One request for the Swain VGU

Swainey Todd··1 votes·456 views

People are throwing around ideas about what they hope for Swain's kit, as well as his personality, but no one has really mentioned an integral part to his identity: Beatrice, his raven.

She doesn't do much right now, besides act as Swain's Q and have a small animation when he dies, but she deserves much more.

Ravens are amazingly intelligent birds, capable of playing, bluffing, tricking other birds, pissing other birds off to get what they want, holding grudges, and coordinating funerals... just to name a few. They're also adept at mimicry.

What if there was a way for Riot to show that, maybe by her repeating or replying to certain things Swain says to her, making sounds when Swain taunts a Demacian, or even mimicking and mocking certain champions herself? I'm just throwing ideas, of course, but I think that would add a new dimension to a champion that has an intelligent and very mysterious pet always at his side.

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Sahn Uzal1 votes

yea, Swain has a lot of Potential, and Beatrice is a part of it :P

Swainey Todd1 votes

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Sahn Uzal1 votes

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lolipopevelynn1 votes

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People are throwing around ideas about what they hope for Swain's kit, as well as his personality, but no one has really mentioned an integral part to his identity: Beatrice, his raven.

She doesn't do much right now, besides act as Swain's Q and have a small animation when he dies, but she deserves much more.

Ravens are amazingly intelligent birds, capable of playing, bluffing, tricking other birds, pissing other birds off to get what they want, holding grudges, and coordinating funerals... just to name a few. They're also adept at mimicry.

What if there was a way for Riot to show that, maybe by her repeating or replying to certain things Swain says to her, making sounds when Swain taunts a Demacian, or even mimicking and mocking certain champions herself? I'm just throwing ideas, of course, but I think that would add a new dimension to a champion that has an intelligent and very mysterious pet always at his side.

i REALLY dont like the idea of another pet based champion. swain needs to be more unique than just "send x pet to do x dmg to x person", especially considering swain is the ruler of an empire so its just not fitting for him to let his pet do all the work. having the bird be a silent and ominous sign to swains true form is just more fitting. sure he can talk to it or even have the bird taunt people in jokes/taunts, but when it comes to abilities it shouldn't really do anything except disable like his current Q does.

a Raven has always been seen as a bad omen, especially in poe books which swains abilities are based on. so beatrice should be a silent but deadly pet, unlike the comical ones we have now. basically just a normal raven

Swainey Todd1 votes

I agree with not having it be another Kled and Skaarl relationship. It wouldn't be as subtle as Swain is as a character. And having Beatrice "do all the work" isn't exactly Swain either. He's the champion, not Beatrice, hence he does all the work.

However, "normal ravens" are talkative birds, whether it's calls or sounds they hear and imitate, so to have Beatrice be completely silent would be very atypical for a corvid. I'm not here to say Beatrice should be blabbing the whole time in an annoying fashion, but even if she was to say a few quips or to respond to Swain sometimes, it would show the bird's innate intelligence.

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