HOLY SHIT!

Korios·May 16, 2017·12 votes·4,444 views

https://youtu.be/Bn6b36Z4kl8 That was awesome ! ;)

32 Comments

RalanrMay 16, 20175 votes

It was awesome, but there are some things that bother me too much.

Her guns, the lack of aiming (and style of guns) of the other pirates, and drinking from a glass that a black widow was in.

SplisionMay 16, 20173 votes

The black widow's body itself isn't venomous, but it could be harboring some nasty microorganisms.

RiotBioluminescenceMay 16, 201714 votes

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The black widow's body itself isn't venomous, but it could be harboring some nasty microorganisms.

I think she was about to apply a very powerful 'surface disinfectant' to the inside of the glass. [slayer-jinx-wink]

TossaSaiyanMay 17, 20171 votes

You're so hot wtf item 3070 [zombie-nunu-hearts]

Variks the LoyalMay 16, 20171 votes

I'm pretty sure the gun style was for simplicity. This started as just storyboard drawings and simple, boxy handguns are a lot easier to draw than ornate flintlocks.

SplisionMay 16, 20173 votes

That and realistically flintlocks shouldn't be able to fire rounds as rapidly as they did in the animation.

Fondling GemsMay 17, 20171 votes

Tell that to Ashe pulling a longbow made of ice capable of firing a roughly 200 pound Ice arrow 225ish meters at a rate of 2.5 shots per second.

With her Q active she can shoot this theoretical bow 15 times a second with arrows capable of harming a being of solid rock. 900 rounds a minute is kinda crazy considering the world record is 10 arrows in 4.9 seconds, or just under 123 arrows a minute (assuming he could maintain that speed.)

I think we passed realism a long time ago.

SplisionMay 17, 20171 votes

I know we passed realism a long time ago. It's a fictional universe, and everything can be explained away with magic, but that only works if you actually explain something away as being magical in the first place (which isn't the case with Miss Fortune's guns).

Miss Fortune's guns are not hextech, so they don't even have magic imbued within them. That and there's nothing magical about Miss Fortune herself. She's a badass, but being badass doesn't automatically mean you can semi-auto with flintlocks.

At least in Ashe's case the bow can be explained away as being a magical ice bow that empowers it's users, or Ashe herself could be credited as being a magical human due to her ancestry.

Variks the LoyalMay 16, 20175 votes

My absolute favorite thing about it (And about Bilgewater in general) is the effortless blending of golden age piracy and the American west.

The alcohol, ship, crew, and visuals are all very piratey, while the music and gunplay evoke a lot of cowboy(girl?) feelings.

I feel like I could set Johnny Cash as the background to this, and it would fit perfectly. A lot better than in the PotC trailers, anyway.

ItsOrvalMay 17, 20172 votes

I dont like the looks of MF, also she has modern guns in this animation which makes her feel even less like the actual MF

RiotRiot TreblMuffinMay 17, 20175 votes

Hey there ItsOrval! I'm TreblMuffin. I do sound stuff for a whole bunch of our cinematic work. It looks like you're not alone in misunderstanding a bit of what this piece is, and what the Workshop is trying to show. Let me take you on a journey! motions over shoulder as rainbows and beautiful horse-dog creatures appear from the sky

What this video kind of shows is a slice of our work as we see on the way to a polished state for players. I actually have a lot of the same thoughts as you and many people in the thread when I get a first look at a cinematic. Half the time I'm looking at blocks and half sketched board-o-matics before it even gets to look like this! Imagine trying to concept sound for a Zaun shotgun when it's just a chunky grey set of lines! Is it pump loading? What does it shoot? What's it made out of? How "Used" is it?

In general there's a few different milestones where we refine aspects of a cinematic. Surrender is basically an animatic, which tells us if pacing and plot points are working, making sense, and resonating. Artists do their best to render out important pieces of the scenes, but at this stage, and especially for people like me, it's more important to get a sense of how the action moves and where major narrative beats are.

In my opinion, which is certainly questionable haha, Surrender is a darker exploration of who Fortune is. It deepens her character and, to me, makes her more interesting than the bubbly gun wieldin' gal you get in game. There's some kind of creepy gritty resolve to do dirty work and deal with the demons later in this. Honestly, she scares me. But I'm also in love with her. Which is common in my life...

blackfootedfoxMay 17, 20171 votes

I loved the animatic, but in all honestly I'd like to see Miss Fortune just get a VO update to reflect her lore character much better

RiotRiot TreblMuffinMay 17, 20174 votes

Who would be your actress pick?

Chromatic EagleMay 17, 20173 votes

Why not the current one but with different lines? Same as Lux and Caitlyn.

RiotRiot TreblMuffinMay 17, 20174 votes

Hellz yeah

Dzoni87May 18, 20171 votes

Yep, i agree. Miss Fortune just wouldn't be the same with different voice actress :D Oh, and it would also be cool if she still preserved some part of her flirty\seducing character :D But yes, let it be closer to her current storyline.

NylisaMay 16, 20171 votes

i just refreshed the universe page and i was like...what the...why did this change ! it was pretty awesome yeah!

the music was even better!

UnboundHadesMay 16, 20171 votes

that was that was so bad and it didn't even look like mf some things flowed nice but the rest where just garbage

FasmodeyMay 16, 201713 votes

This cinematics are not supposed to be high quality. It is not because they can't. They just want to make champions more alive with an easier and less time consuming way, which I am super fine with that. Isn't it something people asked for a long time?

I am excited. I hope they keep distance between releases pretty short.

TheIrishManXVIMay 16, 20175 votes

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This cinematics are not supposed to be high quality. It is not because they can't. They just want to make champions more alive with an easier and less time consuming way, which I am super fine with that. Isn't it something people asked for a long time?

I am excited. I hope they keep distance between releases pretty short.

I think it's perfect. It seems like more of a medium to jot things down and strong ideation of what's to come.

some degenerateMay 17, 20172 votes

This isn't even a real cinematic - it's an**_ animatic_**. Basically, a crudely-drawn and animated storyboard that's created to plan the flow and motion for finalized scenes in animated movies, shows, cinematics and etc. A 'rough draft' is probably the best way to put it; not indicative of the final product whatsoever.

Riot themselves even stated that this animatic was a test for something that they scrapped. It's the reason why she has modernized pistols instead of her blunderbuss guns and so on.

Hexs FortuneMay 17, 20171 votes

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This isn't even a real cinematic - it's an**_ animatic_**. Basically, a crudely-drawn and animated storyboard that's created to plan the flow and motion for finalized scenes in animated movies, shows, cinematics and etc. A 'rough draft' is probably the best way to put it; not indicative of the final product whatsoever.

Riot themselves even stated that this animatic was a test for something that they scrapped. It's the reason why she has modernized pistols instead of her blunderbuss guns and so on.

Different MF skins have different guns. For example the cowgirl skin has pistols similar to what we see in the short. We also don't know the circumstances behind the guns. For example this could take place in a time in her life before she got her current pair.

Valaran NaraMay 17, 20172 votes

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Different MF skins have different guns. For example the cowgirl skin has pistols similar to what we see in the short. We also don't know the circumstances behind the guns. For example this could take place in a time in her life before she got her current pair.

Note: isn't this trying to make it happen as an actual canon plot point? Your post, I mean. While it shows a story, it's a story that got scrapped and the cinematic not maid. Which means this animatic is not canon at all, which is why she has regular pistols. This is a rought draft for a cinematic they never went with, so a lot of things won't fit right.

The type of guns there don't fit Bilgewater.

MF's hair doesn't have the same kind of bounce or wavy texture.

If they were working on a cinematic and needed a concept to work through, they wouldn't add all the detail the final one has in the first take, right? Why make extravegant curved guns and flintlocks, when the shape of a generic pistol is easier to jot down and move onto the next frame. This isn't a story of what has occurred. It's an attempt to try and figure out her character, and how she would be in certain situations.

HalcyonDwellerMay 16, 20171 votes

Very cool animation!

I do take issue with the spider though. The profile they used was a Black Widow, but that species of spider would never actually get territorial or aggressive towards a human. Seriously, even if I poke their web with my finger they run for the nearest hiding place. The use of that species in the animation propagates unnecessary fear of non-aggressive kinds of spiders.

They should have used a Wolf Spider instead, because those fuckers are actually territorial and aggressive.

TheIrishManXVIMay 16, 20178 votes

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Very cool animation!

I do take issue with the spider though. The profile they used was a Black Widow, but that species of spider would never actually get territorial or aggressive towards a human. Seriously, even if I poke their web with my finger they run for the nearest hiding place. The use of that species in the animation propagates unnecessary fear of non-aggressive kinds of spiders.

They should have used a Wolf Spider instead, because those fuckers are actually territorial and aggressive.

I think it's just a spider more or less. Unless I see a red hourglass on it's back, I think it's more of just the generic creepy crawly. Plus, this take place on Runeterra, who's to say they have the same species of spiders here on Earth.

SplisionMay 16, 20171 votes

Are you sure? The wolf spiders around my house always run away when I walk around them. Then again, the paper wasps (the red ones) around my house are not aggressive either. You would literally have to grab them to piss them off.

HalcyonDwellerMay 16, 20171 votes

Quite sure. I had one charge at my face while I was crawling under a house to fix something. Had to wave a flashlight at it super frantically to get it to back off.

SplisionMay 16, 20171 votes

That's terrifying. It's a good thing your flashlight wasn't on cooldown kappa.

HalcyonDwellerMay 16, 20171 votes

Haha indeed! It was extremely territorial.

PlacentasMay 16, 20171 votes

This was perfect! I am a very happy MF main!

Also, that music was absolutely spot on!

EvilDJBootyMay 18, 20171 votes

I might be wrong or jumping to conclusions but I always felt that the hearts is symbolic to her survival.

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In my opinion, which is certainly questionable haha, Surrender is a darker exploration of who Fortune is. It deepens her character and, to me, makes her more interesting than the bubbly gun wieldin' gal you get in game. There's some kind of creepy gritty resolve to do dirty work and deal with the demons later in this. Honestly, she scares me. But I'm also in love with her. Which is common in my life...

Me too! I always believed MF to be different than her in game character. After watching this animatic, it gave me goosebumps knowing what the real MF be like.

My favorite song when I play Miss Fortune https://youtu.be/nOBexQKpLwg