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The Harrowing: Success and Failure

Neamean·11/1/2015, 7:28:53 PM·37 votes·7,307 views

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#Success:

**The Lore ** Riot did good for the lore it was phenomenal it was did on time and it expand the lore beyond just the Harrowing, it gave us the origin of many shadow isle's champs

#Failure:

The Skins They should of open the vault on the previous Harrowing skin with each chapter of the Lore so it would of been available before Halloween Oct. 31 and Dead of the dead Nov.1-2 for others.

#The Harrowing: The Harrowing is a different kind of event it is the one that is mostly tied to the lore of Runeterra, unlike Pool Party or Lunar Revel which are seasonal and releases new skins. People are saying Riot don't care and I just don't agree they do care they given lore which is something a lot of summoner been wanting but they did fail or should I say fumble with the other half of the event which is the skin and seasonal aspect. No matter how hard the try the can't please everybody but I be lying if I say they can't do it any better.

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To all the people who are say "RIot you have Fail this Community" they did not really. Riot is like the parent and we are the children they just more focus one Lore sibling then Skins sibling. Which I think is acceptable because harrowing is the only annual lore event. So it's nice the lore people has more attention but that doesn't mean completely neglecting the Skin child.

#TL;DR

Yes the lore was great and yes the skin vault should of been open earlier but we should not just disregard their effort, you can complain because that how they know what they did wrong and be better for the next event but don't just say they don't care.

49 Comments

Kat Head11/1/2015, 8:00:37 PM41 votes

Riot basically hid the fact that the harrowing would be postponed or no longer held on relevant dates behind the curtain of the pbe where very few could protest the ignorance of the decision. This was a very disingenuous move on Riots part and deserves all of the criticism it has garnered.

When customers are complaining, smart companies listen and respond.

Where is the response ?

Did no one from Riot open the boards at all this weekend ?

Smart companies actually consider what there customer likes and tailors the product to them. Not Riot though, Riot goes out of the way to hide the fact they will not be doing a harrowing at the appropriate time. This is not the first time Riot has done this, they do it all of the time with base splash arts they already know the community will hate.

Why even make something you know your customers will dislike ?

Why antagonize your customers ?

What can be gained from it ?

Tuesday the entirety of Summoners Rift could be covered in pumpkins and spooky stuff and IT WILL NOT MATTER, to little to late.

Riot should at least open the vault for the people who do not have certain skins they want from the past. I was going to pick up Kitty cat on a couple accounts I do not have it on (because I am stupid, I already know supporting Riot is dumb), now I think I will pass.

Riot you ruined Halloween / Harrowing this year, learn from your mistakes and do not do the same at Christmass.

Your customers expect more from you Riot, you were better than this in the past.

You can be better than this again.

What happened to the old Riot, the company that would hang out on the forums with the customer. The company that loved holidays and making cool skins. The company that was not so big that the little guy did not matter. I miss those guys, I want them back. There are plenty of big evil corporation gaming companies out there and Riot is currently one of them, it does not have to be this way though. Think back to who you were, get back to doing what you once did when the forums loved you and the game was young and fresh.

Ignore this rant and rants like it and Malphite you will lose.

QXiqW8fJli11/1/2015, 11:27:10 PM12 votes

What effort? Point me to that thread where a Riot employee explain what's happening or at the very least respond to 1 of the 10 posts about it.

My thinking, It's not important to Korea and China, so why would they care. They might have started here but the money is coming from these regions now.

1000% guaranteed that they won't skip Chinese new year while they will trow a wall of text at us, excuse me..lore, for Christmas.

Pathetic really.

Ralanr11/1/2015, 7:30:49 PM7 votes

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**All I'm saying is don't discount their effort, you can complain because that how they know what they did wrong and be better for the next event but don't just say they don't care. **

Thank you!

Xulsigae11/1/2015, 9:57:07 PM6 votes

I'm not even sure the Lore did what it should have. The writing itself was nice and the details it provided about the world were appreciated, but it didn't actually move the story along. Nothing really happened. The status quo didn't change.

iKhoality11/1/2015, 10:37:25 PM5 votes

Something that I noticed, no Harrowing/Halloween ward skins... ;(

Rose99711/2/2015, 12:33:09 AM3 votes

riot really screwed us on this one

John Berserk11/2/2015, 1:31:23 AM3 votes

I think people are giving Riot a lot more flack than they deserve honestly. Yes I agree they should have at the very least opened the Halloween skin vault, and I also personally feel the halloween skins this year were VERY meh, but I don't think that's cause for the vast angry mob that just sprung up suddenly.

The way I see it, Riot kind of wants to have The Harrowing be a PURELY lore event, and have Halloween be a separate time to release Halloween-themed skins. That's why they said they want the Harrowing to be able to be held any time of the year, because honestly, having Worlds, the Harrowing, AND Halloween all going on at the same time as three separate 'events' would be kind of a mess.

I think what Riot needs to do is, change the LCS and Worlds schedule so that it DOESN'T interfere with other events. That way it doesn't take away from those who just don't care about it.

Also, plan the Harrowing to maybe LEAD UP TO the Halloween-themed content, so that way there's still some correlation there.

Maybe then we can all get our cake and eat it too.

SKG Blue11/2/2015, 10:35:47 AM3 votes

I thought Brand, Kassadin, and Vi all got Halloween skins? Then we were getting 3 more after Worlds... That's 6 skins right there. You can debate they're not Halloween skins, but I mean, Kassadin and Vi are technically them cosplaying and Brand has... um... blue? Spoooooooooky xD

poopta11/2/2015, 6:42:04 PM2 votes

Who gives a shit about the lore if I wanted to read a book I'd go to the library

Stars Shaper11/2/2015, 10:42:38 AM2 votes

Honestly the Lore has been a major downfall too in my opinion:

The story was spooky, yes. But the main characters should have been the SI champions and how they wrecked havoc and terror upon the ppl of Bilgewater and the struggle of them to stay alive. What we got was another huge spotlight for Miss Fortune and the incoming champion Illaoi with the help of Lucian and Olaf. MF's right hand had more place in the story than Mordekaiser (who didn't even show up) who should have been the warlord of the invasion. All we got was "the cool guys will stay cool". Plus there have been no eye candy content nor an atmospheric music background during the reading. It has been (in terms of quality) a "Bilgewater 0.0.1" event.

I was really hyped about the Harrowing considering how the new Bios where well written and gave justice and dept to the characters involved. But then Riot had to strike back with a great disappointing event.

violatedillusion11/2/2015, 8:11:09 PM1 votes

Lets be completely fair here, harrowing isn't even an event anymore. It's just a time when rito decides to release halloween costumes and thats just about it. This year they did something different, they released 4 chapters worth of useless words that made up some boloni story that basically serves no purpose. If those chapters would have actually made my game play more fun, then I would call this "EVENT" harrowing. unfortunately it doesnt even come close to anything. If we should be calling it something, it should be called: failure. But hey, at this point im not surprised by any of this. rito has failed time and time again to pay special attention to the things that their customer pool really wants to enjoy. It all boils down to the idiots who run the show, and man there are some whoppers at riot.

sp44111/2/2015, 4:05:32 AM1 votes

I'm just upset that all this drama about skins overshadowed the actual story, which was great.

SoQuiche11/2/2015, 4:08:32 AM1 votes

Please read over your post before posting it, thanks :p.

Carnage11/2/2015, 7:53:25 AM1 votes

I like to have them at the same time the skins help hype the lore and make me read it but a boring af game mode then no skins . just makes the lore lame to me . this might just be me.

Silver Fluffenbu11/2/2015, 5:42:02 PM1 votes

Lore. Skins. Both are great, but I what I wanted was a few jack-o-lanterns scattered about Summoners' Rift and, if I really got my hopes up, Hexakill or some other mode to make the spooky Twisted Treeline a more frequented and festive place. A spooky log in screen, some spooky icons and wards, maybe a sound effect here and there. It's not Skins vs. Lore, it's all the little details coming together to create something larger. An immersion in festivities.

I hardly noticed the Harrowing at all. I was aware there was lore, but with nothing else to ramp up my excitement, I felt no particular want to read it from a neutral state of mind.

Toxin Flush11/2/2015, 7:00:00 PM1 votes

It's annoying that the forum moderators don't address this issue what so ever. But digging around on the pbe notes i found this.

"[NOTE: It's coming up a lot but expect the returning seasonal legacy content and the new Zombie/Slayer skins & icons to be available sometime after 5.21 goes to live. While those are the seasonal content for this year, they are not related directly to this story!!]"

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/10/shadow-and-fortune_27.html#more

so legacy will be available sometime on patch 5.21.