Something Is Coming II (Probably not) [Speculations]

Vartius··16 votes·1,332 views

"A King stays in the mist... And another one marches." - Swain to any Shadow Islian (Ruined king stays in the mist, Mordekaiser Marches)

"Now, the Grand General marches against a coming darkness that only he can see." - Swain's bio.

"If you take me, you'll leave Noxus with something much worse" - Swain to Kindred.

"In particular, his attention is drawn to the Immortal Bastion, that mighty fortress that now acts as the capital city of the upstart empire called Noxus.

A new era of darkness beckons." - Mordekaiser's lore.

... Wink wink? https://i.imgur.com/O6Sy3rC.png

28 Comments

Jinx Hunter10 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Superb Villain,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Ie2Vl6lO,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-01-25T06:07:32.990+0000)

Plot twist:

https://i.imgur.com/QdcvzoT.jpg?noredirect

I think the punch line for that joke is a little short.... [sg-lulu]

A Superb Villain1 votes

You're reaching for low-hanging fruit.

Blaiz Fenix1 votes

Yeah that's what I surmised as well but Mord doesn't really have the means to do anything yet considering he can't leave the Shadow Isles and he has no more necromancers.

Vartius10 votes

Where did you get the info that he doesn't have necromancers or that he can't leave shadow isles?

He can leave shadow isles, as stated in his lore - He is not bound by mist, he is too poweful for that. And he still has his liches.

And most importantly - Harrowing right now is no longer tied to halloween, so it can happen at any moment. That being said nothing will happen in near future. ... If anything it will take another year - untill Mordekaiser rework.

Blaiz Fenix2 votes

It's a given. The only reason Mordekaiser kept coming back was the necromancers. Once they were gone, he stopped coming back. The Ruination and subsequent Black Mist is what keeps all the Shadow Isles champions, sans Yorick and Maokai, alive and they can't leave it.

Even his story his is covered with the mist, as it replaces his need for necromancers. And yes the Harrowing is not tied to Halloween but it's not a monthly occurance and still only stretches to Bilgewater.

Johnny El Rojo1 votes

It not stretchs only to Bilgewater. It's said to have appeared in Ionia and the coasts of Valoran and Shurima.

Malicious Metal13 votes

False.

Morde's reincarnation is bound to his BONES. The Necromancers are soulbound Liches that cannot be killed until Morde is truly destroyed.

The only reason he was banished is because his skull was missing and they couldn't resurrect him.

Morde can move freely outside the Mist but he's currently growing more powerful within it since it provides him with nigh-endless amounts of necromantic energies and fresh souls for his army.

Vartius6 votes

He didn't stop coming because of the liches. His skull was stolen. Read the lore again. He needed a full skeleton to be reborn, but his skull was taken away and hidden in blessed isles, where his liches couldn't reach it. He was reborn after the ruination because the explosion destroyed the vault where his skull was hidden. So his necromancers/liches are still there.

"Years rolled into decades, decades to centuries, until a cataclysm was unleashed upon the Blessed Isles. A king whose mind had been ruined by grief and madness unleashed a terrible spell that condemned the isles to darkness, turning them into a twisted realm of the undying - the Shadow Isles. During that great sorcerous explosion, the vaults securing Mordekaiser's skull were torn asunder. _ Drawn like moths to a flame, Mordekaiser's liches made their way to the newly born Shadow Isles. They bore with them their master's bones, and digging his skull from the ruins, were finally able to unleash him upon the world once more."_

His only relation to the mist it that it grands him more power, but he is able to leave it: _ "Unlike the lesser spirits, Mordekaiser is not bound by the Black Mist - he is too powerful for that - yet its baleful energy grants him considerable power. For now at least, the Shadow Isles serves as the perfect place to build his strength."_

Wert the Wacky1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blaiz Fenix,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Ie2Vl6lO,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-25T00:00:41.206+0000)

It's a given. The only reason Mordekaiser kept coming back was the necromancers. Once they were gone, he stopped coming back. The Ruination and subsequent Black Mist is what keeps all the Shadow Isles champions, sans Yorick and Maokai, alive and they can't leave it.

Even his story his is covered with the mist, as it replaces his need for necromancers. And yes the Harrowing is not tied to Halloween but it's not a monthly occurance and still only stretches to Bilgewater.

They can all leave the mist. Elise lives in Noxus, Kalista collects oaths, and Thresh collects souls.

Blaiz Fenix1 votes

Yeah I posted about Kalista specifically asking why she can, and Elise was not born from the Ruination, but the others cannot. That's why they only appear during the Harrowing. Possibly yorick because of the cloak.

Wert the Wacky1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blaiz Fenix,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Ie2Vl6lO,comment-id=00000000000000030000,timestamp=2018-01-25T03:23:24.824+0000)

Yeah I posted about Kalista specifically asking why she can, and Elise was not born from the Ruination, but the others cannot. That's why they only appear during the Harrowing. Possibly yorick because of the cloak.

I’m pretty sure Yorick can because of the waters of life in his pendant.

Lord Phazanor 1 votes

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Where did you get the info that he doesn't have necromancers or that he can't leave shadow isles?

He can leave shadow isles, as stated in his lore - He is not bound by mist, he is too poweful for that. And he still has his liches.

And most importantly - Harrowing right now is no longer tied to halloween, so it can happen at any moment. That being said nothing will happen in near future. ... If anything it will take another year - untill Mordekaiser rework.

Don't mention it too much, I might not be able to take it anymore.

BestJhinUniverse1 votes

I wonder if mordekaiser and the ruined king have had any interactions, be it brief conversation or even a duel of some kind.

This could get spicy, I like it. Hopefully riot does something.

Vartius4 votes

They might have had one, but Ruined King is consumed by grief and madness over his wife's death, so not like he could be of any real threat/usefulness to Mordekaiser.

Blaiz Fenix1 votes

Not 100% sure but I think the 2 souls in Twisted Treeline altars are the king and queen.

Johnny El Rojo1 votes

That seems to be the most popular theory about the darkness.

Vartius1 votes

Yeah, for once it's not only me overanalyzing something to hope Morde rework will be announced. (And with that hopefully Noxus vs Shadow Isles event.)

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

I think that Swain is actually talking about more than just the shadow isles.

Interaction with Bilgewater champions: "They fight the mist above the seas... Never looking beneath."

This quote is probably aimed towards the void. We know that there is a void rift in the ocean, the reason why Nami has to find Diana to get a moon stone. He actually kinda even belittles the black mist here, like there is a bigger threat than the undead which the people of Bilgewater completely overlook.

Mordepool1 votes

Kinda bugs me they gave Swain plot armor levels of insight against Mordekaisers inevitable Assault on Noxus.

General Esdeath 1 votes

I assume Swain is talking about the void invsion tbh

CaptainAntiHeroz1 votes

Just waiting for the Lucian and Vayne team up.... Cuz if Morde comes you've gotta get the best in the business xD

nelogis1 votes

I think both of them would just "nope" out of there the instant they see Mordekaiser and his army of liches ^^

But I think Lucians guns aren't that effective against Morde right? Aren't they designed to hurt shadow isles stuff?

CaptainAntiHeroz1 votes

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I think both of them would just "nope" out of there the instant they see Mordekaiser and his army of liches ^^

But I think Lucians guns aren't that effective against Morde right? Aren't they designed to hurt shadow isles stuff?

It's more "undead" that they hurt but Morde being as he is it might not be effective

And I'm pretty sure that the "Good guy" that Lucian is would attempt to fend off Morde And as far as Vayne, I'm pretty sure her hatred for his kind in general would lead her to try to kill him "Purge with Silver" style

Plus that'd be an awesome team up....

nelogis1 votes

Don't know about Lucian

his emotions might get the better of him if he realizes that he may die without saving his wife.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Glad I'm not the only one thinking about a Morde x Swain rivalry.

Stars Shaper1 votes

I think that Swain refers to the Black Rose except for the Mist quote which is obviously a reference ot Morde.

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