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From what Dinopawz (senior writer) said. I doubt that Urgot would be spearhead of Noxus relaunch

Wordofmask··4 votes·936 views

In respond to why there is no Lucian, Sona or Xin story included in this Demacia event. Dinopawz explained the reason behind this decision.

"Trust me, we didn't want to leave them out, but we felt we'd be better served in these stories (intended to properly establish the culture of Demacia) with champs who more intrinsically represented the character of that realm. We'll get to them eventually, but for the initial impact, we wanted to focus solely on the champs that are inherently Demacian." ref: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/03/red-post-collection-god-fist-lee-sin.html

This means they really care so much about choosing candidates who can execute a faction's "initial impact". That's why I doubt that we will see Noxus lore relaunch coming with Urgot's rework this mid year. We all know that Urgot is Noxian but he has strong ties with Zaun. This's not just my idea even Reav3 ever stated about this as follows.

"We also didn't want to do 2 back to back Zaun champions(While Urgot is technically Noxian, he has strong ties with Zaun)." ref: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/champion-update/state-champion-update

I know it sounds monotonous but let me repeat this again that Swain is the perfect one who can do this job. Considering from Dinopawz's criteria, Swain is inherently Noxian. His grand general position makes him a perfect representative of this faction which values strength in any form. Moreover, He is high on VGUs list. Only thing they need to do is solving his identity and gameplay which I'm very sure they have discussed about it a lot.

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GreenLore2 votes

The thing is that we'll likely need 2 Noxus events to get all the champs updated anyway. They simply weren't able to update all the demacia lores at once so they cut the less demacia-centric champs.

I mean in the Zaun event they cut Twitch simply because they didn't have the time to update him.

Sharjo2 votes

I suppose it depends on whether Riot wants to head right back to Zaun again in a span of a few months. I say go for it because Twitch and Singed are just dying for full bios, but I can see an argument for too much of a given region at once.

GreenLore1 votes

I doubt that they'd really push out anything Zaun related besides Urgot. After all even if Urgot is Zaun related he is still primarly a noxian. I mean they had no problem doing Elise during the shadow isles update even though she is a noxian,because she is still mainly considered to be a shadow isles-champ

Wordofmask2 votes

As you said about Elise. She was born Noxian but her identity mainly defined by Shadow Isles. She is the prime example of a champ whose birthplace isn't relevant in term of lore update. That is very similar to Urgot. If Riot had no problem updating Elise's lore during Shadow Isles event. So I think they wouldn't bother updating Urgot along with another Zaun lore update too.

GreenLore1 votes

Elise is kinda on the opposite spectrum though,she was born in Noxus,but her story will mostly focus on the shadow isles.

A better example is probably Ezreal. He got his glove from Shurima,but that didn't stop Riot from including him in the Piltover update,because he is still considered a piltovian champ,not a shuriman one. Similar Orianna became who she is in Zaun,but she was still in the Piltover update,because Piltover is considered to be her main faction. And as you can see on the Universe site,Urgot is still considered to be primarily a noxian champ,not a zaunite one.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

That can change, though. Urgot background kinda doubles with Sion. Both were great noxian warriors and their faction refused to accept their death. So they resurrected them with necromancy. Only difference is that Urgot dead body was damaged alot more, so they had to use hextech additionally.

In my opinion, they could rework Urgot to be a Zaun chem baron. There is a prominent disease cursing Zaun anyway, he could be infected but since he fears death he decided to make these huge augmentations to stay alive. If I remember correctly we don't have the archetype of a champion who has a deadly disease but uses his resources and refuses to die by himself.

GreenLore1 votes

While they could rework Urgot into a zaunite chembaron(or a zaunite champ in general,the glorious evolved could easily be involved in his story) I kinda doubt that this will happen,because so far factionchanges are incredibly rare.

The only factionchanges that were ever made were almost always made to champs who were originally factionless(like Anivia,Nasus,Taric,etc.) I think the only exceptions were Udyr(went from Ionia to Freljord) and to some extend Volibear (as he was originally part of the avarosatribe and was changed to a member of the winter claw,but in the end he is still part of the freljord) and those are from season3.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Well, there is no reason to change someone's faction if there is no logical reason to.

At least I think they should get rid of Urgots resurrection. There is no need for him to be undead if Sion already fills that niche. He could be a deadly wounded veteran from noxus, not dead but to stay alive he has to be kept in that machine.

In the end I think: it is nearly impossible that they cut his ties with Zaun. Maybe he stays originally Noxian with augmentations from Zaun, but I doubt that they leave his lore the same exactly. Because of the parallels to Sion I mentioned.

GreenLore2 votes

Yeah I also think that Urgot will be alive in his new lore,because as you mentioned,Sion fills the "undead monstrosity"-niche already.

And in general I think that Noxus will still have ties to Zaun,even if they don't get into Piltover that easily.I mean they did use Zaunite machinery against Ionia(this can't be really changed as Jhins rifle was designed by copying the zaunite technology),so they gotta have a connection to them. So Urgot being tied to Zaun and Noxus wouldn't be impossible.

Glîtchy1 votes

But Sona came from Ionia don't forget, so I guess she's not included cause she's a mix bag?

she'd probably be in the Ionia relaunch? go figure

Valor Bot1 votes

Urgot has a lot of ties to Zaun as of now, but that could change with a VGU (look how much Galio changed with his rework on the narrative side). He could very well end up a core Noxian that is representative of the faction in some ways.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

Since his hextech augmentation is so prominent, I doubt they will cut his ties with Zaun. I think it is more likely that they get rid of his undead theme, making him an deadly ill human who was forced into these augmentations to stay alive.

I could see them reworking his lore to not be noxian anymore, but a Zaun chem baron. The undead resurrected noxian warrior theme doubles with Sion anyway...

Whyte Lyon1 votes

I agree completely. I myself still think there's a chance it could go either way for Noxus or Zaun. However I personally guess that it will lean back towards a second half Zaun LU.

Just re-phrasing what others hav said but it really really depends on what World Building and co. plan to do with Urgot's lore. Since their main focus is to... world build I don't know if a revisit is what they would desire most, especially when Zaun's update is still recent even by Jun/July. And apart from the crabman himself we only have two other champs to update, which isnt that exciting as much as i want Singed lore soo bad. I could see them adapting Urgot's background to be a lot more prominent role in Noxus. Therefore giving reason to do an LU for Noxus and SOME of the associated champs (Annie for sure wont be included).

Honestly Im super excited for this rework, it brings up a lot of questions. Like not only how will the dev team plan to rework Urgot's unique yet outdated current kit? But how are Narrative going to tackle his super simplistic/ lacks any depth lore aswell? We'll have to wait and see i guess.

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