still fight on the frontlines. Those two ideas are not mutually exclusive. If you're a combat genius you don't have to hide in a tent.

This is also, in fact, how things went for much of human history. People need to understand that modern warfare turned the rules of war completely on its head with the advent of technology, weapons, communication, strategy, scope, idealism, everything is so much more different now than it was then. In the kind of setting Swain is in, he would NEED to be at least right on the battlefield just to relay orders to his troops.

It is only now, with the possibility of someone on the frontlines dying to a lucky bullet, and the ability to give orders from large distances that the leaders stay away from the front line.

Emperor of Fate5 votes

I think that black rose will be the one to provide the vastayan blood...maybe leblanc's original intention was to use swain as a puppet , a pseudo general that follows her orders.However swain will try to turn the tables on her and to break free of her control and eliminate black rose ( the enemy that ''lies within'')...but this is simply his end goal as for now he plays along and deceives the deceiver..(yea somewhat ironic...)

we still have little info about black rose ...we do know that it consists of powerful mages( vlad, elise , leblanc) but thats it. nothing else...ahhhh i hope they keep some details from leblanc's judgement to me it was the most interesting of them all

Over Innsmouth5 votes

I want to put my totally unbiased hat in and say that there should be something with Vladimir, given the new level of power and significance Vladimir has with the recent bio updates painting him as some hidden figure who has a blood cult around him and has been around since the beginning of Noxus. Supposedly.

xxxDogmanxxx5 votes

I'd buy Swain with RP if Swain was a veteran, fat, transgender, Jewish, lesbian, black, small-person amputee with down syndrome.

NCBuckets4 votes

"transgender." that is all. that is the entire lore.

XIII Vanitas3 votes

Beatrice is actually a crow.

Stars Shaper3 votes

Swain is a woman.

Akali Prime3 votes

swain is now gay, kappa.

Lord Phazanor 2 votes

It is possible that the enemy from within is actually Mordekaiser (or people trying to resurrect him/bring him back to Noxus).
The Immortal Bastion, which is the center place of Noxus Prime, was Mordekaiser's castle in the time where he was living.
If you look closely, the Noxian crest ( a helmet and an axe fused) kinda reminds of Mordekaiser's helm. It would be possible that once Mordekaiser wants to conquer the world again, he'll start with Noxus.

ªTeemo2 votes

He'll be a transsexual lesbian

MysterQ3 votes

Swain is actualy two women, Black and Swan. Black almost died, but Swan took her to a priest who turned her into Beatrice. Overcome with grief and realizing he is in the wrong body, Swan becomes Swain.

Already called it.

Elipo1 votes

Swain is Le Blanc. Le Blanc is Swain. It sometimes feels femenine so those days it's Le Blanc. Sometimes it feels manlier so those days it's Swain. Sometimes it feels ravenny so it's Beatrice. Sometimes it feels red haired so it's Katarina. Sometimes it's feeling Draven, so, duh, those days it's Draven.

Sometimes it feels an urgent desire to see the world burn, so it's Teemo, aka "the evil within".

Kurjao1 votes

Beatrice, is actually a demon that like nocturne, Evelynn, fiddlesticks and Tahm kench feeds off the emotions of living beings and has taken physical form in order to be able to interact with other beings in order to reach it. In this case, he/she/it feeds off pain, and struggle and swain, being both crippled and a general who commands close to the battle, he provides a great host, to the point where Beatrice will fend off anything that tries to deny its source of sustenance, companionship, and a free perch.

[TLDR: Beatrice is a parasitic demon bird that is using swain to it's own benefit, that in return, gives swain magical powers such as transformation] That is my idea on swain's lore update.

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