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UnboundHades11 voteswhy do you think he can fly?
CasterGilgamesh2 voteshis recall mostly when hes not alone with zaya he just sorta jumps and poofs into feathers i just assume its him needing to leap into the air to start flying also hes a bird....with a gaint wing
UnboundHades2 voteshe just jumps really high both xayah and rakan cant fly.
Chembaron Yamada5 votesHe is jumping, not flying. Look at Warwicks recall, same stuff. He jumps just high to the sky and lands at fountain.
Ralanr11 votes"No. Jump good."
Chembaron Yamada1 votesOk, I never saw Samurai Jack and therefore had no idea about this quote and had to look it up. Now I am fully convinced that I have to watch that stuff. Thank you.
Ralanr1 votesYou're welcome. Foolish Samurai.
GreenLore8 votesIt's simple: He can't fly at all.
Not sure why you'd think he can fly.
Sharjo7 votesIndeed. He can jump and leap certainly, but neither Xayah or Rakan can fly. Potentially no Lhotlan can.
GreenLore2 votesYeah I doubt that any Llothan can fly(and if one of them could,then it would likely be quite exceptional),after all the vastaya page even lists several tribes as "tribes of the sky",which likely covers the flying vastaya races and the Llothans aren't one of them.
Sharjo4 votesIndeed. Bird vastaya =/= flying vastaya.
Grimm Howl1 votesPersonally, I'd just refer to them as raptor vastaya.
Sharjo1 votesConsidering they've got fox traits does that work?
Grimm Howl1 votesWell, the color scheme of Rakan and Xayah's feathers look similar to the Raptors on the Rift. Our modern day birds are the descendants of raptors and other large dinosaurs, so I figured Raptor Vastaya gave more indication they they are flightless, rather than how vague "bird" can be.
What do you mean be fox traits? Their long feathered ears?
Sharjo2 votesLhotlan take the features of birds and foxes, not just birds, so figured raptor wouldn't work for a descriptor since there's mammal mixed in there.
Grimm Howl1 votesOh, I did not know that. Haha, thanks Sharjo. :3 I'm still reading through all of the Vastayan lore on the universe pages.
In that case though, does bird work?
Jeddy0172 votesNow I wait for Penguin skins for Rak & Xay.
GreenLore1 votesThis kinda reminds me of the High entia from Xenoblade chronicles. They are basically long lived people with angel wings that grow out of their head.
Naturally they don't fly.....except for that one character in a side quest(its appearantly explained by an NPC that being able to fly with these wings is similar to humans who can move their ears)
ModAcademy Kayn4 votesThat's not flying, it's falling in style.
DrCyanide3 votesSame way Xayah does, by holding tightly to their lover (who has the opposite wing).
OurLestrade3 votesNot very well?
Agan Mardrus3 votesthere's this wonderful thing in runeterra called "MAGIC"
it works a bit like crack except everyone else can see and feel it too and it doesn't (usually) have horrible detrimental mental aftereffects
Nylisa2 votespart of this one-wing idea, was to show how he and Xayah complete each other if you watch the cinematic trailers at the end of one of them when they hold each other it appears that their wings create one bird. kinda lore related too.
RogueWill2 votesisn't it obviously a cape?
Çhåryzård1 votesNeither of them can fly, they aren't actually birds. It's not part of him that's just his cape.
Psyrix1 votesNeither of them can fly, they aren't actually birds. It's not part of him that's just his cape.
The wings are part of them, they use magic and the l'l hoodie scarf to mkae them seem more cloak like in order to blend in with humans. But the wings are very much part of them
Çhåryzård1 votesThe wings are part of them, they use magic and the l'l hoodie scarf to mkae them seem more cloak like in order to blend in with humans. But the wings are very much part of them
I've asked this question on the boards before and I'm pretty sure a Rioter told me it's just part of their outfit, but they are able to change their appearance at will with magic.
Like how in that one story Rakan contemplates changing the color of his cape to something else. Their entire outfit is "part of them", they can manipulate their appearance to whatever they wan't. It's not physically coming out of his body though.
HalfTangible1 votesYa think the whole reason they're young and attractive is that they want to turn each other on?
Çhåryzård1 votesYa think the whole reason they're young and attractive is that they want to turn each other on?
They do actually have ages, I think Rakan is around 27 and Xayah is around 23 if I remember right (it's around those numbers)
They could make themselves ugly if they wanted to but I mean if you had the power to change your appearance at will to whatever you want I think most people would make themselves attractive XD
HalfTangible2 votesHonestly I'd probably go with whichever form is easiest to maintain about 90% of the time.
Which leads me to think, being good lookin' and fit is really hard. So maybe they put in the extra effort for the other. Like they're constantly putting on their fancy dinner date outfits (metaphorically speaking) when they're together.
I dunno, i thought it was cute =3
GreenLore4 votesI found the thread where you asked this question and the rioter in it clarified that the "cloaks" are part of their bodies. They could shapeshift them to resemble other clothes if they wanted to,but it would require time and magic to do that.
Çhåryzård1 votesVastaya must have a physical form (unlike a true spirit) but they can change this form pretty severely-- provided they have access to enough magic, are well rested, and have some free time
Rakan has a cloak, because he likes cloaks and he's traveling in human lands. He could make it into wings or a shiny tuxedo if he liked-- but it would wear him out until he got used to the shape. It's likely that Rakan would NOT be able to make his appearence something that wasn't colorful and loud-- because his personality forces itself upon his shape-- and a drab exterior would be painful for him.
Part of them in that they are spirits and require a physical form, not part of them that they actually have long feathers growing out of their flesh.
They aren't physically coming out of their bodies. They are spirits and require a physical form and can take on any form they wish, part of the form they take is the clothing they are wearing. They conjure that along with whatever form they take on. So yes the clothing is part of them, but the long feathers in their cloaks aren't physically growing out of their bodies. It's clothing that they made.
GreenLore2 votesThey aren't spirits.
In that very quote you posted he says that they must have a physical form "unlike true spirits",meaning they aren't real spirits.
And the fact that they can change the shape of their "cloak" means that it is indeed part of their body-
Çhåryzård1 votesThey aren't spirits.
In that very quote you posted he says that they must have a physical form "unlike true spirits",meaning they aren't real spirits.
And the fact that they can change the shape of their "cloak" means that it is indeed part of their body-
Idk if you're understanding me.
I'm not saying it's not part of them.
I'm saying they don't have long feathers physically growing out of their flesh.
GreenLore1 votesThe Vastaya can only shapeshift their physical bodies,so for that "cloak" to be considered part of his body,it would need to actually grow out of his back.
I mean look at nami for example,her scales look like clothing on her upper body,but they are still connected to it.
Çhåryzård1 votesThey can shapeshift their clothing too, not just their bodies. Rioter confirmed that too.
Rakan has a cloak, because he likes cloaks and he's traveling in human lands. He could make it into wings or a shiny tuxedo if he liked-- but it would wear him out until he got used to the shape
If he wanted to he could be wearing a tuxedo, and that isn't going to be growing out of his skin lol. It's clothing. He chooses to have the cloak, he doesn't have to have it if he doesn't want to. When he's around humans he opts to have the cloak. It's not actually growing out of him, it's a part of his outfit that he chooses to have.
They are magic. They can change their clothing with magic just like they can change their bodies. It doesn't have to be physically part of their skin for them to change it.
GreenLore1 votesDuring the Rakan&Xayah Q&A WAAAARGHbobo clarified that they are merely wings who are shaped like cloaks:
Those aren't really cloaks on Xayah and Rakan-- they have changed their bodies to look like human clothes."
He merely shapeshifts his wing/feathers to look like that,he could also make it look like a tuxedo,but that Tuxedo would still be part of his body. Think of Mystique from the X-Men movies,who can shapeshift into others and actually mimic their clothing,but said clothing is still part of her actual body.
Çhåryzård1 votesDuring the Rakan&Xayah Q&A WAAAARGHbobo clarified that they are merely wings who are shaped like cloaks:
He merely shapeshifts his wing/feathers to look like that,he could also make it look like a tuxedo,but that Tuxedo would still be part of his body. Think of Mystique from the X-Men movies,who can shapeshift into others and actually mimic their clothing,but said clothing is still part of her actual body.
Yes but if he made them into a tuxedo the tuxedo wouldn't be melded to his flesh.
It'd be clothes.
I'm not saying they aren't part of them I'm saying they are wearing them as clothes as opposed to growing gigantic feathers out of their flesh.
Not only would it be disgusting, their movement in game is not realistic if that is the case. Their feathers would be nowhere near as flexible or pliable and would not display the movement in game if they were actually growing out of their back.
I agree that they are part of them but not physically growing out of their shoulders. If they wanted to make them into the wings then yea, they'd be growing out of their backs, but to have just long feathers growing out of their muscle and flesh makes no sense.
GreenLore1 votesI don't see how "part of their body" doesn't equal "grows out of their back",I mean how could they be part of their body,when they aren't physically connected to the body? :/ I mean they can even move these cloaks and grow feathers out of them.
Of course they wouldn't have the same bone structure inside as regular birds.
Çhåryzård1 votesI don't see how "part of their body" doesn't equal "grows out of their back",I mean how could they be part of their body,when they aren't physically connected to the body? :/ I mean they can even move these cloaks and grow feathers out of them.
Of course they wouldn't have the same bone structure inside as regular birds.
How can a tuxedo be part of their body?
It can't be.
But they can still make their wings into a fancy tuxedo.
How does Meta Knight turn his cape into wings? It's the same concept.
GreenLore1 votesThey can turn it into a tuxedo by making it look like one.Making 2 halves that are still connected to the back,while behaving like a tuxedo otherwise.
I mean Namis scales look like a dress on her upper body,but they are clearly a part of her body.
How does Meta Knight turn his cape into wings? It's the same concept.
Like I mentioned before,look at Mystique from the X-Men movies.
Çhåryzård1 votesThey can turn it into a tuxedo by making it look like one.Making 2 halves that are still connected to the back,while behaving like a tuxedo otherwise.
I mean Namis scales look like a dress on her upper body,but they are clearly a part of her body.
Like I mentioned before,look at Mystique from the X-Men movies.
You are looking into this more than I think you need to.
They would not have a tuxedo physically molded into their flesh. That's just insane. I doubt any Rioter would design a champ like that lol.
Also Nami has fins on her upper body, she is nowhere near wearing her dress her fins just make a collar.
It's literally just the same mechanism as Meta Knights cape. They are magical creatures that tap into raw untamed magic. If they want their wings to be a cape instead, or a tuxedo, or a fancy dress, they can do that without it having to grow out of their skin..
GreenLore1 votesReplying to this post here,because otherwise you wouldn't get a notification.
They would not have a tuxedo physically molded into their flesh. That's just insane. I doubt any Rioter would design a champ like that lol.
Thats why didn't have their wings transformed into tuxedos,thats why they chose capes instead,because it is a lot less awkward.
It's literally just the same mechanism as Meta Knights cape. They are magical creatures that tap into raw untamed magic. If they want their wings to be a cape instead, or a tuxedo, or a fancy dress, they can do that without it having to grow out of their skin..
But metaknights cape is a magical item,sure it merges with his body whenever he needs it to,but it isn't an actual part of his body.Wheras Xayah and Rakans wings are described as part of their bodies,they aren't magic items with shapeshifting abilities,they are body parts with shape shifting abilities.
EDIT:I also asked Waaarghbobo in your thread about this,because I think we'd discuss this endlessly without a clear answer from a rioter.
SparksFFF1 votesits stated multiple times that is not the true form of them.they have multiple different forms they can take that form was chosen by them to be more suitable for a world of bipedal creatures so they could blend in easier. and do the job easier. i assume this means that form was chosen by them together as a couple to signify there love for each other. never one without the other type of thing...but that is not there actual form.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] enjoy learning.
SparksFFF1 votesthey mention vastayan blood many times..swain has some in him...from what i got from the lore that isnt the actual form of those two. its the one they picked.
Meep Man1 votesHe combines with Xayah for two wings
Digielf1 votesThe Kamaels from Lineage 2 can also fly with 1 wing, it is possible. Although they can also transform and change their 1 white wing into 2 black wings.
Kulle Aid1 voteswanna know my thought? Their species doesn't fly till they have found their pair. Xayah being his. Once together they are able to fly with each other but never alone. Together they are meant to complete one another
CasterGilgamesh1 votesapparently the form we see rakan and xaya aren't their only forms....
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