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Twëek14 votes

The whole situation is unfortunate regardless. Even with the nice face shopped on to the new model, if I didn't know better, I would assume that the one on the left is the "new" model.

macromite1 votes

of you assumed that you would be mental, sure alone it looks better, but it doesn't fit the aesthetic at all.

Verxint4 votes

The thing is, this headswapping shows how little effort riot would actually have to put in to satisfy people.

Centuros2 votes

Nah, they look like two different skins.

Vistha Kai11 votes

Well, as the guy on the reddit said they could just port Headmistress' VU'd hair to all her other skins.

Seriously, when I read all those excuses like "editing hair now would most likely fuck UV and shit" is disgusting.

I've been into TES and Fallout 3+ modding for like 10 years now and I've never ever heard such bullshit of an excuse. Especially since they already have a matrix in the form of, mentioned before, Headmistress Fiora.


But I bet it's just as hard as creating Chromas - for anybody with any knowledge of using even fucken MSpaint, it's 5 minutes of work. For them it's worth 300+ RP and months of lying to the community.

Jasiwel3 votes

It is quite a peculiar situation because changing skins around in other games is not a difficult process most of the time. Heck, making 3rd party custom skins for League is not too difficult of a process. That said, I think the art team has to go through a different set of hurdles and loopholes than most of us believe. It could be considerably possible that the current system and engine is making it more difficult to put in a lot of the simpler, less complicated content.

On top of that, a lot of us art folk have a particular direction we want to go with something and can get really blindsided by the conventionality or faithfulness of that direction to the original. In some cases, it's fine and necessary (Nasus, Twitch), but I believe the art team had a very particular focus on their direction and did not believe it necessary to remain faithful to the original details. Her face resembles Fiora's, but it simply is not her. I can tell it's her, but I could easily see her as someone else or as a trope of her character.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Well, even if there are quirks that inhibit them from working:

  1. They should tell us about them - editing UV isn't a viable excuse, mind you.

  2. They aren't as huge as they are making them to be - since within one working day they could modify something that they said is too hard and/or tiresome to do.

I agree on the direction, they just went too blindly with their own idea and failed to deliver - not like it's uncommon for most Rioters.

Jasiwel2 votes
  1. Communication between Riot and the community is a battle in its own right. Keep in mind though, there have been many times where Riot has stated "We don't have that technology" for a number of things. On top of that, it's not good when teams and departments fight over stuff, so you can imagine some difficulties involved with outright telling the community "This asset in the game is subpar and is why things aren't working as smoothly" because then it's almost pointing fingers.

  2. Remember that Rioters have their respective agendas and things to do. When the community backlashes and absolutely demands changes, that means said Rioters have to delay the next content they were going to work on to fix those changes. In some situations, that's probably business as usual. However, gauging Parrot Man's reaction, this time is one of those situations where they had a lot of other stuff to do and going back just to fix this for them is going to step on a lot of toes. It probably means they'll have to work overtime, or double overtime, or even just have to do something that they are not passionate about doing. If an artist isn't driven to do something, it is really fucking hard to do it.

I'm not trying to make excuses for Riot (because excuses just piss people off), but I am trying to help everyone understand that these simple changes have deeper repercussions involved.

Vistha Kai1 votes

You see, and this is why I love how Digital Extremes handles things. They may fail to deliver, but they will take time if necessary, postpone an update by a week and fix things as soon as possible. No excuses.

SoultakerKatana1 votes

Ty i agree so much also im the guy on reddit Filthy Weaboo . Ironstylus just said that her hair couldn't be changed because its messes up the coding and uv. next day her hair is changed. We know they can do it but they just want to act stubborn with the flawed stylistic art style which is not working out so far. Enregistrer Fiora ,Enregistrez le baquette Fiora

pedrowillfeed3 votes

You'll love this one <3

meatjunjun2 votes

This is the best new one so far. Tied with the old default

Tapu Fini2 votes

She looks too young and soft here. No arrogance or sense of self worth, cutesy anime instead :0

inmUGco1 votes

No! i not very like jepan cartoon style!

pedrowillfeed4 votes

I still don't understand... WHY CHANGE HER APPEARANCE?! Nobody ever complained about her and she's relatively new!

PD: I like the new kit, but her new ult is just dumb. She's a duelist, it makes no sense.

Only Play Darius1 votes

{quoted}

PD: I like the new kit, but her new ult is just dumb. She's a duelist, it makes no sense.

Because they said that her current playstyle involved zero interaction with her own team. Riot considers splitpushing a selfish playstyle, and most splitpushers don't do it because they are particularly good at it, but because their kit is such that it punishes them for teamfighting. This is especially true with Fiora, since she is technically one of the worse splitpushers because she has zero innate waveclear and no escapes, but splitpushes anyway.

Chaotic Reks4 votes

or you know KEEP THE OLD ONE

ExcaIibur Morgan3 votes

Huge improvement. You know what would be even better? Scrapping the entirety of their VU.

SoultakerKatana1 votes

ikr

KING OF MASKS3 votes

The original looks so much better... the high collar, the tri-cape, the ornamental armor, the lack of ridiculous Yasuo-sized pauldrons and yoga pants...

I could fucking weep, I really could.

SlampieceHawke2 votes

I can't imagine anything I care less about. I'm just anxiously awaiting the long needed rework that may make her somewhat viable.

SoultakerKatana1 votes

no her face is still bad and her hair needs to come closer to her face

DJ Di02 votes

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no her face is still bad and her hair needs to come closer to her face

Yeah, this should totally take priority over her actual gameplay.

Yup.

GamerGoodies2 votes

Why are you people going to complain about her face so much. It's not even going to be noticeable cause you'll be too busy playing the game!

You people I swear.

TwoD1 votes

why do you care

Biff Manly1 votes

The problem being everybody hates a different part of the new Fiora look, but they all keep trying to group together and end up kicking eachother's asses when they aim for Riot.

FoxyKitten1 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/07/724-pbe-update.html

"Riot never listens" - Reddit 2k15

Also, Why do I feel like everyone is more focused on Fiora's splash rather than her new gameplay? I mean, Isn't gameplay the most important factor of a champion's update? Not saying visuals aren't.

KING OF MASKS7 votes

Everyone in the loop knew that a gameplay rework was on its way. And on paper it looks pretty decent (the ult seems to be the only thing people disagree with).

The VU, on the other hand, is completely out of left field, makes no sense, and just about everyone hates it.

FoxyKitten2 votes

the majority of the fans absolutely love the new look, the ones who dislike it are the ones who mained her in league and now realize she isn't a facerolling easy pick champ anymore.

KING OF MASKS7 votes

Uh, "majority of the fans"? "Absolutely love"? Where, exactly?

FoxyKitten1 votes
SoultakerKatana1 votes

Hi im Filthy Weaboo that guy on reddit who did this PS. Ty for this post lets hope riot can do this and try to copy it the best they can.

Linna Excel1 votes

I'm going to miss her old outfit. The new one is nice, but she really should have gotten a traditional skin.

DJ Di01 votes

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I'm going to miss her old outfit. The new one is nice, but she really should have gotten a traditional skin.

I'm in love with the concept art, kind of wish they would have used that but oh well. Had a small Kill La Kill feel to it haha.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Iww220bDhcE/Va_PoSt8BeI/AAAAAAAAuH8/BrvQws8FPAY/s1600/raymond-griego-raymond-griego-fiora.jpg

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