If J4 was going to marry somebody for political purposes who could it be? I know Shyvana is a fan favorite but lets take for example Leona, leader of the Solari, wouldn't this align rakkori and solari with demacia if J4 married Leo? Would this be a smart move to do? To gain more allies? could it happen?
RiotRiot Baconhawk29 votesTitle of the post is Political Marriages in Runeterra. So I'm going to take this moment to ship 
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again <3
because, um, [insert political reason here]
flies away quickly
TerraRising57 votesTitle of the post is Political Marriages in Runeterra. So I'm going to take this moment to ship
because, um, [insert political reason here]
flies away quickly
So... who is the one getting Knocked Up in this relationship?
Doominator108 votesYou've earned a 
IMTOOJUICY25 votesNot so sure about the conversation between the two on a first date...
For 2.95 a minute, I will leave you breathless...
Hasagi!
Ironclad Dragon10 votesTheir kid ran away at a young age.
IMTOOJUICY16 votes"What is broken can be reforged."
Clearly she was referring to her family. Poor Riven. :(
Besteau3 votesNot so sure about the conversation between the two on a first date...
Whenever he says Hasagi all I hear is Dos Equis.
the Anarchit3cht14 votesHow about 
and 
so you guys can finally come out with Ao Shin?
4nth0l0gy18 votesI ship him and Shyvana. I think Shyv's a great balance for him. Even though he has that noble air about him, Jarvan also has a dark, all-consuming anger that sometimes gets the better of him; Shyv, conversely, comes from the domineering, primal dragon background, and has necessarily learned to master her rage. She's a great fit for him that way. Also, politics-wise, I don't think potentially having dragons on your side is ever really a bad thing.
Leona couldn't look past that darkness within J4 I don't think. As far as alliances go, I don't think the Solari give much of a shit one way or another; they stand alone. I'd rule her out.
Quinn doesn't gain Demacia much; I also see Quinn as a sort of stargazing girl who's grown to accept that it can't be, but still kind of wishes it would happen anyway.
Others...Lux? Meh. I feel like she looks up to J4 as a (more recently distant but always separated by rank and nature) childhood friend, so they don't really mesh that way.
Sejuani? Nah, that lady's bitter for all of the help she's never been given, least of all from the prosperous Demacian nation. She knows right where Jarvan can stick Bristle's tusk.
I don't see any of the Piltover ladies falling for him. Vi and Cait are from a different culture and social status, they'd never get along with J4. Jinx is nuts, so no.
Karma? I don't think she'd let herself get weighed down like that. Also, Ionia is pretty independent on the whole. Irelia goes the same way.
Riven doesn't offer Demacia anything but her blade, even if she might be an okay match for the Jarvster.
So yeah, in my head canon, Shyv makes the most sense.
DragonShea3 votesI ship him and Shyvana. I think Shyv's a great balance for him. Even though he has that noble air about him, he also has a dark, all-consuming anger that sometimes gets the better of him; Shyv, conversely, comes from the domineering, primal dragon background, and has necessarily learned to master her rage. She's a great fit for him that way. Also, politics-wise, I don't think potentially having dragons on your side is ever really a bad thing.
Leona couldn't look past that darkness within J4 I don't think. As far as alliances go, I don't think the Solari give much of a shit one way or another; they stand alone. I'd rule her out.
Quinn doesn't gain Demacia much; I also see Quinn as a sort of stargazing girl who's grown to accept that it can't be, but still kind of wishes it would happen anyway.
Others...Lux? Meh. I feel like she looks up to J4 as a (more recently distant but always separated by rank and nature) childhood friend, so they don't really mesh that way.
Sejuani? Nah, that lady's bitter for all of the help she's never been given, least of all from the prosperous Demacian nation. She knows right where Jarvan can stick Bristle's tusk.
I don't see any of the Piltover ladies falling for him. Vi and Cait are from a different culture and social status, they'd never get along with J4. Jinx is nuts, so no.
Karma? I don't think she'd let herself get weighed down like that. Also, Ionia is pretty independent on the whole. Irelia goes the same way.
Riven doesn't offer Demacia anything but her blade, even if she might be an okay match for the Jarvster.
So yeah, in my head canon, Shyv makes the most sense.
true that. I think that shipping J4 with anyone else than shyvana is not really viable and it would look stupid.
IMTOOJUICY4 votesYes, plus J4 seems like a guy who does his own thing and gives very few fricks about the rules. He doesn't act like the most conventional of princes, unless it's typical of a prince to disappear for years on end to hunt extremely large beasties.
He won't marry for political reasons. He'll be that rare royal guy who marries for love. Thus, enter Shyvana. Or should I say, enter Jarvan, IYKWIM, ehehehehehehehehehehe.
Also, from Shyv's perspecive, Shyv would be so down with J4. She has problems locking down enemies in-game? J4 traps them all in his ult so she can beat up Teemo to her heart's content!
Rew7112 votesQuinn's disapproval should have more insight. Sure Shyvana and Jarvan have a small history but there are still small issues. Shyvana is part dragon and that is a lot in itself. She scares people. But also, Shyvana isn't much for tactical peace and stuff. She isn't raised to be a queen or human. Quinn though lived in Demacia gaining status fighting with Valor. She also gained possibly as much status as Shyvana by joining LoL. So, there may still be something there.
GA Lynx3 votesThere is one problem to this. The League no longer exists outside the game.
Gixia12 votesFrom the point of view of a political marriage, there is absolutely ZERO benefit to Jarvan and Shyvana hooking up. As much as I <3 Shyv, she's a nobody. She leads no faction, she wields no influence, she's both the enemy of dragonkind AND estranged from the rest of humanity due to their fear. Hell, she doesn't even hold any allegiance to Demacia, she's only there because she owes a debt of friendship to Jarvan. Him marrying her would offer no benefit and instead would only serve to give Demacia a queen whose own people are terrified of her and who doesn't really care a whole lot for them in return. It would likely cause more harm than good from a political standpoint.
As for a character standpoint... Nope, still don't ship them. They're friends, good friends, and nothing more. Men and women can have relationships with one another without them becoming intimate relationships, and I haven't seen anything to indicate that a J4 x Shyv ship would actually be any good for either of those characters, or particularly entertaining to view as an observer either.
Honestly, Quinn probably DOES have more to offer J4 than Shyv does. She's a bit more reserved to contrast his brashness and could better keep him from rushing off to do something stupid (as opposed to Shyv who would just charge in with him), and while Demacian nobility might look down on her as a commoner, the commonfolk just LOVE a good rags to riches story and would likely be smitten with her as the queen. Her background as a commoner would also give her a better understanding of their plight, allowing her to be a just ruler who commands the respect of her people, exactly the kind of leadership Demacia requires to function.
4nth0l0gy5 votesWell hang on, Shyvana herself says "I have proven my might to dragonkind" in her lore, which I take to mean she is respected by the dragons now. (Not that we know much about Dragons in this universe...Lore team?). So I don't think her having some sway over the dragons is out of the question. Will they go out of their way to help her, necessarily? Probably not. But will they listen to her if it's her word versus the Noxians? Sure. And that's valuable.
I agree we don't have to have every male character marrying every female character just because they're friendly, but this is a "political marriages in Runeterra" thread, so I'm just posing hypotheticals. I think, Hypothetically, nobody that we know of in the lore is more likely to fit Jarvan than Shyvana.
Quinn...she's not a terrible fit for Jarvan. There's even a chance she could be good for him. I think the problem is that he just doesn't notice her/think of her that way. Even if he did though, he would be bad for her, actually. He isn't used to being talked down or told no (how else does the prince of Demacia go dragon hunting for two years?). Quinn's resistance to his brasher actions (I'm sure she would have some) would probably turn him bitter to her, and she in turn would start to see him, not as the man she admires, but the man he is: a battle-bent vagrant trapped in the royalty of Demacia.
Shyv, conversely, would follow him and support him; she owes him that much. However, she would offer her own insight without being contradictory. Kind of a, "you do this, and I will stand beside you, but know that I do not agree." That's the only kind of advice Jarvan will take, in my head, and that's why Shyv is such a good person for him to have in his life. She's just more his type of people than Quinn is.
Also, just another point, we seriously know very little about the "commonfolk" of Demacia. We don't even know if they respect the nobility that much. Maybe they think the nobility are just a bunch of pomp and circumstance, off fighting wars with Noxus when there's enough going on at home to need attention.
Gixia3 votesWe know enough about dragons to know that full dragons consider half-dragons like Shyvana to be an abomination. If she's proven her might to them, it's more that she's proven she's strong enough that maybe it's not the greatest idea to come and fuck with her, but they're still not gonna be her allies.
And the thing about having someone like Shyv 'support' him is that... often times that's actually not what's best for a person in a relationship. It can be nice to have, but it also runs a real risk of enabling bad, self-destructive behaviour, especially when it's a bad behaviour both people suffer from. And while someone who's more resistant and opposed to enabling said bad behaviour COULD theoretically make J4 bitter, I picture Jarvan as being mature enough not to have that kind of childish reaction. Afterall, someone that royally prissy as to reject such harsh criticism isn't likely to be the type to want to go dragon hunting for 2 years to begin with.
When Quinn was still being teased, I'm pretty sure I recall us getting more details about Demacian commoners, though I'll admit I don't remember the specifics right now. That said, there are some things that seem to be near universally popular themes amongst humanity, and the idea of someone elevating themselves beyond their station tends to be a consistantly popular one.
Shiro Kiran3 votesI picture Jarvan as being mature enough not to have that kind of childish reaction. Afterall, someone that royally prissy as to reject such harsh criticism isn't likely to be the type to want to go dragon hunting for 2 years to begin with.
Really? Going off and doing nothing but hunting for sport and ignoring responsibility for 2 years sounds exactly like a childish, royal prick.
Captain Aishi12 votesSetting Demacia aside
The game has one potential "political marriage" that could also be a perfect-match kind of couple...
their mindsets seem so similar i think they'd get along great... and a military alliance between noxus and the winter's claw, hell yeah!
RiotRiot Catzpaw11 votes
I think that about covers it on my end.
Keevalroy3 votes
I think that about covers it on my end.
Wow, all at the same time? What a lucker dog.
IMTOOJUICY4 voteswhat the hell kinda politics is talon getting himself into??
Morgrid6 voteswhat the hell kinda politics is talon getting himself into??
Bedroom Diplomacy
SaltE DaltE9 votesPIMPMASTER TALON RITO PLEASE
IonCannonKarthus9 votes
We don't need anymore.
Jamnon4 votesexcept each other AW.
HeraldOne8 votes[deleted]
ShatteredSanity7 votesOkay, wait, but is gay marriage legal in Runeterra? That would open up a whole buncha of options.
Diana x Me9 votesOkay, wait, but is gay marriage legal in Runeterra? That would open up a whole buncha of options.
Shhhhhhjhhhhhh. Let sleeping giants lie.
LordHippoman6 votesI don't think Demacia would be very much into the Rakkor. They have kids fight to the death as part of their adulthood ritual. Demacia would probably frown upon that, since they're all about violence only as part of justice. Noxians might be more into that idea. Could be interesting, though.
Ashe and Trynd have a political marriage already, so the precedent is there.
Diana x Me3 votesI don't think Demacia would be very much into the Rakkor. They have kids fight to the death as part of their adulthood ritual. Demacia would probably frown upon that, since they're all about violence only as part of justice. Noxians might be more into that idea. Could be interesting, though.
Ashe and Trynd have a political marriage already, so the precedent is there.
Half of those born in Rakkor are guaranteed to die at the age of 21. Both male and female, all are required to serve in the military and I'm assuming all are required to marry if they survive long enough to retire which I'm going to assume is around the age of 40 like the Spartans because. They have a low population and people die in droves from training, the Right of Kor is the big one, death on the battlefield, survival on Mt Targon in general and natural causes.
Tldr Rakkors excessive violence keeps them from becoming Runeterra's superpower and it's xenophobia makes them politically unfriendly so no point in political marriage with them.
PhoenixOfHeaven6 votesIts ironic cause I made a joke about this last Monday. a lot of our marriage ideas wre weird, like Renekton and Lulu.
but our most cherished idea, and the most fitting.....
and .
Draven can talk all he wants about how amazing he is, and Sona wont interrupt him :)
HeraldOne6 votes[deleted]
Ptarlorr6 votesGolden Compass lol. You forgot:
They'll Manage
Ironclad Dragon5 votes
Teaching Robots How To Love
EllaRyu691 votesi wonder how they make love...
Diana x Me5 votesi wonder how they make love...
Blitzcrank plugs his USB cable into Orianna's USB 4.0 port
Orbv5 votesI see J4 marrying someone exotic because he has experienced the madness in the real world and needs something really out there to keep him sane. A normal woman wouldn't be able to help his thought process.
Shyvanna Soraka
Or if it really had to be a woman, it would need to be an amazon used to the wilderness
Nidalee Sivir
Tyvani3 votesOhh, Sivir might actually be a really nice choice now that she's the descendant of Azir.
HeraldOne4 votes[deleted]
Ironclad Dragon3 votes
The true Guardians of the Galaxy.
cshakes3 votesHe'll probably marry a nice Demacian noblegirl (of our roster: Lux, Vayne, Fiora, Sona) for internal political reasons. He might get a foreign lady of high standing in some political exchange, though I doubt he'd get any from any decentralized places like Piltover.
If he doesn't need to solve politics with his marriage, I'd say Shyvana, since Dragons. Also, they have a lot in common and their personalities fit together, like CC Shepherd said.
Snowplosion2 votesGaren might beat the crap out of him if he marries Lux. Might...
What Is Smite4 votesIncoming, Demacian Justice ( in Garen's eye's)
IMTOOJUICY7 votesEff political reasons. Besides, Lux is cray cray, Fiora is a bitch, Vayne is possibly both crazy and a bitch. And Sona's not even from Demacia originally, she's from Ionia!
Nope, sirree. Shyv is the only half-girl for J4.
stillserenity3 votesif it was and 
to be next it probably be them both on the run from demacia and noxus because of the two warring states but is that too generic?
EllaRyu693 votesor their marriage could even stop the whole war between Demacia and Noxus, and make peace with each other? sounds like nisekoi to me but at least these two have (probably) feelings for each other
What Is Smite4 votesNoxus is bent on power through strength and shows no mercy to the weak, Demcia applys Justice through violence and defend the weak. No matter what they contradict each other even if Garen and Katarina marry each other, at best they would have a cease-fire agreement that would be renewed every 6 years.
should be called; "Two Doves, One Swallow