Xayah and Rakan are the teenage couple that make out too loudly in a public place

THE RlVER KlNG··120 votes·25,579 views

....and get mad when you ask them to leave.

But honestly, they're adorable. They're a pair of horny angsty emotional pubescent teenagers you'd expect from an old Cartoon Network show. I may not be 100% fine with their kits but their personalities and interactions are top notch. You'd be surprised how many sexual innuendos these two can squeeze into an hour of dialogue and a rated T game.

Lore, art, and VO teams get exponentially better with each release and rework, I'm telling you. Rakan's first 15 minutes of dialogue is pure nightmare fuel but otherwise the two of them are frickin' adorable. I'll probably be making a lot of threads about these two in the coming days.

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Warlord Dienekes4 votes

It may be because I'm super jaded, but they remind me of a couple I used to room with back in college. Annoying lovey-dovey, head over heels for each other. Had obnoxious pet names, would noisily make out on my couch. All that stuff.

They're getting divorced now.

A Superb Villain3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Warlord Dienekes,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AeYeKI4F,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2017-04-05T20:59:21.387+0000) They're getting divorced now.

Ah. . . schadenfreude.

RiotWAAARGHbobo40 votes

The first 3 minutes of lines are his "attack lines." The sound files are arranged alphabetically.

SpecterVonBaren14 votes

I really think you guys need to change how you order them because this isn't the first time people have got the wrong impression of a champ from their first lines.

AMYS GRAVE21 votes

The voiceover files aren't meant to be listened to like an album, they are the file that gets called in game to get the sound clips. Why would you not want your sound clips sorted in an easy to parse manner? Maybe they could do something on release of a new champ where they highlight the lines but that's not what ff@20 has from datamining the game files.

DeathBurst3 votes

And yet, wether that's intended or not, that's still what people do. That's how people get their first impression of a champ.

And when people get a bad first impression on the Internet? That's a fucking shitstorm. Remember the plants?

So yeah, Riot should definitely change their VO files.

Chamuel852 votes

Changing their VO files because people are dumb would be another stupid idea.

DeathBurst3 votes

Planning around foreseeable circumstances is not exactly what I call stupid...

Chamuel851 votes

Yeah, just because you can predict people being absolutely stupid, doesn't mean you need to make your client sub par (which I would say choosing a suboptimal organization which guarantees slower response time because your search time for those is lowered would count as such).

There is a difference between a technical implementation that makes sense because it's faster, more RAM efficient, and just in general smarter (which organization of VO files WOULD fall under), and 'omg people can't figure shit out. let's make it so THEY can hear it better and then bitch about how our client is bad.'

It would be like rearranging a car engine so it's guaranteed to be half as efficient for no other reason because than you can see it better with zero information at the inner workings... or making tires square because people are too dumb to figure out circles and try to stand them up and constantly lose them cuz they roll down hills (since they're too dumb to figure out to lay them on their side).

DeathBurst2 votes

There is a difference between a technical implementation that makes sense because it's faster, more RAM efficient, and just in general smarter (which organization of VO files WOULD fall under), ...

It would be like rearranging a car engine ...

Your analogy is completely flawed. I'm 99.9% sure that the VO file is fully loaded in memory when the game starts, and even if it wasn't, it makes no sense to have all versions of the same trigger consecutively, because it is very unlikely that you will use all of them in a row, to the contrary. The only thing that would be impacted is that it would be a tiny bit less practical to write the code for the human scripters when hooking the champ. But the efficiency of the client? Nothing to do with what we're talking about.

Chamuel851 votes

so... you're not a programmer? got it. nvm then. I'm not going to go into much about how exactly wrong this would be from an efficiency stand point... especially when people already complain about how bad the client is. But absolutely 100% wrong to try to use 'what makes sense to listen to' as an organizational pattern.

DeathBurst2 votes

I'm doing a PhD in Computer Sciences...

Currently, the VO file is sorted by kind of trigger and start with the "Attack" triggers. Keeping the same structure and simply putting the "Taunt" triggers or whatever as the first category would solve the problem people like me are complaining about here. It's simple, and it doesn't change a SINGLE thing to the efficiency or quality of the client.

In fact, the VO file could be in a totally random order, that wouldn't change anything to the efficiency of the client. The only thing that would change is that it would be tedious to write the mapping between a timer in the VO file and a trigger event in-game, so probably more mistakes due to human errors, but still absolutely no efficiency issue.

Chamuel851 votes

In my experience, people who have PHDs in "Comp Sci" don't how to develop. They know the theory, but don't know how to put it into practice. Think the difference between a physicist and a machinist. Sure, let's just accept the scientist may know the science more, but putting into practice is definitely different.

Tldr; I've always out programmed the comp sci majors with PHD's that I've met. I've met about 15 by now.

I've always summed it up as... "In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice, theory and practice aren't the same."

DeathBurst2 votes

You may or may not "out program" me, the thing is, that's not exactly what is at hand here. I may not be able to program League's client myself, but I can definitely make an educated guess about how it works and how it was designed without having ever seen the code. The same way your machinist has to be trained to use every different machine whereas the physicist can't operate a single one sure, but still knows the general principles of all of them and can explain how they work with just a glance.

And I can tell you: what we're talking about here, I may not know how it is implemented exactly, but that's definitely not a performance/efficiency bottleneck. It's a convenience issue for the scripters who have to hook it up in the beginning, but once the hooks are in place, it doesn't change anything.

Fasmodey17 votes

I find them super adorable actually. Their dialogues are so funny to listen.

They also make you sad.

Goes back to loneliness and tries to hug it, but nope, not even loneliness is there

THE RlVER KlNG33 votes

Lots of champions have a whimsical exterior but pretty deep VOs - Kled, Ivern, Tahm, Aurelion, etc.

Some have very serious ones that can also make you laugh - Jhin, Warwick, a few others.

League's world is just so amazing, and its characters so rich. That's part of the reason it's world is so vastly superior to other MOBAs.

Faceroll Tactics11 votes

How is Kled's VO deep? I'm sure it's just mushroom juice addiction and paranoia about invisible badgers

Wheatloaf28 votes

"Skarl? Where are ya' buddy..."

;-;

Mistress Madoka14 votes

"Dangnabbit I love this Lizard"

500000000000000010 votes

It's about Kled's schizophrenia Skaarl is actually Kled's son trying to keep Kled out of danger

######kappa

CrazFight 10 votes

I ship them so hard .

SH Azykan7 votes

how else do you ship those who identify as attack helicopters?

LordHippoman7 votes

Xayah's kind of an asshole, though. Her dialogue has her being a racist to both humans and Yordles while threatening roughly every country on the map, relishing in how much she wants to murder people.

Shonjl7 votes

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Xayah's kind of an asshole, though. Her dialogue has her being a racist to both humans and Yordles while threatening roughly every country on the map, relishing in how much she wants to murder people.

Its not racist if she basically dislikes everything that isn't her cause.

Tentacle Love12 votes

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Its not racist if she basically dislikes everything that isn't her cause.

That's a common misconception. There's a difference between being a misanthropist and being a blatant racist or choosing to use far more harsh and racist language against certain groups.

The truth is that most hateful people start out by hating themselves, and they choose to vent that frustration out on everyone else. Hatred toward a group of people based on their race is racism flat out. Doesn't matter if you hate everyone else too.

Promoting your cause is one thing. Demeaning everyone else, as a group, because they aren't part of your cause? That's probably the reason they aren't part of your cause.

That being said, it's perfectly valid to create complex and problematic characters. But if you don't recognize it, you're not wielding the tool properly. I have faith in Rito though. They're doing good work.

Valaran Nara2 votes

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Xayah's kind of an asshole, though. Her dialogue has her being a racist to both humans and Yordles while threatening roughly every country on the map, relishing in how much she wants to murder people.

Sounds like my ex.

Guild Girl7 votes

So when do we get heartseeker? ;)

coeurloyal5 votes

Never. Unless they break up, neither are seeking any hearts.

...Well, Xayah is. But in more of a stabby fashion.

Gehco1 votes

Why don't they havve humanoid legs and feet

Ralanr7 votes

Cause birds?

midnight oil243 votes

Because they're more animal than human, I think.

Gehco6 votes

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Because they're more animal than human, I think.

It would be more sexy if they retained human legs/feet

Dreamspitter13 votes

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It would be more sexy if they retained human legs/feet

Found the kinkster. Don't worry I understand.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

We still have Syndra and Kallista.

Bottom Laner9 votes

Please. Have you seen the thigh gap on this man? ----------------->Urgot

Dreamspitter3 votes

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Please. Have you seen the thigh gap on this man? ----------------->Urgot

Or Elise

midnight oil242 votes

So you're a leg man, eh? ;)

I don't think that (at least xayah) they're supposed to be super sexy champions. It's probably more unbridled charisma with Rakan, but they're also likelly quite the catches among their own communities.

Dreamspitter3 votes

Elise

Sharjo33 votes

Well that's not how this breed of vastaya are born.

Over Innsmouth16 votes

The Sharjo has spoken.

Supreme Senpai696 votes

Amen.

Lord Phazanor 5 votes

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It would be more sexy if they retained human legs/feet

To you. I would find it more sexy if they had a cloaca.

Dreamspitter4 votes

LMAO. That's amazing. What if Cassiopeia had a cloaca? I mean whats under that lil metal skirt/guard bit? A bipenis?

10Tickler3 votes

More snakes

Raxistaicho1 votes

Their presence is such a retcon when you compare them to Rengar and Ahri, though. I mean hell, Rengar has a more human feel about him than those two.

midnight oil247 votes

But... but they are part of a retcon.

Also, they're not meant to feel "human," they're somewhere in-between human and animal.

Raxistaicho4 votes

What I mean is that Ahri and Rengar are like them in appearance only, but they got dragged into the whole Vestayah thing with them.

Faceroll Tactics4 votes

Like Fizz and Gnar are different types of yordles, Ahri and Rengar are different types of Vastayan.

Yes they retconned the lore but it gives more clarity of how a knife cat and spirit fox fit into the bigger picture, it's upfront for now but I'm sure it'll sink in

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