Janna should be next in line to get an Ezreal-level VGU

Witch of Babylon·8/11/2018, 9:10:13 PM·43 votes·13,000 views

In my opinion, Janna needs it more than Ezreal. Legit only 2 of her skins have good looking models (Forecast and Sacred Sword), while the rest look so terrible (toilet paper should not move like that). Her effects also don't do Janna justice; they don't really portray her powers that well.

And like Ezreal, she does have problems/design flaws within her kit but not that bad to make her terrible.

Her Design Flaws

  1. The 8% movement speed she gives to allies is too subtle and gives too much power without being that noticeable or satisfying.

  2. The bonus magic damage on her AA's and W, barely noticeable. Only useful on W at mid-game.

  3. All her poking power was moved to her W, AA's don't feel good enough to use compared to it. When the passive finally starts to get some big numbers, it starts to get too risky to even use them.

  4. 550 range for basic attacking is the general norm for enchanter supports, but it's way too oppressive for a champion like Janna. A big shield and a 0.5 second knockup means enemies can't really retaliate.

  5. The bonus attack damage on her shield. Doesn't fit thematically. Although useful, hard to know it's there. Also only get full effect on crit ADC's or Yi, but near useless on anything else; should be more general.

  6. Her W being a viable poke ability in the first place, literally just right-clicking people for 250 damage isn't the most exciting.

  7. Her ultimate has a heal, but it's not really used for the heal. It's more of a cockblock-ability than a push-enemies-away-and-revitalize-your-teammates-ability.

Please let Janna be the next VGU, she's been waiting for a very long time.

51 Comments

Arcade Lulu8/11/2018, 9:13:06 PM13 votes

Star guardian [sg-janna]

Zyranium8/11/2018, 9:31:43 PM11 votes

I want to be able to play full AP Janna midlane again

But for the moment I don't think she's more elligible to get an Ezreal level VGU than these ones : Alistar Blitzcrank Diana Jax Leblanc Olaf Quinn Sona Veigar Soraka Trundle

A lot of champions suffer from this, and you made good points for Janna , I think Riot will come to a point when they will rework EVERY champions to the ground.

Warlord Rhinark8/11/2018, 9:31:30 PM7 votes

Forecast Janna isn't even that great.

It's mostly just Janna in a sexualized reporter outfit.

AstreaSoul8/11/2018, 11:23:29 PM7 votes

Something neat I think they could do with Janna's shield is make the stat gain from it adaptive. That way, you don't feel like you're trolling by casting E on an AP carry. Would probably need adjustments elsewhere so Janna isn't just shielding herself to nuke people with W, but I think it's a cool idea, at least.

DarkSoul19948/12/2018, 3:49:55 AM7 votes

Janna needs a Warwick-level VGU - she needs to do what she does now, but in a way that's actually healthy for the game. I always use Nami as a prime example of an Enchanter Support with a good (read: healthy) kit. She has a low skill floor, a high skill ceiling, plenty of counterplay, and mastering her feels incredibly rewarding - it feels so good landing double-bubbles and R -> Q combos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGhG6nHoaFc

When you've got a healthy enchanter in the game like Nami, it feels really bad that she's overshadowed by someone as uninteractive and, frankly, bland as Janna.

Best of The Best8/12/2018, 2:36:02 AM5 votes

rumble deserves a VU more than anything, its unbearable to play him unless you got the SG skin

Cyber HeroXL8/12/2018, 1:21:55 PM2 votes

give me birb mode.

Ironclad Dragon8/12/2018, 5:45:37 AM2 votes

Cough Mordekaiser Cough

jocomotion8/13/2018, 3:42:24 AM1 votes

Jax He hears the echo’s of “Janna needs it more than Ezreal” “Problems and design flaws... but not that bad to make her terrible”

RIP Jax model. You don’t deserve it apparently

No but in all seriousness why does Jax have the shape of a hard boiled egg in game?

Vlada Cut8/11/2018, 11:20:56 PM1 votes

She doesn't need is more than Ezreal, a popular sup doesn't stand a chance than an iconic adc when it comes to their popularity.

Please End Mee8/12/2018, 2:59:12 AM1 votes

I've played Janna for years now, and personally, I think she's fine. Sure I'd love to feel like some badass god of the winds when playing her, but even in the lore it never says that she actually directly harmed or hurt people, only "sending them off course with sudden squalls and storms" and other indirect forms of attack like that, and was overall, a borderline pacifistic character. I do think she needs a visual update for sure, sharing her hair quality in her Sacred Sword skin with the rest of her skins. I also hope, that they'll give her something else to wear in her classic form. I have no problems with her what she's wearing, and aesthetically I like it, but it just doesn't really seem to mesh. Keep her elf ears and blonde hair, but give her new armor/clothes, and white should still be the main color, but maybe like a white flowing dress that shows some midriff. Also, get rid of the tacky orange/yellow gems on her waist and in her staff, they're an eyesore to look at.

Gameplay wise, I feel that her passive should be changed to something more.. anything, her current doesn't seem to really do much except just like, be there. The passive AD bonus on her shield should stay, that's what makes Janna's shield HER shield, just like how Karma's gives movement speed, and Morgana's gives cc immunity, and even mages, especially early in laning phase, rely on their autos just as much as everybody else. Her Q could be changed to literally anything, as long as it remains a knock up/disengage, and her W, in my opinion is perfectly fine. You don't build AP on Janna, and it's base damage isn't overly oppressive, and she does have to get in a little to close for comfort in order to actually cast it, making her W decently balanced.

When it comes to her ultimate, I think it's fine, and I actually do use it for its heal sometimes rather than the knockback. A simple way of making it feel more powerful would be to lower the heal amount, not by any serious amount, and have it slow enemies when they reenter the monsoon, and instead of knocking everybody all the way out, would knock them back based on how close they are to Janna, closer you are, the more you get knocked back.

Douglas Funnie8/12/2018, 8:05:12 AM1 votes

Unless Riot reverts Janna to her original state, No. The inept Balance Team already did a rework on Janna and it was a total hackjob.

I do not want them touching Janna ever again. She has had enough. Stop.

Netorare8/12/2018, 12:33:54 PM1 votes

There are champs that need it more than janna, she can wait 2 more years.

Please End Mee8/12/2018, 3:11:49 PM1 votes

About the AD bonus, it doesn't have to fit thematically. Look at Karma, her shield gives movement speed, and that has literally nothing to do in relation to her overall theme. Also, things don't always have to be super noticeable and present, sometimes subtle is nice. I don't think any of my ADCs recognize when I cast my E on them as Nami and give them empowered autos.

StrangerL8/12/2018, 3:40:57 PM1 votes

I wonder if she can have her faster traveling but shorter ranger instant cast Q back. Now, it's so hard to use it against dashes. Even if it hits, the enemy is already got into melee range due to how slow Q travels. I know that charging up Q should be rewarded but use of instant cast Q to cancel dash should not be gutted.

Craktite8/12/2018, 5:54:25 PM1 votes

Is a GU not a VGU...

Helgak Bone8/12/2018, 6:20:44 PM1 votes

Visual rework for janna hell yea :D

And im very open for passive w and e reworks. just dont ruin ult and q. Those skills are her identity to me. They both have multiple uses for different situations and using them correctly is what sepperates great form average janna's.