Soooo... Are Ahri, Rengar and Wukong Vastayas now?

Ithil Snek··10 votes·4,720 views
Eduard Santangelo's Vastaya Field Journal - Universe of League of Legends

Vastayas are a new humanoid specie introduced in LoL's lore, which are mixes between an animal(s) and a human. The next upcoming champ are (it's a double champ apparently) vastayas.

In the end of the journal, Ahri is mentioned but it is not determined if she is a Vastaya or not. Since Rengar and Wukong are both some sort of humanoid animals, are they Vastayas as well?

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Tesla Effect6 votes

Vastaya with a lot of animalistic features: MonkeyKing Rengar

Vastaya with some animalistic features: Ahri , two new Humanoid Bird Vastaya

Vastaya shapeshifters: Nidalee

Has connections with the Vastaya: Ivern (Destroyed the God-Willow which some Vastaya in Ionia protected)

XIII Vanitas1 votes

Possible Vastaya: Volibear Rammus

Explanation: the lore states that some Vastaya travelled to the Freljord (confirmed progenitors of Urf's race and possible progenitors of the Ursine) and other to Shurima.

Beastyboy387IVC5 votes

i guess Nidalee Alistar heck maybe even TahmKench could be classified as vastaya

MavenSong14 votes

Kench is a spirit, not a Vastaya. His lore came very post retcon, they arnt going to need to rework his lore anytime soon.

cinomenapplebae1 votes

Soraka I guess?

Khadaver3 votes

She's a celestial being

JustNaes4 votes

That's old lore, since it was tied with old Warwick and Singed lore. I think she's up for retcon at this point and she'd be a good candidate for the Vastaya.

Arakadia1 votes

I think she will associate with Vestayas but stay a celestial.

JustNaes1 votes

I think that would probably make the most sense. I'm interested now to see her relationships with the Targon aspects (cause she's celestial), Irelia (she saved Irelia's life in the old lore), and now the Vastaya.

Arakadia1 votes

I totally agree. Soraka hasn't had too much interaction besides Warwick and Irelia, one or whom seems to be removed from her lore, and no interaction with face to face dialogue. It would be cool to see more of who she is rather than "love and healing and woo!"

After thinking about it, Warwick could still be heavily connected to Soraka. Hrmmm..

JustNaes1 votes

With the new Vastaya lore WW can be an artificially created Vastaya due to Singed's experiments OR he is actually Vastayan, but very diluted (like one twelfth Vastayan) and Singed just spliced WW's DNA to show his Vastayan roots.

Aside from using Raka's blood/fluids/etc. for the experiment, I can't necessarily see the link between Soraka and WW now. "Long ago they knew/met each other" trope seems like a super stretch, also with the new lore overhaul, WW is just another Zaunite thug gone twisted vigilante and would have nothing to do with Soraka so I don't see any connection between the two.

Aurelion Sol has a quote with Soraka where he hints at her confusion of what she is. It may imply she's a celestial being/aspect, but also Vastayan so not sure where she belongs. I think it would be a very interesting dynamic to explore.

AmazoX2 votes

I hope Rengar is an animal 100%

I wonder if we will ever see or know about what happened to Katarina's father & the Legendary hunter who trained Rengar.

cinomenapplebae1 votes

He looks much like an animal but his stance makes him feel more like a human.

Maximum Morde2 votes

So they made furries official. Lol.

Ithil Snek2 votes

I clearly don't see where the fcking furries are in there.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Those champions are textbook furries

Ithil Snek2 votes

I see none of these disgusting furries, only Vastayas.

Meliodäs2 votes

Ahri is kumiho, not vastaya, period.

AmazoX3 votes

Pats

There there.

She's a vastayan :3

Ithil Snek1 votes

Kumi-hoes don't exist in LoL, therefore she is a vastaya, PERIOD

Stop spamming about this ffs -_-

midnight oil241 votes

Yep, they're all (likely with wukong, not sure) vestaya. I personally like this, gives more depth to teh world and shows some of the effects of teh Rune Wars.

Ithil Snek1 votes

So the Ahri's Lore where she is a fox that merges with a human is scrapped?

midnight oil247 votes

Hopefully, because I always found her plot to be a little preachy.

AmazoX2 votes

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Hopefully, because I always found her plot to be a little preachy.

You are going to get down voted to Teemo's home A.K.A HELL for stating your opinion. #justahrimains

midnight oil244 votes

True. But hey, at least I don't care what ahri mains think ;) (kappa) (please don't kill me.)

Gapybo1 votes

Almost certainly I'd say. I wonder if Volibear also counts though.

Ithil Snek2 votes

I don't think so for Voli, since he is already considered as an Ursine. But maybe Ursines are a sub-specie of the Vastayas, who knows :/

TzQGRUST391 votes

I'd guess the Ursine are a sub-specie of vastaya like you say. It mentions in the journal that vastaya adapt to the region they are in, I think, so it would explain why they are polar bears.

LordHippoman1 votes

I'd hedge bets on Rengar, Wukong, and Nidalee.

Alistar's a maybe and I think Tahm is fine where he is, as is Volibear.

AmazoX1 votes

Wukong was born from a rune when monkeys tried to absorb its power.

Hovering Hentai1 votes

Ahri is stated and illustrated in the short journal entry so she must be

Kukan Seishin1 votes

AHRI IS A KUMIHO >:(

Hovering Hentai1 votes

Calm the weeaboo dear child

Kukan Seishin1 votes

It's not weeabo it's Korean mythology

Hovering Hentai1 votes

Yes that's why I was making a joke.....

Skorch1 votes

If i remember MonkeyKing is a living statue or something.

AmazoX1 votes

Intelligent monkeys tried to absorb a rune's power but Wukong was born and trained by Master Yi, Even in-game when he dies, He turns to stone.

Echeli1 votes

Why are everyone forgetting Elise? I see people talking about Nidalee but Elise is the same thing as Nidalee . Ahri is obviously going to be a vestaya and I don't think there is a question about that.

TzQGRUST394 votes

Elise got her shifting abilities from her Spider God, she isn't a vastaya. Nidalee probably is a vastaya though, we'll see when her lore comes through.

Kukan Seishin1 votes

AHRI IS A KUMHIO

Ithil Snek1 votes

Sorry but no, Ahri isn't a Kumhio. These creatures are part of the korean/japanese cultural legends, however Japan and Korea doesn't exist in Runeterra. Therefore, Ahri can't be a Kumhio since they don't exist in Runeterra. However, Vastayas do exist, and we can and must consider her as such.

u damn weaboo (kappa)

Kukan Seishin1 votes

Kumiho A nine tailed fox that feeds on people's life essence Ahri A nine tailed fox that feeds on people's life essence

Damn it almost seems like Ahri is a Kumiho How strange

As far as Runeterra goes I could care less, Ahri has always been considered a Kumiho, and I plan to see it that way till I die

Fight me (no kappa)

Ithil Snek2 votes

Well consider Ahri as what you want, but in fact, she isn't a Kumiho in LoL.

Chiisai Oppai2 votes

Just because something is based off of something doesn't mean it is that thing.

Ahri Is clearly based off the Kumiho / Kitsune myth, without a doubt, however her canon lore is a Runeterran parallel to that myth with Riot's own spin. Therefore, canonically, she is not titled Kumiho because she is in fact Vastayan, something specific to what her story is. She is, however, influenced by real life myths.

Kukan Seishin1 votes

Ihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh iiiiiihhhhhhhhhhhhhhh iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiihhhhhhhhh

Fair enough

Talonted Bronzie1 votes

how about Twitch then?

VI for VΕNDETTA2 votes

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how about Twitch then?

He's actually the product of a laboratory experiment like Zac, so definitely not a Vastaya.

Tesla Effect1 votes

She never was refered to as a Kumiho, she never had a desegnated race. Kumiho is something people put because they didnt knew any better term and it was closest to what she was inspired from.

Talonted Bronzie1 votes

Nunu how about him?

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