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Singed, not just a chemist anymore?

Whyte Lyon··6 votes·2,881 views

** A pair of heavily augmented bodyguards, their bodies having been turned into brutal chem-tech weapons by the brilliant, albeit deranged, scientist Singed.**

  1. ##Since when did Singed _The Mad Chemist _ study engineering?
  2. ##Why is he involved in building & selling human/machine hybrids?
  3. ##What does that mean for Zaun's leading scientist in Chemistry?
  4. ##And wasn't making cyborgs a Viktor and Prof. Stanwick thing?

Side note: When I read "Augment bodyguards, turned into chem-tech weapons" I visualized something like this guy in Ekko's release video:

http://i2.wp.com/www.cgmeetup.net/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/League-of-Legends-Ekko-Seconds-11.jpg

The above quote is the first post-retcon information we have got on the guy, besides the taunt in Yorick's new VO: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/9/9f/Yorick.tauntSinged01.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20160830195036 This taunt makes for a compelling hook but it doesn't shed any light on why he was experimenting with Hextech human & machine augmentations.

So here's where my thinking starts to go AWOL. When the Ekko video was released Riot had confirmed that that steampunk giant was known as a "Vigilnaut" made with Hextech and you would notice that the bodyguards mentioned in the above quote were described as:

Chem-tech weapons.

As in, enhancements with Chemtech could be something else entirely to Hextech? Or is that just a misleading phrase and I'm making things way too convoluted?

http://static4.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1551/15516851/2941765-lfs14.png I need my fellow lore nerds to help.

##Edit: I do want to emphasis, Riot has yet to confirm that Chem-Tech is in fact different to the assumption of Hextech enhancements. So please stop assuming that it is. That is until Narrative can explain, expand or confirm anything.

16 Comments

mr Boombastic7875 votes

Hex-tech is magic combined with technology and I think chem-tech is more of technology with chemistry(?)

Chem-tech cyborgs (or as riot would say chem-tech augmented people) are probably more like Bane from Batman. He have a venom tank on his back and injects venom in to his blood and that makes him superstrong. That the chem-tech cyborgs have inbuilt machines that also injects some sort of serum, elixir or potion.

Chem-tech is probably often combined with hextech. Making chem-tech infused with magic sounds really powerful.

I also want to talk about what you said about Viktor and Stanwick. The thing is Viktor believe in a world of steal and machine. He wants to make everyone cyborgs or robots. He even have sort of a religion (The glorious evolution) where he will save humanity from their body's and make them more powerful in machines. No idea about Stanwick though... He is probably killed or about to be killed by Viktor at this point. Stanwick have stolen a lot of science from Viktor and Viktor wants revenge. Singed on the other hand have built tech that he sells to people so they can use his tech to empower their own guards. (Or themselves) Singed is also a lot more chemical than Viktor. Viktor builds machines that shoots lacers and stuff while Singed amplify people's body's to infuse them with some sort of elixir.

Whyte Lyon2 votes

Perhaps instead of perceiving the Chem-Baron's bodyguards as this: http://i.imgur.com/vcAZ3NA.png I should have been visualizing something along the lines of these guys http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/f/f4/Darius_BioforgeSkin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160518025206 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/1/1a/Singed_AugmentedSkin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160521174724

At first I thought Hextech+Human engineering was the mad scientist cliché already used with Stanwick character (you're right, Viktor was more full machine rather then half). I also assumed Singed would remain the kind of personality that stuck to killing people as horribly and as painfully as possible, perhaps he wouldn't even care for human enhancements (and that is the Dr. Mundo thing lets not forget). I mean, at least biological warfare was different from the likes of all the other mad scientists in Zaun. But I guess Singed can jump on the Chemtech+human bandwagon too.

Oh well, I genuinely look forward to Riot expanding his character further in the near distant future. Fingers crossed for that to happen in Warwick's rework.

mr Boombastic7871 votes

I think Singed still is cruel and don't give a singel shiit about others pain or humanity. He can make alot of money from augmenting rich chembarons bodyguards. I also think his augmenting is painful and he can experiment with new stuff on the ones he augments.

Viktor is still a mad scientist that makes a cyborg (halfmachine) army. His ultimate goal though is that he wants everything to be fullmachine.

DrMundo does experiments on himself with chemical and biological serums that make him stronger (and more stupid) Singed on the other hand experiments on others to try to find the ultimat serum that will make him imortal. That is atleast what Yorick says.

333lom1 votes

Viktor does not want revenge, actually. That's his defining characteristic - he turns his scientific mind to bettering people (even though some see his idea of helping revolting).

You're right about chem-tech. It could also be possible that Singed is in fact cooperating with some engineers? Zaun is a city of scientists, after all; and Viktor is definitely not the first nor the only one who works with prosthetics. He went to college of Techmaturgy where he learned out that. There must be hundreds of other experts in that field. Viktor only claims he's the best one.

Singed is an amoral person, a true example of Zaun's mad scientist, where he doesn't care about human life, only about the results he wants. His chemicals often have a lot of negative side-effects.

Whyte Lyon1 votes

I do agree with what you said, Singed's old lore would imply a lack of human compassion.... **when it comes to poisons and chemistry. **

{quoted} Singed is an amoral person, a true example of Zaun's mad scientist, where he doesn't care about human life, only about the results he wants. His chemicals often have a lot of negative side-effects.

Yeah, those chemical side-effects had typically resulted in death or suffering. Not Human enhancements. This was the point of my entire post, I was questioning this odd turn of events for the character and what is almost a change in his personality.

333lom1 votes

I agree with your initial post, sorry I didn't write that. It really looks like Riot has been changing Singed behind the curtain. The last thing he did that we know about, was helping Noxus in the Ionian invasion, to kill people. Suddenly, now he's tinkering with human enhancements, and even seeking... eternal life? Judging by Yorick's taunt if I'm not mistaking. And I don't quite see this fitting Singed. It feels like an attempt to pin the stereotypical "all alchemists seek the philosopher's stone" trope onto Singed, just because he's a chemist.

mr Boombastic7871 votes

Viktor don't want revenge but he wants to "fix" humanity by making them machines. I don't know if you have played Viktor that much but he says "Condapt or be removed!" He want to help humanity but he dont understand how normal humens think. He makes people stronger, more powerful but he aint helping them. He forces people to remove bodyparts and changing them to robotics in a brutal way. Accually its not an evulution its an revulution. I love Viktor and his lore. I love his gamplay and his VO. I love him as a character but he aint no goodguy, he is accually a badguy or a anti-hero or maybe more like a anti-villain. He think he helps but he don't.

Viktor is one of my favorit champions in the game (im level 5 with him and can make him lvl 6 if I hade some blue essence) so it's not that im hating on him or anything. This is how I see Viktor and this is how I want him to be.

Malicious Metal4 votes

Viktor is more about Machinery and Hextech, augmenting the human body with precise and effective robotics.

Chem-Tech may be less refined and more geared towards pushing the human body beyond its limitations via chemicals and other types of drugs coupled with technological augments to actually deliver those doses of toxic stuff into the body and regulate said chemicals

Lùmen1 votes

Maybe Singed wants to create the ultimate Weapon. He is kind of like Viktor, now that I think of that

FattyPainBringer1 votes

well if you read singed lore it says clearly that when he ran out of people to experiment on he used himself.

Did you ever stop to think how chemicals are made?

Some need some high tech machines to be crafted.

And when your dealing with vik who has an ego the size of the planet it wouldnt be hard for singed to trade research data to make cyborgs.

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

would be hillarious to hear out serious board meetings with mundo and singed.

Trolosaurus1 votes

I don't know where, but I recall something about Singed desiring immortality? I'd need to find the source idk

Whyte Lyon1 votes

http://static4.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1551/15516851/2941759-lfs9.png

There is a link to that "source" already in my post.

Shadowkirby141 votes

I think this sheds some new light upon two Zaunite champions; Viktor and Singed.

Viktor Viktor, although misguided, just wanted to help humanity by improving them with hextech augmentations, be more superior than their former selves. This makes him more of a Lawful/True Neutral character than being just another Saturday-morning cartoon villain. From the looks of it, he does look like the kind of guy that wants to help amputees with augmentations.

Singed Singed, however, is the perfect example of an evil, mad scientist who doesn't care who he hurts, as long as his experiments succeed and aid Noxus with horrific acts against humanity. The Vigilnaut in Ekko: Seconds must be one of Singed's creations, using chemtech to not just improve, but mutate and beefing them up with chemicals and drugs, turning them into ruthless juggernauts.

I hope both Viktor and Singed become arch-rivals because of how Singed is turning people (and possibly hired criminals) into hulking, steroid-pumped abberations, while Viktor is trying to improve and help mankind with hextech augmentations and see the inhumanity Singed has brought.

Whyte Lyon1 votes

The Vigilnaut in Ekko: Seconds must be one of Singed's creations, using chemtech to not just improve, but mutate and beefing them up with chemicals and drugs, turning them into ruthless juggernauts.

Yes, in all likelihood Singed could have made the Vigilnaut (however we don't know for sure). But the problem is if you used that same description of Singed without mentioning him by name. I would have assumed you were talking about Viktor, Mundo, or even Stanwick. But I would never have guessed Singed!

Rita Book1 votes

Whatever the story, the big arm guy, or Vigilnaut, NEEDS to become a champion. PLEASE Riot! PLEASE!

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