Void incursion with a huge knock-down drag-out fight between kaiju-sized Voidborn and the various Targon champs?
Or an investigation-style story that follows Kass working in the shadows to prevent an incursion from taking place and killing everyone?
GreenLore5 votesI feel like it is a bit too early to punch cthulhu. Sure having a huge void invasion would be cool,but I'd rather see some built up to it first.
Whyte Lyon3 votesYou know you have two very arrogant idiots when both their arguments goes way off topic. To be fair though it always makes for a entertaining read.
"He who speaks the loudest has the correct opinion but he who does so makes for the biggest cringe"
I feels for OP
Nurgle Prophet2 votesLeague's Lore has become cheap yet enjoyable trash, much like fast food, so I say go balls-to-the-wall, Hollywood style.
New map, HUGE hole in Runeterra opened and is pouring voidlings. Make it a Prey style game, in which four players unite to try and take a fifth player who takes the role of a Void monster trying to build an army of minions to expand the Void's influence, while the four players do whatever they can to close the Void Gate.
Each player has his own base in each corner where they'd start, and would try to attack the center stage of the map where the Void Monster would have to manage his defenses, much like Nexus Siege combined with Bilgewater Mercenaries, to try and halt the enemies while at the same time attacking each base. The Monster would be able to 1vs2, 1vs3 if good, but never 1vs4, making coordination absolutely essential.
Every time a player base was destroyed, the other players would reset back to their bases and get a buff making them stronger, while the Monster would get an extra resource point (the previous player's base) from which to build his defenses. Damage dealt to bases previous to the destruction of one sticks. A defeated player could exit the game or optionally spectate from a player's viewpoint.
The Void Monster player would win if he managed to take down 3 bases while the players would win if they managed to shut down the Void Gate.
Beyond Legends1 votesYou act like old league lore was ever not just a cheap edgy fanfic.
Nurgle Prophet2 votes[{quoted}](name=Beyond Legends,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JuiGgw5E,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-08-28T17:52:35.010+0000)
You act like old league lore was ever not just a cheap edgy fanfic.
For one, it was self-aware, while this near rotting pile of garbage we have now is not.
For two, it had great untapped potential, one which was beginning to fulfill before it's plug was cut. This one is whatever "cool" idea crosses the damned writer's minds with little to no regard for internal consistency (and if there is, it's shit. Look no further than Black Mist Hecarim's Lore apparent retcon on the Mist's origins).
And for three, it had an active community that actually gave two shits and gave us a role in the world, which allowed the players themselves to interact with the sprawling world laid before us. Noxus v Ionia being its more prominent example. Here, the damned lore event that was supposed to give us some continuity - the War of The Three Sisters - was a disappointment all around, and we're left with seemingly empty promises about a follow up that more likely than not will never come.
And honestly, your comment is as far out as it can be. Cheap, maybe, but it sure as fuck wasn't edgy, and fanfic? Of what? Are you trying to take jabs at it being unoriginal, which admittedly was until mid season 1 or so, at least in regards to champions? Or just quality?
Beyond Legends1 votesHahaha
Self aware more like lazy writing to tack on a dota sequel. You're part of the old lore was good squad? Your a joke.
Potential? Where? Plz tell me more about the cliche ass factions that had tacty cliche twist stick in them had any potential to advance. Tell me more about how ms generic hero leona and sparta cliche pantheon had any good story ahead of them.
Also are you so retarded that you didn't realized that the whole Noxus vs Ionia thing was planned from the very beggining? Interact my butthole m8. Did you also forgot the ending to kalamanda too?
My comment is far out? More like your in denial on how utter shit the old lore was. Cry a river mate. The old lore should have just been a fanfic of warcraft 3
Nurgle Prophet2 votes[{quoted}](name=Beyond Legends,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JuiGgw5E,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-28T21:04:42.969+0000)
Hahaha
Self aware more like lazy writing to tack on a dota sequel. You're part of the old lore was good squad? Your a joke.
Potential? Where? Plz tell me more about the cliche ass factions that had tacty cliche twist stick in them had any potential to advance. Tell me more about how ms generic hero leona and sparta cliche pantheon had any good story ahead of them.
Also are you so retarded that you didn't realized that the whole Noxus vs Ionia thing was planned from the very beggining? Interact my butthole m8. Did you also forgot the ending to kalamanda too?
My comment is far out? More like your in denial on how utter shit the old lore was. Cry a river mate. The old lore should have just been a fanfic of warcraft 3
And having been somehow threatened, the forum dweller is unable to process a different opinion, and as such resumes to it's normal response, needless insults and broading generalizations, while using strawmans and exagerations to make it look like his point is the only one.
Oh sorry, too sarcastic? You're not worth my time or effort answering. You're barely worth the reply I'm writing. Learn to be respectful in conversations, until then don't be surprised me and others treat you like the worthless trash you behave as.
EDIT: And before you get your knob on how you somehow "won" this debate by being too intellectually uninteresting to have a conversation that doesn't descend into meaningless insults, conjure a proper response and you'll get a proper answer, for I am more than willing to discuss lore. Just not with uncultured jackasses like you.
Beyond Legends1 votesBohoo hoo. Can't take that I have called the old lore shit? So defensive, where all your vile and venom now? I haven't seen anyone of you even try to defend the old lore.Little piss ant.
I don't need to win because I already won. I get to enjoy my lore and I get to shit on your retarded ideas.
Nurgle Prophet2 votes[{quoted}](name=Beyond Legends,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JuiGgw5E,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-28T21:32:33.495+0000)
Bohoo hoo. Can't take that I have called the old lore shit? So defensive, where all your vile and venom now? I haven't seen anyone of you even try to defend the old lore.Little piss ant.
I don't need to win because I already won. I get to enjoy my lore and I get to shit on your retarded ideas.
Very well then.
First, the old lore presented something that lacks in so many low fantasy settings: A World Without Conflict. Which is not to say there isn't gravitas behind each character's actions, however, contrary to most of the new lore, the characters act to either maintain or undo the status quo of temporary peace. Contrary to the state of permanent catastrophe and war we find ourselves in this new lore - The Black Mist, the taking of Bilgewater, the conflict of Xerath's Ascension and Rebirth, whatever the FUCK Aurelion Sol is doing fighting an INTERGALATIC SPACE EMPIRE or whatever stupid, idiotic, imbecilic retarded thing they created for the Targon event (sorry lore team if by some luck you're reading this, but I've yet to fathom why I should even care about anything else when Space Creator Dragon vs Intergalatic Empire that enslaved it is happening in the background), we had a real, thriving world.
The Institute of War was very special in fiction, because, contrary to the many other fantasy settings out there, served a very human purpose: the prevention of large scale disasters, the attempt to stop further war. It kept large city states under control, yet it was not all-powerful. It's Summoners came from all countries, city-states and origins, and it took the combined resources of all nations to keep going. It's High Councilors were either very old or involved in scandals, and soon the final remnants of the Rune Mages of Old were dying out, the wars that literally shaped continents a thing of the past.
Almost every event we had was a consequence of an attempt to prevent further conflict. The Disaster at Kalamanda demonstrated even Summoners are unable to stop diplomatic shitstorms, and what people forget is that to stop a small scale battle the Institute had to sacrifice an entire town. The healing debuff and mana regeneration present in the Crystal Scar at first? The magical equivalent of Nuclear Fallout, and the champions were only kept alive by the protective magic of Nexii. The Rematch of Ionia Vs Noxus showed that while willing to listen, nations were also willing to defy the Institute, and sometimes WIN. The Void was supposedly controlled, even if it was hinted it was merely buying time, political machinations rumbled in the background and champions from different origins could reunite and ACTUALLY BE HUMAN. They could be actual people, not just walking Deus Ex Machinas fit to serve a purpose. There was no harm of having a Yordle simply BE a Yordle, simply having gained admission into the League by representation, not some spirit of war or whatever THE FUCK Kled is supposed to be.
There was life, interaction, a raison d'être for us to care. It was a world where people could live, maybe thrive. And more importantly, most actions had consequences, and most events mattered and made sense. This new lore however, can't decide if it wants to be Dark Souls style shit with anual zombie apocalypses or some whimsy ass bullcrap, with a redneck immortal Yordle who almost singlehandely founded Noxus existing without a trace of irony in the same world as the Shadow Isles, the Void and everything else. The League of Legends wasn't a limiting factor of lore, it was in fact an unifying element for different shades of people from different shades of life to come together. Meanwhile, most of our current rooster seems to be from different damned planets, with flintocks and cannons coexisting with MOTHERFUCKING PARTICLE ACCELERATORS (if you're wondering, go search a Rioter's explanation for Jhin's ultimate and the function of the machine strapped to his shoulder).
And then there's the edgy part. This is where you are flat out wrong. No better example that Old Xerath vs New Xerath. The story of Xerath used to be poignant and sad. Actually touching really. Here's a man that gave everything for what he wanted, for what he felt he needed, and when his body literally could not wield under the weight of his desire, he used the power he spent a lifetime gathering to transcend. Yet at the very moment of his success, his wife, his love, he hesitated. More than hesitate, he wanted to stop. He wanted to abandon his dream for his passion. It was only when his wife was killed, as a consequence of his actions, that he decided to keep going, for he had nothing left. Yet with all his power, he was overpowered and locked up by his peers, fearing what they couldn't understand. When he finally was released, was he angry? Was he desiring revenge? Paraphrasing: "I have no need for revenge. The winds of Shurima have carried away their dust and only I remain". He was consumed by his desire not of power, but of knowledge. The new Xerath, however, is cliché personified. He did not earn by years of study and training the power he used to ascend. He used political machinations, tricks and assassinations to steal what wasn't his to take. And to make it worse, when he had the chance to take it all back, when he could have warned his friend, he refused, choosing himself and his desires over any chance of redemption. He was pretty much a two-dimensional villain instead of the complex character he once was.
And there are so many more examples. Skarner, Viktor, Katarina (PASSION), Trundle, Warwick, Soraka... complex champions with further purpose than merely being a setpiece on some TBA Board Game-like shit that's going to be so awesome guys just wait and see ;) for the purposes of new lore which amounted to jackshit.
Also, "my" ideas are retarded. Smooth. You're what in my circle is called a pseudo-intellectual. You'll gladly eat shit while pretending it is of higher caliber from the shit others are eating just because you're the one eating it. Guess what, jackass? This new lore is as bad if not worse than what came before. Every single gaming community to which lore is important mocks League's lore and uses it as a prime example of what not to do. But why should I bother? Asinus Asinum Fricat. Don't mind me and enjoy your McDonalds for all its worth. Just don't shit in my bread and call it sandwich. At least have the intellectual honesty to understand you're eating cheap enjoyable trash.
Beyond Legends1 votesFucking hell I actually have to get of on my mushroom juice to reply to this retard.
Congratulation idiot.
Ok where do I start on this diatribe of old lore. I know. Let's discuss the shit that was the institute of war
First you have to get through your thick skull is that Unique doesn't equal good. Modern Art is unique but not all of them are good. The Institute was a very poorly thought out idea that was mainly created to give a pseudo backstory to the game. If you haven't notice that perhaps you need to clean you eyes with soap. The whole point of the IoW was this magical UN to stop all the rune magic(nukes) from firing off on each other. That concept might have been good if it was at all execute properly(spoiler alert: It never did). It was obvious that the writer doesn't have a basic understanding of UN was at all. Firstly why the living fuck is the UN armed with deadly mages (summoners) who could destroy and conquer both factions. We know that the summoner could kill an entire village in a botch summoning attempt, not to mention the infinity amount of mindless minions and had the magic to entrap demi god, but the can't control two city states??? The UNis a glorify union treaty to keep all the other nation in check. The whole point of an UN is not have any military power so it wouldn't become a super state. They other nation to not to go to war by using econimics. Yet IoW was faction filled with uncheck power. By all means it should become a super state yet by the miracle of fanfic all mighty they did not. Which is utterly retarded to any person who has a basic understanding of politic or the real world. Oh also it's retarded that mages wouldn't turn against the world just because they came from other factions since the League has already existed for 25 years at the start of the game. 25 years you realize how easy it was create a new generation of soldier or have indoctrinated youth? Thats not to even mention the shit story that came out of JoJ. Yeah nice story about Blitzcrank punching Singed in the dick or Nidalee's stupid relationship with summoner bob. What is this fucking MTV
Fucking hell you talk about new lore losing the plot? I ask one more fucking time DID YOU FUCKING READ JOJ. You moronic retarded of headless chicken eaten away by invisible badgers. The old lore had zero fucking clue what the fuck they want. All conflict suppose cleared out by matches, Ionian war happens...What the Actual fuck did the Ionian War Happen? WHY THE FUCK DID IT HAPPEN? Fuck what happen to all the magical wizard people who could forcefully summon champion on the rift?? What happen to the mind control aspect of their power?? Where the fuck did all that shit go. Oh don't give me that shit about the Ionian war happen before the the IoW. First of all the Institute existed for about at least 24 years hence 24 CLE (Current League era) printed on JoJ. If the war happened before JoJ than Riven would have been atleast idk 44 when she join the league? If happen during league era, then what the fuck was the League doing. You literally had one nation invade another and didn't give a fuck but gave a fuck in Kalamanda? What the fuck is the function of IoW? The entire plot and set up was lost entirely.
You talk about politic yet you have jack dick on who real politic works. The Iow was retarded down to the core and all it's drama was so retarded because the premise was jack dick. Summoner should have been easily able to stop all the political shit yet they did not? Why? There is no fucking reason why couldn't they, yet they couldn't because the writer said so. Funny you mention about a Deus Ex Machina when the entire Kalamanda ending was the poster child of one. Oh how we end this conflict, lets just make Zilean come over and time freeze everyone. Yeah thats good and then lets bullshit an excuse on how Swain got to the top... mother fuck what kinda shit writing was that
Man I'm not even going to get to the shit characterization some one the character had. I'll go back to drinking my mushroom juice instead of going through that pile of shit. League lore was only good after varus where they decided to ditch the the Iow. Everything before was utter shit. You fucking disillusion and you know jack about politics. Go read a fucking book before you come here and make a retard of yourself.
Nurgle Prophet2 votes[{quoted}](name=Beyond Legends,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JuiGgw5E,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-28T23:25:28.964+0000)
Fucking hell I actually have to get of on my mushroom juice to reply to this retard.
Congratulation idiot.
Ok where do I start on this diatribe of old lore. I know. Let's discuss the shit that was the institute of war
First you have to get through your thick skull is that Unique doesn't equal good. Modern Art is unique but not all of them are good. The Institute was a very poorly thought out idea that was mainly created to give a pseudo backstory to the game. If you haven't notice that perhaps you need to clean you eyes with soap. The whole point of the IoW was this magical UN to stop all the rune magic(nukes) from firing off on each other. That concept might have been good if it was at all execute properly(spoiler alert: It never did). It was obvious that the writer doesn't have a basic understanding of UN was at all. Firstly why the living fuck is the UN armed with deadly mages (summoners) who could destroy and conquer both factions. We know that the summoner could kill an entire village in a botch summoning attempt, not to mention the infinity amount of mindless minions and had the magic to entrap demi god, but the can't control two city states??? The UNis a glorify union treaty to keep all the other nation in check. The whole point of an UN is not have any military power so it wouldn't become a super state. They other nation to not to go to war by using econimics. Yet IoW was faction filled with uncheck power. By all means it should become a super state yet by the miracle of fanfic all mighty they did not. Which is utterly retarded to any person who has a basic understanding of politic or the real world. Oh also it's retarded that mages wouldn't turn against the world just because they came from other factions since the League has already existed for 25 years at the start of the game. 25 years you realize how easy it was create a new generation of soldier or have indoctrinated youth? Thats not to even mention the shit story that came out of JoJ. Yeah nice story about Blitzcrank punching Singed in the dick or Nidalee's stupid relationship with summoner bob. What is this fucking MTV
Fucking hell you talk about new lore losing the plot? I ask one more fucking time DID YOU FUCKING READ JOJ. You moronic retarded of headless chicken eaten away by invisible badgers. The old lore had zero fucking clue what the fuck they want. All conflict suppose cleared out by matches, Ionian war happens...What the Actual fuck did the Ionian War Happen? WHY THE FUCK DID IT HAPPEN? Fuck what happen to all the magical wizard people who could forcefully summon champion on the rift?? What happen to the mind control aspect of their power?? Where the fuck did all that shit go. Oh don't give me that shit about the Ionian war happen before the the IoW. First of all the Institute existed for about at least 24 years hence 24 CLE (Current League era) printed on JoJ. If the war happened before JoJ than Riven would have been atleast idk 44 when she join the league? If happen during league era, then what the fuck was the League doing. You literally had one nation invade another and didn't give a fuck but gave a fuck in Kalamanda? What the fuck is the function of IoW? The entire plot and set up was lost entirely.
You talk about politic yet you have jack dick on who real politic works. The Iow was retarded down to the core and all it's drama was so retarded because the premise was jack dick. Summoner should have been easily able to stop all the political shit yet they did not? Why? There is no fucking reason why couldn't they, yet they couldn't because the writer said so. Funny you mention about a Deus Ex Machina when the entire Kalamanda ending was the poster child of one. Oh how we end this conflict, lets just make Zilean come over and time freeze everyone. Yeah thats good and then lets bullshit an excuse on how Swain got to the top... mother fuck what kinda shit writing was that
Man I'm not even going to get to the shit characterization some one the character had. I'll go back to drinking my mushroom juice instead of going through that pile of shit. League lore was only good after varus where they decided to ditch the the Iow. Everything before was utter shit. You fucking disillusion and you know jack about politics. Go read a fucking book before you come here and make a retard of yourself.
Just as I suspected.
For someone that apparently knows so much, or at least gives the idea of such by demeaning others, you sure as hell resort to insults pretty fast.
Your attempts at jokes fall flat, you know so much less than you think you actually do, and more important than not, your opinion isn't the be all end all of the world. In fact, for the world at large, your opinion is pretty meaningless overall, as is mine, yet you're the kind of narcissistic freak who thinks that despite everything being trash, you're somehow less trash than everyone else.
But I won't bother with you anymore. THere are plenty of defenders of the new lore that have an actual brain and are actually worth arguing with than your pathetic, insulting, belligerent little ass. I'd wish you a good day, but I'd be indulging in insincerity, so have a day tailored to what you deserve (in case I haven't made myself particularly clear, not good at all).
Beyond Legends2 votesYet you still cannot answer those questions can you? You have zero legging to stand on but the fact the new lore doesn't allign to your shit taste for story telling.
You won't get any disscussion from anyone as all you do is swallow in your own self pity. I'm going enjoy what Riot will offer and I'll continue to piss on you little self circle jerk of hate.
You do not deserve rational disccussion. You only deserve the posion that you spewl.
Tattersall1 votesIf the Void decided to go full-force attack, it would affect everyone in a big way. Remember, Aurelion Sol is basically a god, but only in this plane of existence. It's possible that there are beings in the Void that Targon and Sol would not be able to deal with. Bard might be able to help, though.
Tattersall1 votesAnyway, Kassadin would be the first line of defense against the Void, but he would eventually be overwhelmed. After that, the Targonians and the Ascended Shurimans (oh, and the Shadow Isles dudes) would probably have the best chance of stopping them. Plus, the Targonians have control over a massive dragon god that could always just destroy Runeterra without even really trying. Problem solved.
Insanity Song1 votesProbably with a uneasy momentary peace between noxus and damacia to help fight off the voidling charges
Rebonack1 votes[{quoted}](name=Insanity Song,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JuiGgw5E,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-08-29T02:12:11.919+0000)
Probably with a uneasy momentary peace between noxus and damacia to help fight off the voidling charges
Here I'm imagining Noxus and Demacia getting into a fight over the best way to save the world from utter annihilation.
Insanity Song2 votesMind you jarvan and swain are smarter then to go into a dick measuring contest
Rebonack1 votes[{quoted}](name=Insanity Song,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JuiGgw5E,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-29T05:23:22.997+0000)
Mind you jarvan and swain are smarter then to go into a dick measuring contest
You would certainly HOPE so.