We got many Humans, Yordles,... What about the other races (and new races)?

Macilento·Sep 21, 2015·10 votes·3,408 views

Okay so , i am not a lore nerd, but i have a simple question in mind. We have so many human champions, we got a good chunk of yordles, we got some void creatures.... but then what about the other races?

I mean, if League of Legends is in the fantasy genre, why don't we have champions of other races as well? So that we can create more consistency across the board.

For example is Trundle the only troll in existence? that would be lame, Why don't we have other trolls champions? (no bad jokes here guys :P) Volibear is the only talking bear? What about other "beings" like Aatrox? Bard? are they alone?

Also what about NEW races? I mean, this world cannot be just filled with monsters, humans and yordles right? It's a fantasy world, and i would love to see other factions or races introduced, so to expand our horizon.

Having only 1 champion for these races kinda feel bad, couse it kinda screams: " here you got ex. Trundle, he is our version of trolls.... But sry we got only him..."

Then there are other beings that are more like "entities" and as such they are Unique, and are not rferred to as Races. That is okay, like Kindred is okaya s it is.

BUT I WANT MORE RACES

EDIT: Since more and more of you showed interest in this, try to upvote and get this thread visible to reds ty

65 Comments

Ebonmaw DragonSep 21, 20155 votes

There are many sentient races in Runeterra... but the problems is that Riot tends to create a single champion per race:

Humans: The normal humans that we all know, they usually live in city states like Demacia, Ionia, Noxus, Freljord Piltover, Zaun, Shurima and some of them even live in Bandle City... yes, they do. Yordles: The little guys with fur. Most of them live at Bandle City and Piltover, however, there are yordles everywere, even in Noxus according to the JoJ. Undeads: Dead people walking Voidborns: Powerful monsters that were "born" in the Void Voidlings: Lesser creatures from the Void... yes, they aren't "Voidborns" Centaurs: We are not actually sure if they exist... or are an hybrid of the Shadow Isles Hecarim Dragons: Yes, the Dragons are sentient creatures. Including the Dragon that you kill in Summoners Rift. Some examples of them in the lore are Ebonmaw, the dragon of Zaun, The Father of Shyvana , the killer of the Father of Shyvana, Dragonsharks of Bilgewater, Sea Dragons mentioned in the lore of MonkeyKing , Ao Shin etc.
Golems / Gargoyles: Sentient creatures created by magic or technology Galio Blitzcrank Lizards: The race of the old Red Buff and Grez item 3159 ... they are able to create weapons, lanterns, armors and even use magic.
Celestial Beings: Strange race of Bard and Soraka Darkins: The Race of Aatrox , only 5 of them are alive. Marai: The race of Nami and Sea Hunter Aatrox ... they can grew up legs using magic. Angels: Race of Kayle and Morgana
Minotaurs: Pseudo Extinct race of Alistar Teeneage Mutant Carry Rats: Apparently there is only one Twitch ... but... who knows? Trolls: Summoners that make me rage and a Race from Freljord Trundle
Ursine: Bear people Volibear Yetis: The race of Willump, friend of Nunu Brackern: Crystal insects... scorpions... things... Skarner Manbaconians: An strange race that likes to gamble, eat and drink a lot... the oldest Shopkeeper was one. Unknown name: Race of Fizz Unknown name 2: Race of Rengar Demons: Race of TahmKench ... and maybe other champions. ** ???: ** Race of Jax ** Fae:** Race of Pix, friend of Lulu

gafrattSep 21, 20152 votes

Fizz =Sea yordle

GenoXxSep 21, 20152 votes

Voidlings: Lesser creatures from the Void... yes, they aren't "Voidborns"

Wut..

Ebonmaw DragonSep 22, 20153 votes

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Wut..

The Voidborns are supposed to be ancient and intelligent creatures from the Void... however, the Voidlings that Malzahar summons, or the summoned by the item 3512 aren't intelligent as them or ancient... that is why they don't fit in the same category. Also consider that Riot said that The Void Beasts (Reksai) aren't Voidborns as well. Is like saying that Humans, dogs and Tigers are from the same race just because they all are from the Planet Earth.

GenoXxSep 22, 20151 votes

They come from the same place......

Ebonmaw DragonSep 22, 20153 votes

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They come from the same place......

Humans and Tigers come from the same place as well

Von RevanchistSep 22, 20153 votes

thus both humans and tigers are earthborn

GreenLoreSep 22, 20151 votes

From cho'Gaths lore:

It is rumored that the Voidborn command vast armies of unspeakable creatures on other worlds, that they were once driven from Runeterra by powerful magic lost to antiquity.

This bit implies that voidborn only refers to the strongest beings of the void.Some even debate if RekSai even is a voidborn,or just a really powerful void-monster.

Of course it is possible that they'll retcon this,but thats the only definition of voidborn that we have.

The SoulforgedSep 21, 20151 votes

Nami's race is right on her lore. Her race is known as the Marai.

OshletSep 22, 20152 votes

I believe hecarim was actually a human, but spooky ghost magic gave him a horse body to mow people down with. Maybe he was a well known mounted warrior before he was turned to the shadow isles.

I'm fairly certain Blitz and Galio are one of a kind: Galio was the masterwork of a golem maker who was assassinated and Blitz is a mix of Viktor and Piddly's engineering. I don't think they can really count as a race altogether.

Bard and Soraka are different entities, and soraka is one of a kind, splitting herself from the stars and creating a physical body. I guess that could warrant her to be considered the same as Bard but even then, that's not really enough for a whole race.

I don't think sea hunter aatrox is a Marai, he has legs and Marai have tails.

Considering Tahm is the demon of greed, I don't think he could be considered in having his own race. There are likely many demons, but they're also probably too diverse to count as a single race.

With that being said, I think some non-human non-yordle champions from currently established races would be cool. I myself really want another brackern champion, I mean, gem scorpions. Shit's awesome.

Ebonmaw DragonSep 22, 20152 votes

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1 I believe hecarim was actually a human, but spooky ghost magic gave him a horse body to mow people down with. Maybe he was a well known mounted warrior before he was turned to the shadow isles.

2 I'm fairly certain Blitz and Galio are one of a kind: Galio was the masterwork of a golem maker who was assassinated and Blitz is a mix of Viktor and Piddly's engineering. I don't think they can really count as a race altogether.

3Bard and Soraka are different entities, and soraka is one of a kind, splitting herself from the stars and creating a physical body. I guess that could warrant her to be considered the same as Bard but even then, that's not really enough for a whole race.

4I don't think sea hunter aatrox is a Marai, he has legs and Marai have tails.

5 Considering Tahm is the demon of greed, I don't think he could be considered in having his own race. There are likely many demons, but they're also probably too diverse to count as a single race.

6 With that being said, I think some non-human non-yordle champions from currently established races would be cool. I myself really want another brackern champion, I mean, gem scorpions. Shit's awesome.

Maybe, but you have to consider that, aside from Hecarim, you can see 5 centaur spirits during his ult... yo, if the theory about him being human is true, the same should apply to those spirits.
Galio was made by a golem maker, Right? ... a stone statue of a gargoyle that became alive thanks to magic, so, yeah, its a kind of flying golem. Blitzcrank is a Steam powered golem, created by Viktor thanks to techmaturgy (a kind of magic as well). Both are "Golems"... maybe call them "Race" is wrong since they are artificially created, but you get the point.
Technically speaking, they are both Celestial Beings, maybe a different kind of Celestial Beings, but still.
It was confirmed by Riot that Sea Hunter Aatrox is a from the same race of Nami, but he uses a magical ability to grew up legs or something like that. Here is the post: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/W1smZWIk-can-we-just-make-the-slaughter-fleet-canon-already
The same could be applied to the Voidborns, Chogath is different from Velkoz, but they are from the same "race"
Yeah

OshletSep 22, 20151 votes

Oh, I didn't see that post, thanks for the link mate

Shadowkirby14Sep 22, 20151 votes

Surprised you didn't mention Fiddlesticks Maokai Nocturne Rammus Shaco Zyra

MacilentoSep 22, 20151 votes

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Surprised you didn't mention

yeah ofc we got them too, i just mentioned trundle for reference

Ebonmaw DragonSep 22, 20151 votes

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Surprised you didn't mention

Well, technically Maokai is a kind of... spirit... undead... thing.

Shaco may fall in the category of Demon... maybe

We dont know anything about Nocturne and Fiddle in the new lore... neither about Rammus.

And Zyra... is kinda... a plant....

Radioactive ManSep 21, 20152 votes

Bard is the world guardian, so there are no other beings like him in existence.

BellowsSep 21, 20152 votes

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Bard is the world guardian, so there are no other beings like him in existence.

*Brad is the world guardian. Bard

lofi n chillhopSep 21, 20152 votes

yeah. if you don't wanna take the time to give the story some real flesh, at least give the champion origins consistent so it sorta feels like a real world or universe we're in.the majority of champions feel so random. it's like we're in some arena in the middle of nowhere where people from all across the galaxy are stolen and thrown in together in a bloodbath. that's incredibly grim.

MacilentoSep 21, 20153 votes

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yeah. if you don't wanna take the time to give the story some real flesh, at least give the champion origins consistent so it sorta feels like a real world or universe we're in.the majority of champions feel so random. it's like we're in some arena in the middle of nowhere where people from all across the galaxy are stolen and thrown in together in a bloodbath. that's incredibly grim.

Yeah that's my feeling as well.

I mean you can create original characters even if they have something in common.

All the characters feels stand alone, wich is okay on one half, but on the other half if ALL the characters are like that, the world feels inconsinstent.

We could have i don't know... a troll using some black magic, and it would feel a lot different then trundle but at the same time it would give trundle something to relate to, isntead of feeling relegated somewhere

333lomSep 22, 20152 votes

That's right. Now that I think of it, a troll that uses black magic would be very interesting, and that wouldn't make Trundle feel less original. It would actually give him debth, because only when he's compared to other members of his race, his characteristics stand out even more.

MacilentoSep 22, 20152 votes

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That's right. Now that I think of it, a troll that uses black magic would be very interesting, and that wouldn't make Trundle feel less original. It would actually give him debth, because only when he's compared to other members of his race, his characteristics stand out even more.

Yes that's the whole point :)

333lomSep 22, 20152 votes

I'll post a scribble of a troll that uses dark magic in the Champion Concepts now. Maybe it can get people to discuss the idea.

333lomSep 22, 20152 votes

in some arena in the middle of nowhere where people from all across the galaxy are stolen and thrown in together in a bloodbath

Battleworld

But yes I agree, if Riot prizes itself as trying to "flesh out the world" after that damn Retcon, they should give up the reasoning "only one representative of less important races" because they'd look similar. With enough imagination, they could make dozen of different characters from the same race.

ShénzhìSep 21, 20152 votes

There's many races in Runeterra world. Not keen on seeing any more. :p

If Willump the Yeti became a Troll ... updated with Trundle the Troll King; imma play Nunu more. :p

Ebonmaw DragonSep 21, 20153 votes

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There's many races in Runeterra world. Not keen on seeing any more. :p

If Nunu the Yeti became Nunu the Troll ... updated with Trundle the Troll King; imma play Nunu more. :p

Nunu is not a Yeti, Willump is a yeti

ShénzhìSep 21, 20151 votes

I remembered it as Nunu. :/

Ebonmaw DragonSep 21, 20152 votes

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I remembered it as Nunu. :/

Read his lore then.

As unlikely a pair as anyone could find, Nunu and Willump relied on courage and tenacity to drive them through countless troubles in the Freljord. The boy and his Yeti-

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Nunu/Background

SharjoSep 21, 20152 votes

To add to this so people can get a good idea for fantasy racial representation in League, we have the following in order champion representation:

Over 60 Humans including not so human ones like Nautilus and Shyvana
11 Yordles
5 Voidborn of varying species, with a sixth being an in game npc
4 Ascended
2 Whatever the fuck Kayle and Morgana's angelic race is called (They've never been called angels as far as I remember, may be remembering wrong)
1 Brackern (I'm still counting them dammit!)
1 Darkin with four more existing...somewhere
1 Demon with the potential for some already existing champions to also be demons
1 Iceborn with the ghost of one being an in game npc
1 Fae who acts as a companion to another champion
1 Marai
1 Minotaur
1 Troll
1 Ursine
1 Whatever the fuck Fizz's people are called
0 Frozen Watchers but who knows? Maybe one comes in the future?

Looking at these in more depth we can see that for the majority of these races, including the various voidborn species, their only champion representation is from individuals of great significance in the grand scheme of things, as we see Nami being the last hope of the Marai, Volibear and Trundle being the leaders of their people, Lissandra being the last of her kind and a grand scheming mastermind of the Frozen Watcher's will, Aatrox and Tahm Kench being of significant impact to human history in multiple instances, Skarner being the only member of his kind living on the surface, Fizz potentially being the last of his kind, Alistar being famous for escaping the clutches of Noxus and so on.

Going by this idea, new champions of these races would have to be individuals of great importance to their species, their nation or just for some reason in general. Because of the story surrounding some of the races some species, such as the Marai, the Brackern, the Iceborn and "whatever the fuck Fizz's people are called" are less likely to get new champions, but for others? Well let's examine:

We have 4 Ascended, two originating from Shurima's collapse and reestablishment, and two from ancient Shurima. That leaves however many other Ascended might also exist in the world, which while it's probably not a high number it's still high enough their's champion material in there somewhere!
We have 1 Darkin, and there are four more we don't know about. Of all the Darkin three are known to human history in some way including Aatrox, so if we see new Darkin they're more likely to be those two who've been active during the last few thousand years.
We have 5 Voidborn champions, six named Voidborn in game, and seven species of Voidborn over all. We'll almost certainly see more of these guys, but probably not of the same species. With the possible exception of Kog'maw's father of course.
Minotaurs, Ursine and Trolls are repped by only one champion each, and there's the potential for more, the problem is silhouettes; pretty similar looking in body shape right? Not the best excuse though considering how weird and varied champions can get, but it's one major factor when considering designing champs for these races; how do you make them more than just another Volibear, Alistar or Trundle in all departments, including gameplay, character, lore, visuals, everything.
Iceborn are mostly extinct so the likelyhood of getting more than Lissandra is debatable at best.
Frozen Watchers aren't repped in the game yet but the potential exists depending on how things pan out in Freljord.
Fae might be a bit too small to be champions? I dunno. We don't know much about those guys.
Demons have so much going for them right now considering they're not only varied by species but probably have the most varied physical appearances of any race of beings in Runeterra. I recon we'll have a good chance of seeing more demons in the future, or having old champions revealed to be actual demons.

So lots of species, lots of ground I'd personally love to see explored more, but also the big caviat of how do you make these guys more than just another (insert champion here) especially for the races that likely have little variation in appearance like Brackern and Ursine.

In conclusion: Riot! There's some among us who'd love to see more members of already existing races in Runeterra!

GreenLoreSep 21, 20152 votes

Actually we might have 2 iceborn in the game,since Braum could be iceborn(his lore implies that he has lived for centuries now)

Overall I think the chance of getting more iceborn is similar to the chance of getting more ascended,I mean yeah a lot of iceborn are dead,but there could be still survivors.

SharjoSep 21, 20151 votes

I'm still not keen on saying Braum's an iceborn but I won't dispute the chance for other survivors, that's for sure.

I'd really love more Ascended though. I kinda want a rhino one specifically cuz rhinos are awesome.

What races would you like to see more represented in game, if any Green?

MacilentoSep 21, 20151 votes

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I'm still not keen on saying Braum's an iceborn but I won't dispute the chance for other survivors, that's for sure.

I'd really love more Ascended though. I kinda want a rhino one specifically cuz rhinos are awesome.

What races would you like to see more represented in game, if any Green?

i'll take that.

First of all Trolls, because trolls are awsome, every damn fantasy games had trolls in his own merit, and they have lot of potential overall, even in LoL

Then i want NEW races. When i say more races i mean i want more then 1 champion for that group.

Other Rengar like creatures would be great too

lofi n chillhopSep 22, 20151 votes

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i'll take that.

First of all Trolls, because trolls are awsome, every damn fantasy games had trolls in his own merit, and they have lot of potential overall, even in LoL

Then i want NEW races. When i say more races i mean i want more then 1 champion for that group.

Other Rengar like creatures would be great too

yes, we only have like humans and yordles that are the "lore races" I feel like there should be 4 or even five main races that get a lot of champions. obviousy that won't happen next patch release unless they decide to merge races. oh, there is voidborn apparently? five of them? I do not know I can only think of reksai but someone said she isn't voidborn? IDK. but the point is, that I feel they should start focussing on perhaps the voidborn or perhaps the celestial beings or perhaps the angels to give two or three or :o four :o more races 10+ representation by the time we have half as many more champs. long game plan, but it would certainly give me reason to be dedicated to their game :)

RalanrSep 22, 20151 votes

Rengar what the hell is his race anyway?

Are they advanced enough to have a tool based civilization, or are they wild animals and he just got taught stuff by his adoptive father?

Is Kumungu jungle home to an empire of Aztec Cat People? (Do we have a representation of Aztec yet? If not then my question still stands)

MacilentoSep 22, 20151 votes

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what the hell is his race anyway?

Are they advanced enough to have a tool based civilization, or are they wild animals and he just got taught stuff by his adoptive father?

Is Kumungu jungle home to an empire of Aztec Cat People? (Do we have a representation of Aztec yet? If not then my question still stands)

Dunno but would be cool to have more of that

GreenLoreSep 21, 20152 votes

While most of these races are probably going to be represented through only one champ,I think they can expand upon Nami , Fizz & Khazix races.I mean there are many unique things in the deep sea that could be a base for another member of the marai or fizzs species(like a seawitch or an anglerfish-man) and Kha'zixs race is based around evolving depending on what you eat,so it wouldn't be off for them to look vastly different.

Skarner s brackern(if they still exist) could also look quite different from each other,so there could be also a second one of them.

TrylobyteSep 22, 20152 votes

I'm of the opinion that League has too many one-off races already and doesn't need any more. What it does need, if you want to diversify the cast, is fleshing out of the races it already has. Races that have only one representative of their kind in the lore whatsoever, two if they're lucky, don't really add anything to the lore other than say 'These people exist.'

Consider the following: Aatrox Ahri Alistar Anivia Fiddlesticks Fizz Galio Lissandra Malphite Maokai Nami Nocturne Nunu Rammus Rengar Skarner TahmKench Trundle Twitch MonkeyKing Volibear Zac Zyra

These are all champions that are the only one of their race to have any significance whatsoever to the story as it stands now. For some of them that's explained (Rammus is an in-universe mystery, Fizz is the last of his kind, Twitch was an accident, ZAC was an experiment) but others, we know there are more of them out there but they're just not important (Volibear, Nami, Trundle are leaders of races, Willump isn't the only yeti, Aatrox is one of five). There's plenty of material out there without adding more races.

lofi n chillhopSep 22, 20151 votes

And IMO even the one-of champions have some sort of history that could be brought up. I'm sure twitch had friends before his accident, and family. and who was the experimenter that created zac? I think I saw someone mention that blitz was a golem created by viktor... that's pretty cool. I'd like to see more of that kinda thing with these "one-of's". I think, that if riot focused on their new champions for the next year or two, to only be from pre-existing stories, that would be really cool, would much more greatly improve their story and world than more random races/representations, and would have so much depth for them to explore. because there IS so much depth potential already with the existing characters, that we just DONT KNOW YET >:(

Vincent LuciusSep 22, 20152 votes

If I'm remembering correctly Zac was made by Zaunite scientists who ran away with him after they saw that he was exhibiting behavior similar to a child of some sort rather than a mindless obedient mass. They ran off with him and raised him like their own son afterwards but he was originally designed as a weapon, thus the quote, "I was made for this... literally."

I'm not sure about Blitzcrank. I think his lore was one that connected his creator to the rest of the world nicely in that there was a controversy over who got the credit for him, but I can't recall who it was that made him.

NegaDKRSep 23, 20151 votes

Viktor was his creator, but a rival scientist named Stanwick Piddly took credit for Blitzcranks creation, which caused Viktor to transform himself into what he is now.

MacilentoSep 23, 20151 votes

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Viktor was his creator, but a rival scientist named Stanwick Piddly took credit for Blitzcranks creation, which caused Viktor to transform himself into what he is now.

cool !

Ebonmaw DragonSep 23, 20151 votes

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Viktor was his creator, but a rival scientist named Stanwick Piddly took credit for Blitzcranks creation, which caused Viktor to transform himself into what he is now.

Actually, Stanwick wasnt his "rival", it was his "teacher".

MacilentoSep 24, 20151 votes

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Actually, Stanwick wasnt his "rival", it was his "teacher".

didn'tknow that

GenoXxSep 21, 20151 votes

I'm fairly convinced that there's elves in Runeterra also. Evelynn

LaoBushidoSep 22, 20151 votes

Fizz is the last ( that we know of) of his race. Nami , trundle and volibear are the only ones of their race (so far) that are worth becoming champions it's not that there aren't other races it's just that they don't stand out just like their lawn more humans And yourdlez out there . I think riot Said the next two releases would focus more on the spiritual said the next two releases would focus more around the spiritual aspect of valoraen what other races do you have in mind also Bard and saraka are the same type of being

MacilentoSep 22, 20152 votes

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Fizz is the last ( that we know of) of his race. Nami , trundle and volibear are the only ones of their race (so far) that are worth becoming champions it's not that there aren't other races it's just that they don't stand out just like their lawn more humans And yourdlez out there . I think riot Said the next two releases would focus more on the spiritual said the next two releases would focus more around the spiritual aspect of valoraen what other races do you have in mind also Bard and saraka are the same type of being

I don't kniow, they can surely come up with new races. Every fantasy game has different races with different heroes. It should be the same for Lol to give consistency to the world

lofi n chillhopSep 22, 20151 votes

OMG imagine a second of fizz's kind turning up out of nowehere and being all like "you are not alone" :O :O :O :O that'd be really cool omg!

FloRaider42Sep 22, 20151 votes

What's wrong with having one or two main races with various factions and corresponding heroes and the remaining races being represented by singular heroes ? Isn't that how most/if not all games do it anyway ?

MacilentoSep 22, 20151 votes

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What's wrong with having one or two main races with various factions and corresponding heroes and the remaining races being represented by singular heroes ? Isn't that how most/if not all games do it anyway ?

nope, all fantasy games have many heroes for each faction

FloRaider42Sep 22, 20152 votes

I'd like to hear about a game where one race, that isn't part of a faction / or divided by factions, has multiple different heroes. Because frankly I can't seem to remember one :(

FloRaider42Sep 22, 20151 votes

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nope, all fantasy games have many heroes for each faction

Checked through all my games and still didn't find a single one that fits the bill :( Can you tell me which games you meant ? I'd like to see for myself