My Opinions on Strength of Champions excluding God tiers

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Im going to exclude God tiers as acended and above, no xerath, no sol, no bard I do not consider powerful races such as Iceborn or Darkin as god tier,

Support Braum Reason: Braums been around for a long time as his lore is told in a grandmother's story, yet he appears to be in his prime, its likely hes an iceborn and as such been around longer then Ivern, and he also if the story is accurate, tore down a mountain, by himself. Marksman Jhin/Lucian Reason I place Jhin because hes crafty and plans ahead, taking on both shed and zed; however in a brawl Lucian is basically soloing the shadow isles so its a pretty easy victory for him Fighter Olaf Reason:Olaf lore basically means hes 100% unkillable no matter what he will survive the fight Illaoi is also close, however she requires Nagagkaboros assistance Mage Lux Reason:In lore Lux can actually copy any spell she sees, combined with the fact she is a solar death cannon. she can either copy syndras unleashed power or Veigar's primordial burst upon watching from afar, or just kill them before they can get in an effective range Tank Nautilus Reason: Nautilus is not only massive lore wise, (almost as large as cho'gath) he is capable of carrying a diving suit and ship anchor without much difficulty, if you also belive the Darkin theory, he might be possessed by a Darkin spirt, making him comparable to Aatrox Assassin Zed Reason:Zed lore wise can most likely use any shadow around as a potentional weapon or escape tool, making it practically impossible to either harm or avoid Zed.

This is of course my opinion, if you have any different opinions please let me know, i love debating :^)

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Sancre1 votes

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Im going to exclude God tiers as acended and above, no xerath, no sol, no bard I do not consider powerful races such as Iceborn or Darkin as god tier,

Support Braum Reason: Braums been around for a long time as his lore is told in a grandmother's story, yet he appears to be in his prime, its likely hes an iceborn and as such been around longer then Ivern, and he also if the story is accurate, tore down a mountain, by himself. Marksman Jhin/Lucian Reason I place Jhin because hes crafty and plans ahead, taking on both shed and zed; however in a brawl Lucian is basically soloing the shadow isles so its a pretty easy victory for him Fighter Olaf Reason:Olaf lore basically means hes 100% unkillable no matter what he will survive the fight Illaoi is also close, however she requires Nagagkaboros assistance Mage Lux Reason:In lore Lux can actually copy any spell she sees, combined with the fact she is a solar death cannon. she can either copy syndras unleashed power or Veigar's primordial burst upon watching from afar, or just kill them before they can get in an effective range Tank Nautilus Reason: Nautilus is not only massive lore wise, (almost as large as cho'gath) he is capable of carrying a diving suit and ship anchor without much difficulty, if you also belive the Darkin theory, he might be possessed by a Darkin spirt, making him comparable to Aatrox Assassin Zed Reason:Zed lore wise can most likely use any shadow around as a potentional weapon or escape tool, making it practically impossible to either harm or avoid Zed.

This is of course my opinion, if you have any different opinions please let me know, i love debating :^)

Completelly right on Braum, his strenght make legends on Freljord

Lucian almost got killed by Thresh in 1 on 1, he isn't facing the whole shadow isles, that would be pure madness. He is a outstanding gunner, with lots of experience on taking down the supernatural beings, but thats as much as we know about his skills in battle.

Jhin is a hired gun, twisted serial killer, martial artist, genius, perfectionist, magic adept, with many years of exprience and strong enough to scare Zed (The last of your list) and Shen enough to make them forget their hatred and join again just to stop Jhin's murder spree, while this one just toys with them like if they were still children and has set the perfect moment to kill them.

Olaf's lore doesn't make it invincible, just that he won't die. So he could really end up disabled if he went too reckless, he is really strong and has really interesting axes, but compared to illaoi, that has also pure brute force and on top of that, a god, he falls behind.

Lux hands down, she is quite powerfull.

Nautilus stopped being a human long ago, and we don't really know what he is anymore, so I'm not sure if he can really fit in this, as far as we know, he could be a demon, a darkin, or something completely different.

Zed is specially deadly, his control of shadows is a quite powerful weapon, but there is much more to know about that, something forbidden must have had some negative effect on his body too, not only his mind. Until we discover if the shadows have some secondary efect on him, he is the strongest assassin by lore.

I would add Ekko, Ryze, Veigar and Annie to this list

DoomRPG1 votes

Allright i admit to giving lucian a bit to much credit, however he has more credit then vayne, and they are the two biggest non god tier adc's other then jhin, Jhin is well prepared and a perfectionist, however he could be considered predictable, avoid the number 4 and your A-okay still most likely the strongest Marksman overall, Olaf can indead be injuried, or rendered incapacitated, however this is an overall list, and as such my overall opinion stands, olaf is still unkillable by battle, Nautilus is debatable, hes def not human, however he hasnt shown god level tiers in lore or gameplay, so I feel he is the most powerful tank due to context of not being human, yet without any reason to make him god tier. Ekko has control over time yes, even if its limited and thats the best power, however he is young and foolhardy, as such i doubt he would be capable of defeating my opinions for some reason or another, Veigar is weaker then lux because lux can copy primordial burst and has some means of protecting herself from it, veigar does not shes also longer ranged if gameplay is to be considered. Adult Annie is DEFIANTLY someone to consider and might be on the border of god tier, however young annie is naive, not very bright, and could be easily tricked/outsmarted. Ryze without world runes is in my opinion weaker then xerath, veigar lux and syndra, however if he used them to their full potentioal he could potentionally duel with Aurelion Sol and Bard and un-restricted Xerath to some extent maybe even winning if the world runes are stronger then we think, however charcter wise Ryze wont be using them thus his overall power is neutered. one of us should be the Architect for the Great Wall of America if Trump gets elected Wall of text op

Sancre1 votes

Well, you have to avoid Jhin's 4, but you don't always have the same count as him, you might have seen him shoot twice before he disappeared for a sec, and when he is back, he has the fourth shot loaded and ready to blow you up. While Jhin is somewhat predictable, in lore he is completelly unpredictable in his plans and so.

About Nautilus... well, he was seen fighting by himself the black mist, driving it away and surviving while doing it, if that isn't almost godlike...

Ekko's power isn't only time rewind, but his own mind, he can be young, but he is a genius inventor already.

Well, veigar can create an event horizon, not even light escapes from that if emited from inside so... not sure about veigar vs lux thing

About Ryze, he probably would never use the runes, but his power and experience makes up for it to an extent, he had to face many empowered enemies to get the runes back. We don't really know how many runes he already has, and what effects do they have, if only as powercells or some different effects like earthbending, creating tsunamies and so, that would also explain why he is so reluctant to use them even when his life is on danger.

DoomRPG1 votes

Actually what you say about jhin seems odd, hes breaking the serial killer code if he goes from 1-2-4 and ignoring his theme or Jhin doesnt know how to count. Nautilus durabillity is comparable to both fizz and nami capable of surviving 100-1000 ft under water, however hes fairly slow, so whiles hes practically indestructible for league standards hes the immovable wall, Ekko might be a genius inventor at an extremly early age but intellect is not the same as wit, he can still be as fooled as easily if he wasnt a genius inventor, Veigar Event horizion gameplay wise seems fairly simple to escape, however if its name is literal then Aurelion sol has nothing on Veigar, as creating an event horizion on wim is god tier judging from the fact that veigar is egoistical i find it unlikely Event Horizion is to be taken literally Ryze is well experinced however power he seems to be fairly lacking, whilst old ryze with "Desperate power" and forbiddion magic was in my opinion loads more powerful New ryze is experinced winning through having more tricks on the book

Sancre1 votes

The Jhin part is gameplaywise, in Lore Jhin isn't predictable at all, the 4 shots for more damage is just on gameplay, where Jhin can shot a jungle mob to be ready to burst an enemy adc unexpectedly.

I'm not sure Nami or Fizz could singlehandedly resist the Black Mist until it goes back as he did, I think Nautilus might be a bit more durable than those 2, not only on the physical level, but on the psychological, the maddening screams of hundreds of revenants are quite unnerving.

Well, ekko is supposed to have intellect and wit, you don't really get to live in the suburbs of a criminal city without parents or anything to take care of you as a kid with only more kids to live if you if you aren't really cunning, those wo weren't would probably end up dead or kidnapped.

But yeah, Ekko as it stands right now has power on knowing, but not on brute magic or strenght, this might change later on though, when he grows up and start designing new devices and improve the ones he posesses right now, like the Timewinder. I doubt he was later taken as part of the Proyect team just because he had that machine.

Veigar seems to have some kind of Dark matter magic, or cosmic magic in general.

If Event Horizon was cannon by name, Veigar would be more or less akin to Aurelion, as this one can create both stars and black holes, would be a quite interesting battle, but i'm not even sure we can count Yordles on this, as they are spirits.

Thats the idea about Ryze, not brute power, but knowing more and outwitting every enemy he faces. Although in that magic book there must be far more spells than what he shows

I'm really rooting now for some game mode where we have to get the world runes and use them for different effects

DoomRPG1 votes

I forgot what our jhin arguement was, I agree on the naut part, Ekko does have parents that DO take care of him, they are just overworked, And judging from his quotes, he seems more of a smart alec then he is witty, Veigar again is a bit hard to verify, Gameplay wise event horizion is fairly simple to escape, if he can create event horazons and plasma at will, hes DBZ lvl and thus my league standards disqualified from this Ryze is experinced however similar to batman, Ryze cant beat someone stronger (or in this case magicallably) faster and longer ranged then him, and can copy every spell he uses first try I totally agree on the world runes, it should be a 1v9 against a mad ryze (the 1) and 9 other champions whom are buffed to URF lvls.

Sancre1 votes

Ops, forgot about Ekko parents, i guess its quite incredible how little they care about their kid facing zaunite assassins in the suburbs.

About veigar, he seems to be the strongest Yordle, but i Don't think he is celestial lvl, but that he uses cosmic magic as a type of magic, so he can create tiny versions of different cosmic events, quite op, but not even close to celestials.

Well, if Ryze is like Batman, he can beat everyone, no matter how strong, thats more or less what Batman is about, and he have been beating stronger people since he had to kill his master to this point in time, hundreds on years laterj

Ralanr1 votes

I think it's not so much they don't care, but rather they are too busy working in factories to notice.

They should notice that Ekko looks older than he actually is though. So it's probably something along the lines of barely home.

DoomRPG1 votes

Ekko's Parents very much care for Ekko, The problem is that they live in Zaun, they are probably working 21 hours a day without a day off, they care hes facing zaunite assasins, they just cant really do anything about it and i doubt ekko wants them to know hes doing it Veigar is capable of creating cosmic events on a small scale, however Veigar is quite megalomanical, I doubt he has sound plans, battle or otherwise Lux might be naive, but that doesnt mean stupid Batman Can't defeat superman if Superman wanted him dead, Ryze can't defeat someone who can copy his abillities, is a solar death cannon has some means of protecting herself is longer ranged. Batman has accomplished insane things, however thats due to abusurd amounts of plot armor, In a plot armorless fight Experince and age can only help so much

Sancre1 votes

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Ekko's Parents very much care for Ekko, The problem is that they live in Zaun, they are probably working 21 hours a day without a day off, they care hes facing zaunite assasins, they just cant really do anything about it and i doubt ekko wants them to know hes doing it Veigar is capable of creating cosmic events on a small scale, however Veigar is quite megalomanical, I doubt he has sound plans, battle or otherwise Lux might be naive, but that doesnt mean stupid Batman Can't defeat superman if Superman wanted him dead, Ryze can't defeat someone who can copy his abillities, is a solar death cannon has some means of protecting herself is longer ranged. Batman has accomplished insane things, however thats due to abusurd amounts of plot armor, In a plot armorless fight Experince and age can only help so much

Even in that case, they should be seeing his dear son limping or full of bruises, probably having on daily basis some broken bones

Veigar just want to destroy everything, what stops him right now without the summoner? thats unknown

Yep, batman vs superman is usually tons of plot armor.

Ryze can defeat someone that can copy his abilities, even if it works from longer range, realm warp is quite something at getting you between the enemy lines to burst down squishy enemies faster than they can say "WHAT?"

DoomRPG1 votes

Ekko's ultimate seems to repair any form of damage ekko takes, (atleast lore wise but not exaustion, so I doubt he'd be limping or full of bruises, however he would be heavily exausted but would not be in any serious injury, it would be quite easy for him to brush it off as a long game of tag.

Uhh Summoners dont exist, If veigar wants, and could destroy the world, why is their still a runeterra? thats because no matter how much he wants to destroy the world, he cant

Batman vs superman the battle for plot armor

What prevents lux from copying realm warp? and its not like realm warp is subtle, I mean in both the log in screen and gameplay Realm Warp is pretty obvious,

If your burst down by an enemy team appearing from realm warp, then its less of ryze outplaying you per say. and more of you being unaware,

Lux is naive, not stupid, I doubt she would be surprised to see Ryze teleport, since its kinda of a thing in league of legends lore, even reletively weak mages (IE actual lore summoners like lee sin trained to be, but not like the league of legends summoners no longer cannon) were capable of long range teleporation, albeit they could only warp one thing at a time, unlike ryze.

Sancre1 votes

In Seconds, the ult isn't able to repair any damage, Ekko fights the cyborg with ribcage, arm and jaw damage after rewinding 3 times at least.

Even for a genious, there are still limits, like seeing realm warp close to you and in the second it ends you get bursted by ryze's spell (not even accounting for how many different tricks he might have up his sleeve)- Ryze's spells seem to be of a powerful kind, but less offensive than Lux's

DoomRPG1 votes

He seemed just fine to me, he was feeling PAIN and SHOCK, from an injury he felt but was not there anymore, if he had a broken bones and ribcage it seems odd he isn't bleeding in the slightest after rewinding

"ryze spells seem to be of a powerful kind but less offensive than lux" Lets ignore the fact that gameplay wise lux has a shield ryze does not, delayed teleportation is useless against someone who is expecting it

Sancre1 votes

In Seconds Ekko even cracked his jaw to set it in the original position, was grabbing his chest in pain and even then, was only able to use one arm after his got stomped, what left it hanging at his side, only able to use his intact arm to finish off the cyborg. Besides, not even ingame the ult can heal you from 1 to 100%, it just heals a percentage.

Ryze has a shield too, and even bigger once the builds are full (e+w), And, you can't really expect something that you don't know that your enemy can do, even if its a bit delayed

DoomRPG1 votes

Hes not bleeding or suffering from bruises in seconds, Gameplay is rarely accurate to lore, Ekko DOES heal from all wounds in lore, he doesnt recover from the pain and shock of the wound, thats why he holds his arm and chest, their is no injury, he just Feels an injury, its called Phantom Pain and is actually a thing in real life experinced by amputees. OH yeah ryze DOES have a shield, JEE ITS A LARGE BLUE CIRCLE IN TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ONE NEXT TO ME AND ONE AT HIS LOCATION, I WONDER WHAT HE COULD BE DOING, Lux is naive not stupid, im fairly certain she can recognize that ryze is doing something involving locomotion in time to say, use binding

Sancre1 votes

Well, phantom pain is called that way because they are sensations in limbs or part that exist no more, but ok, lets call it "Phantom time pain" or something along the lines. Well, even with that pain (That usually is nullified in a moment of fight, when adrenaline floods our system, shutting down almost all pain) Ekko CRACKS his jaw, and has the arm hanging useless, unable to almost move it, only to avoid injuring it anymore while rolling, that doesn't seem normal in completelly fixed body parts, even if fixed of damage, the jaw was out of position, or it wouldn't have cracked.

Personally, the first time I saw Ryze's ult, i though it was some kind of area blast, not a teleport, probably Lux would think the same and get the hell out of there. That considering that Ryzes decides to use the full area teleport for no apparent reason instead of a simpler 1 person teleport that requires less energy and probably time, pretty common in LoL lore as you said yourself. And of course, taking for granted that Ryze is stupid enough to use the teleport in plain sight for lux to burst him from demacia with a laser instead of hiding behind something so he can't be seen for some seconds, while she is searching for him to burst him down

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Veigar just want to destroy everything, what stops him right now without the summoner? thats unknown

Wrong. He doesnt want to destroy the world... he wants to RULE IT. You cant rule the world if is destroyed.

DoomRPG1 votes

I bet 50$ veigar cant come up with a scheme to rule the kumungu jungles and succead

Sancre1 votes

Give Wukong a cosmic banana, the banana was a dark matter blast, now Veigar is king of the monkeys, and king of the jungle, gjwp

DoomRPG1 votes

what? I dont think monkeys work on Klingon promotion

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Veigar Event horizion gameplay wise seems fairly simple to escape, however if its name is literal then Aurelion sol has nothing on Veigar, as creating an event horizion on wim is god tier judging from the fact that veigar is egoistical i find it unlikely Event Horizion is to be taken literally

The lore of Veigar describe him as a corrupter of cosmic energies (same ones used by Auelion, Bard, etc) and master of the dark magics, canon images created by Riot show him summoning storms of meteors with ease and the old lore mentions that he can create wormholes to steal things. Considering that he is also from a race of timeless beings with magical affinity that cant be seen in their real forms by normal humans, i would actually put him on the "god tiers"


And about Lux and Syndra, you say that Lux is capable of copying any spell, but it doesnt mean that she can copy the power of Said spell... Sure, Lux could see a thunderbolt of Xerath and copy it, but it doesnt mean that her thunderbolt will be powerfull as the one created by Xerath. In a fight between Lux and Syndra, Syndra could just destroy a large part of Demacia by trowing her floating island towards them (and killing Lux in the proccess)... however, Syndra has almost no limits in her magic... so i guess that that she could be considered someone in the "god tiers"

Fasmodey1 votes

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The lore of Veigar describe him as a corrupter of cosmic energies (same ones used by Auelion, Bard, etc) and master of the dark magics, canon images created by Riot show him summoning storms of meteors with ease and the old lore mentions that he can create wormholes to steal things. Considering that he is also from a race of timeless beings with magical affinity that cant be seen in their real forms by normal humans, i would actually put him on the "god tiers"


And about Lux and Syndra, you say that Lux is capable of copying any spell, but it doesnt mean that she can copy the power of Said spell... Sure, Lux could see a thunderbolt of Xerath and copy it, but it doesnt mean that her thunderbolt will be powerfull as the one created by Xerath. In a fight between Lux and Syndra, Syndra could just destroy a large part of Demacia by trowing her floating island towards them (and killing Lux in the proccess)... however, Syndra has almost no limits in her magic... so i guess that that she could be considered someone in the "god tiers"

About copying power level, you are correct. But even if Lux could copy the power level of spells, which I do not think, she could not copy power level of Xerath's spells. Because Ascension of Xerath made his spells stronger according to Dinopawz. His arcane body empowers his spells. Something Lux do not have.

DoomRPG1 votes

Xerath is ascended and thus god tier, Syndra and veigar MIGHT be god tier, syndra currently however is not she can be defeated, and veigar could actually be on aurelion and bard levels if you take the name of his abillities names literally, however Veigar is megalomanical like a cartoon villain he may be impressive but he will always be defeated because of his own short-sightedness

AcidTheWarlock1 votes

Veigar IS THAT A SHORT JOKE?!

DoomRPG1 votes

Not of your shortiness, its how your plans always fail "caught forgot to calculate teemo Caught" come at me bro

DoomRPG1 votes

Xerath is on a different level as an ascended, So Lux can Copy them but i agree with what, Ionia is on the other side of valoron from Ionia, and throwing that massive of an island I doubt syndra can do now, since this list counts present time, I still think Lux beats syndra, later? no but now I belive Syndra is to megalomanical and short-sighted to defeat anyone relaibly The Same goes for Veigar, except hes EVEN MORE megalomanical his plans are guarntead to backfire on him somehow, Veigar might be on par with bard and aurelion, however unlike them his plans are more then likely to explode on his face

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Xerath is on a different level as an ascended, So Lux can Copy them but i agree with what, Ionia is on the other side of valoron from Ionia, and throwing that massive of an island I doubt syndra can do now, since this list counts present time, I still think Lux beats syndra, later? no but now I belive Syndra is to megalomanical and short-sighted to defeat anyone relaibly The Same goes for Veigar, except hes EVEN MORE megalomanical his plans are guarntead to backfire on him somehow, Veigar might be on par with bard and aurelion, however unlike them his plans are more then likely to explode on his face

Well, we are talking about power not psychology... If Syndra can lift a island, she can lift the crownguard house as well... throw the house and kill Lux with ease. Same goes for Veigar, he doesnt need a plan to kill Lux when he can kill her with a single spell... and she cant kill him because of the op yordle powers from the new lore.

DoomRPG1 votes

I can request why Syndra is at Demacia, she doesnt really seem to much for world domination (at least last i checked her lore) I admit in the future Syndra can beat lux however I dont think throwing a massive chunk of morter is fast enought to kill lux before she can verify the threat and use final spark to disintegrate Syndra, Psychology is very helpful in battle, If you know your opponet is megalmoniacal and thus full of themselves, you know they are underestimating you, And op yordle powers from the new lore what? Like poppy and kled seem immortal to some extent and immortallity is nice but its not an instant game winner however could you give me a link to these op yordle powers because i am completely unaware of them and would like to know what the fuck you are talking about

Ralanr1 votes

Sion

Sion is displeased he was passed over.

DoomRPG1 votes

Charging throught an entire army would be impressive if the demacian army wasnt busy eating bread and preparing to SIEGE. other then that hes hardly more then a brute, I still think Olaf is stronger lore wise since it is impossible to kill him in any other way but age

Ralanr1 votes

But Sion is a tank. He should be compared to Nautilus. Not Olaf.

DoomRPG1 votes

HURPPYITY DURP DURP DOOM IS A COMPLETE IDIOT WHY DIDNT I REALIZE THIS EARLIER, I blame the fact i play new sion as a fighter, not tank, Anyhow I still think Nautilus trumps sion, since naut can just, Sit on sion and hes squish

Ralanr1 votes

Idk man. Remember that Sion's shield can scale infinitely.

DoomRPG1 votes

True, however Nasus had 6 centuries to scale Q and he STILL couldn't one shot Xerath, so while gameplay wise Sion's shield can scale infinitely, lore wise that "scaling" is neutered

Ralanr1 votes

I don't think Nasus is the kind of person to stack his Q for six centuries. Lore Nasus sounds more like AP Nasus in playstyle IMO.

DoomRPG1 votes

So is lore thresh a friendly support that saves his pal lucian from that aurelion sol mid full on-hit adc bard and old OP as all hell ryze? Thresh won against lucian but you think it woulda been less of a fight and more of a SSGSS goku fightning a baby krillin

Ralanr1 votes

True, but we also know that Sion has at least been stacking health since he's been used in battle. We have no idea what Nautilus has accomplished in lore.

DoomRPG1 votes

being a 6-8 titan that survived the crushing pressure of being hundreds if not thousands of feet underwater, it may sound insane but applying real world logic to LoL Fizz, Nami, and Nautilus are the most durable league champions (excluding Aurelion who makes stars for a living and maybe bard, but for all we know bard is as durable as paper or even greater then Aurelion)

Ralanr1 votes

Ok sure. But even Nautilus has a limit to how much he can take. Sion has potentially no limit.

DoomRPG1 votes

He would run out of humans to kill. and whos saying he might be re-sealed somewere else, Boram Darkwill seemed to be capable of doing it just fine

Ralanr1 votes

Who says it only needs to be humans?

DoomRPG1 votes

Even if Lux can't copy Syndra's orbs she still outranges syndra by a massive extent and is still a solar death cannon, I dont think Syndra's robes and flesh can withstand final spark, now lux probably cant survive unleashed power even with prismal shield (or whatever her W is called) however gameplay wise final spark is longer ranged then unleashed power, suggesting the same in lore

GreenLore1 votes

Would you consider Mordekaiser and Kalista god tier? Because if not I'd say that they should be the number-1-champ of their roles.

I mean Mordekaiser was outright said to be the strongest undead of the shadow isles,which is saying a lot already. Not to mention that he has no solid body,can enslave souls and was said to too powerful for the black mist,which is quite impressive considering that the black mist corrupted a whole nation and is slowly expanding.

And Kalista absorbed lots of other souls over time,which made her stronger and stronger,so she is likely far stronger than any human marksman.

DoomRPG1 votes

Yes I consider them God-Tier, Kalista is thousands of years old and is most likely undefeatable to some extent Morde is DEF god tier lore wise the only champions that can solo morde would be bard, Aurelion World Rune Ryze, unrestricted xerath, and maybe the aspects

Fasmodey1 votes

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Yes I consider them God-Tier, Kalista is thousands of years old and is most likely undefeatable to some extent Morde is DEF god tier lore wise the only champions that can solo morde would be bard, Aurelion World Rune Ryze, unrestricted xerath, and maybe the aspects

I think even Bound Xerath can solo Mordekaiser.

DoomRPG1 votes

I personally dont think Bound Xerath can solo Mordekaiser, however I do not know much about Xerath so maybe your right

Fasmodey1 votes

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I personally dont think Bound Xerath can solo Mordekaiser, however I do not know much about Xerath so maybe your right

Mordekaiser has no necromantic powers on Xerath and physically he couldn't even reach him if Magus Ascendant doesn't want. Xerath's telekinetic powers smashed Nasus so bad he was at the edge of death.

DoomRPG1 votes

Oh so Xerath has telekinetic powers, Allright I didnt really read the Shuriman lore yeah bound Xerath beats morde aswell doesnt really change the fact that morde is still god tier even if hes bottom of the barrel

Fasmodey1 votes

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Oh so Xerath has telekinetic powers, Allright I didnt really read the Shuriman lore yeah bound Xerath beats morde aswell doesnt really change the fact that morde is still god tier even if hes bottom of the barrel

Mordekasier is still god tier yes, more malicious but weaker than Xerath though.

Xerath's magical powers we ever seen in lore:

Mind control Telekinesis Earth Magic (possible because we heard earthquake like sounds when he was coming to Shuriman City with his tiny army, not seen, but I think it is official due to his telekinetic powers. Sounds can be because of army though but it was high enough to be heard from far away, but again, It can because of Nasus' superior hearing) Fire Magic Arcane Magic Lightning bolts Sandstorms Mage chains (started but did not finish)

He also has scorching aura caused by the power of his arcane body. His body devastates everything he is near.

He levitates too. He reaches to a position that Nasus cannot reach.

Xerath is highly bright. He illuminated as Sun Disc never ever did when he heard Nasus' words against his identity.

Lastly It is said Xerath can learn and master most type of magic. Even necromancy.

DoomRPG1 votes

DAM, Yeah bound Xerath is much stronger then i thought thank you for giving me the run down

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