Graves and TF Questions

missinggrave·9/24/2014, 1:08:41 AM·4 votes·1,137 views

Because I'm a dumb, I posted this in the comments for the "Where story happens" discussion instead of making a new discussion myself. Essentially, this is an attempt to get a red to answer a few of my questions on the lore over TF/Graves, but of course other people are able to try and give theories. :) < After all, it's a discussion and until a red confirms anything it's free to any opinion, right?

So with my friend ctrl+F I will repost what I commented on that page before deleting it and putting it here. :)

Hey, you said it not me, so here I go on TF and Graves.

Starting from the beginning because that's a very good place to start;

I understand the plot point that Twisted Fate was so desperate for magic that he sold out Graves in order to get it, but what exactly did he ask for? It's not like someone could just say, "You can forever pull rabbits out of any hat!" and convince them of giving out one of their comrades - after all, honor among thieves. It's just stated that he sold him out for being able to use magic, and we can clearly see what that's done with his abilities, but we can say anything from him being Gambit from X-men who can teleport because reasons to him being able to manipulate luck around him like Vriska from Homestuck. It'd be appreciated if we knew what KIND of magic TF was given, or at least give us a hint about it so TF can have a somewhat cleaner name. (( I mean, who wouldn't want magic? ))

Second, how exactly would Graves catch a guy THAT CAN FREAKING TELEPORT? I understand the logic that, "He'll always get away, and Graves will still keep chasing." But it's kinda demoralizing as a Graves player that enjoys the lore to know it's a never ending losing battle. TF caught in a bar? Teleports. TF caught in the street? Teleports. TF caught in chains against a wall with Graves ready to pull the trigger? TELEPORTS AND STUNS HIM AS A TAUNT BEFORE RUNNING AWAY! At least with rivalries like Jinx and Caitlyn, we know that Caitlyn has at least some chance at catching Jinx and she just hasn't done it yet. There's still the possibility and yet with Graves and TF, it's a flat out losing fight every time. This one would I love to have explained even if it's just, "ANTI-DARK-MAJYKS BULLETS."

Finally something that I just want to see as a fan of Graves and Evelynn, can we have them be allies? I mean, the enemy of my enemy is my friend after all! It's stated that Evelynn is rivals with Twisted Fate and for obvious reasons, who wants to be caught mid-gank when coming into top lane? This could lead to some interesting theories and fan writing/art without ever having to mention her in lore. This of course would be more of a request rather than a question needing to be explained, but it's still something I'd like to see or at least like to know it was thought of and turned down for one reason or another.

Thanks for anyone taking their time to read this. :)

4 Comments

HigeR9/24/2014, 2:47:09 PM2 votes

hehe I'm here to make things creepier.

[opinion starts here] Graves in reality has no intention of killing TF, as a matter of fact I believe that if he manages to catch TF out of mana, he'd pretty much let him go... why? well... if you wanna know... I'm not going to say it right away but I believe that Graves has more feelings than he lets out (he's macho like that after all...), he's angry about being sold of course but he's angrier about being sold by HIM, the only person he ever trusted, his Brother from another mother with whom he shared years with... at this point I think you get my drift xD

His beginnings talk about it as much as his story in jail... he stood in jail for years thinking about one thing only... He... Twisted fate... the bastard that left him alone to rot in that place, who betrayed him and his hea... ahem... his trust...

I can't say for sure this is how things are but there's definitely a freudian tint about this story that I can't shake out xD and for a freudian story you gotta have a freudian ending...

"there they were, finally... Twisted fate's magic had depleted itself out and his shotgun wasn't needed anymore, he had to do this with his own hands. He spitted out his own cigar and let the heavy weapon fall to the ground, the intense rain made everything more heavy and slow looking so his steps towards the wall twisted fate reclined on seemed to take forever but finally his hand reached the neck of his foe and pulled him upwards. He clenched one of his fist and his face went completely dark, rainwater dripping from his chin and blood from his hurt shoulder onto the floor.

-G-good job a-at last... Malcom... -... -K-killed by a b-brother... the best kind of d-death... -!!!

His face suddenly perked, revealing his watering eyes, surprise filled him whole but soon his eyebrows plummeted into an angry expression that made his fist clash against the wall inches from TF's face whom eyes were shut heavily. The sound of the rain intensified as they stood there and soon enough several savage hits against the wall splattered dust, rain and blood into TF's side until Grave's grip finally faded away.

-Leave... -What? Malc... -GET THE F*** OUT OF HERE! NOW!!!

...

;_;

Aeroner10/1/2014, 10:12:23 PM2 votes

QuickDraw Graves

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Maple Crusader1/12/2015, 2:55:14 AM1 votes

Graves is relentless. He'll catch TF, magic or not.