What is this "Flame Level" That Aurelion Sol keep mentioning?

Igotlazy·Mar 18, 2016·7 votes·2,992 views

When Aurelion talks to other Dragons (Shyvana and the Dragon) he appears to rank them based on some type of "Flame Strength".

Shyvana: "Medium-flame, and that is me being generous."

Dragon: "You call yourself a dragon? You're low-flame at best."

Is there some universal Dragon ranking system based on power?

I'll just leave this headcannon here...

Rank 1 - Brilliant Flame (Power on a Universal Scale) [Aurelion Sol] Rank 2 - Grand Flame (Power on a Planetary Scale) [Ao Shin (assumed)] Rank 3 - High Flame (Power to Destroy a large country) [Strongest of terrestrial Dragons] Rank 4 - Medium Flame (Power to Destroy a city) [Shyvana and above average terrestrial Dragons] Rank 5 - Low Flame (Power to Destroy a couple of buildings) [The Dragon and average terrestrial Dragons] Rank 6 - Weak Flame (Minor property Damage) [Riggle]

Edit: Damn grammar errors :/

43 Comments

GreenLoreMar 18, 20169 votes

It's probably just him making fun of other dragons,by saying their fire isn't that hot.

EDIT: And I think these terms come from cooking.

ImTheSideKickMar 18, 20163 votes

White flame is the hottest followed by blue yellow orange and red

Charcoal fire 750–1,200 Methane (natural gas) 900–1,500 Bunsen burner flame 900–1,600 (depending on the air valve, open or close.) Propane blowtorch 1,200–1,700 Candle flame ~1,100 (majority), hot spots may be 1300–1400 Backdraft flame peak 1,700–1,950 Magnesium 1,900–2,300 Hydrogen torch Up to ~2,000 MAPP gas 2,020 Acetylene blowlamp/blowtorch Up to ~2,300 Oxyacetylene Up to 3,300

Dicyanoacetylene, a compound of carbon and nitrogen with chemical formula C4N2 burns in oxygen with a bright blue-white flame at a temperature of 5260 K (4986.85 °C, 9008.33 °F), and at up to 6000 K in ozone.[7] This high flame temperature is partially due to the absence of hydrogen in the fuel (dicyanoacetylene is not a hydrocarbon) thus there is no water among the combustion products.

AproximaMar 19, 20161 votes

This is nice but it's only a portion of the truth - that is if you only take the radiation of a black body into account. In case of fires in general there are reactions involved and the various resulting colors of the flame are often not because of their temperature. There are reactions in the burning gas cloud which emit light as a result relaxation of electrons.

Take the methane for example - it burns with nice blue flame (with sufficient amount of oxygen), but the temperature is nowhere near 5000°C. It's because (and I don't remember accurately) some carbon radical recombination is accompanied by blue light emission. Otherwise if you don't give it enough oxygen, soot will form temporarily and its particles act as black bodies resulting in the flame being orange-colored, which goes well with the observation.

Ebonmaw DragonMar 18, 20162 votes

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Rank 4 - Medium Flame (Power to Destroy a city) [Shyvana and above average terrestrial Dragons] Rank 5 - Low Flame (Power to Destroy a couple of buildings) (The Dragon and average terrestrial Dragons]

No man, you got it wrong:

The real ranking would be like this:

Rank 0 - Brilliant Flame (Godlike Dragon ) [Aurelion Sol] Rank 1 - Grand Flame (A Super Powerfull dragon who is Smart and with tons of experience) [Ao Shin, Ebonmaw maybe] Rank 2 - Large Flame (A dragon with a lot of experience and power) [Ao Shin, Ebonmaw] Rank 3 - Full Flame (The average dragon ) [The Dragon Shark of Fizz Lore, the Sea Dragon of Wu Lore, the Drake that killed the Daddy of Shyvana, the Daddy of Shyvana, etc] Rank 4 - Low Flame (A dragon that has not reached his full power yet) [The Summoner Rift Dragon] Rank 5 - Medium Flame (Not an actual flame, just the half of it... a halfbreed or a "teen" dragon) [Impurebloods like Shyvana, "Teeneager" Dragons] Rank 6 - Quarter Flame (The initial spark of the flame, a newborn dragon) [Riggle and the Dragon of Dragon Trainer Lulu]

Baron Von BanginMar 18, 20161 votes

You put low above medium, why?

He ranks Riggle as low and Shyvana as medium. I doubt he's saying Riggle is more powerful.

Ebonmaw DragonMar 18, 20161 votes

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You put low above medium, why?

He ranks Riggle as low and Shyvana as medium. I doubt he's saying Riggle is more powerful.

Because medium comes from the middle, which means that its incomplete... you know, a Half of something bigger.

Shyvana is not a Dragon, she is considered an abomination of the nature by the dragonkind, that is stated in her own lore. Its not about power, its about pride.

... And have you seen the power of the flames of Riggle? he is literally a machinegunflamethrowercannon... that IS powerfull for a baby.

Baron Von BanginMar 18, 20165 votes

You're really stretching it. Low is clearly a smaller caliber when compared to medium. Medium doesn't mean incomplete in any context. And I seriously doubt in any League canon a tiny baby dragon like Riggle would be more powerful than Shyvana is full unleashed dragon mode.

Ebonmaw DragonMar 18, 20162 votes

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You're really stretching it. Low is clearly a smaller caliber when compared to medium. Medium doesn't mean incomplete in any context. And I seriously doubt in any League canon a tiny baby dragon like Riggle would be more powerful than Shyvana is full unleashed dragon mode.

"Full unleashed dragon mode"? you mean... HALF dragon mode? Because she will never be full, NEVER.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/medium

noun, plural media [mee-dee-uh] (Show IPA), for 1–9, 11, mediums for 1–11, 14. 1. a **middle **state or condition; mean. 2. something intermediate in nature or degree.

That is literally the meaning of "medium", middle, a half. Medium Flame is the half of a Flame... and that is what shyvana is, a half dragon, not a full dragon.

A full dragon is more powerfull than a Half human, and that is a fact.

Baron Von BanginMar 18, 20164 votes

If you have flame and categorize it (like a Bunsen burner) by low, medium, and high guess which levels are hotter than low?

And if we're going to go by game mechanics, like when trying to explain Riggle's level of power, Shyvana becomes much more powerful than even the full dragon on the Rift. So even if she is a half dragon it appears she's much more powerful that even those six limbed freaks. :^)

Ebonmaw DragonMar 18, 20162 votes

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If you have flame and categorize it (like a Bunsen burner) by low, medium, and high guess which levels are hotter than low?

And if we're going to go by game mechanics, like when trying to explain Riggle's level of power, Shyvana becomes much more powerful than even the full dragon on the Rift. So even if she is a half dragon it appears she's much more powerful that even those six limbed freaks. :^)

Please, she is like a mutant lizzard bat, everyone knows that having 6 limbs is better than 4, that is why Machamp is more powerfull than Machoke. She cant even fly properly with those pseudo-wings.

Do not mix your cooking terms with dragons.

Baron Von BanginMar 18, 20163 votes

Bunsen burners are for chemistry.

And Aurelion Sol the guy who appears to be the first dragon only has four limbs soooooo...

Ebonmaw DragonMar 18, 20161 votes

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Bunsen burners are for chemistry.

And Aurelion Sol the guy who appears to be the first dragon only has four limbs soooooo...

And he got enslaved. That is what you got for having only 4 limbs.

6 Limbs its better than 4 Limbs

Low Flame its better than Medium Flame

Its basic math.

Bodkins OddsMar 18, 20164 votes

In English, low is never better than medium. It's basic grammar.

Ebonmaw DragonMar 19, 20161 votes

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In English, low is never better than medium. It's basic grammar.

In Dovahzul Medium is better than Low, its basic dragon gammar.

FasmodeyMar 19, 20161 votes

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In Dovahzul Medium is better than Low, its basic dragon gammar.

That's what he said already, or am I missing a sarcasm?

Ebonmaw DragonMar 19, 20161 votes

{quoted}

That's what he said already, or am I missing a sarcasm?

Its sarcasm.

FasmodeyMar 19, 20161 votes

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Its sarcasm.

Shh, it is k, I will not let them know that isn't a sarcasm.

It's k.

SharjoMar 19, 20162 votes

Having six limbs didn't exactly keep you from getting SACKED did it? HM?!

Low flame at best Ebonmaw. Low. Flame.

Ebonmaw DragonMar 19, 20162 votes

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Having six limbs didn't exactly keep you from getting SACKED did it? HM?!

Low flame at best Ebonmaw. Low. Flame.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvrfsv7mdR1qibz0jo1_r2_500.png

Baron Von BanginMar 19, 20161 votes

By that logic he got replaced by something even better... EIGHT LIMBS!

Rito StaffMar 19, 20161 votes

I think it goes low < medium < high

medium is half yes. Low is less than half.

And there's no 'medium fire' as all fires are complete. Turn on your gas, put it on the lowest possible, that's Low, put it on the highest possible, that's High, put it inbetween, that's Medium

Even in game difficulty, easy, medium and hard.

Medium refers to the middle term more than to the half of something in quality or quantity.

Rito StaffMar 19, 20161 votes

who's riggle?

GreenLoreMar 19, 20161 votes

I think thats dragon trainer tristanas dragon.

Rito StaffMar 19, 20161 votes

hm cool that he (or she?) has a name. Some skins are so epic, kinda sad they aren't cannon (imo)

GreenLoreMar 19, 20162 votes

But Riggle is cannon....or at least tristana uses him as one xD

Rito StaffMar 19, 20161 votes

Hahaha nice one

Bodkins OddsMar 19, 20161 votes

Her regular cannon has a name too, Boomer.

Rito StaffMar 19, 20161 votes

But it isn't alive D:: i find it cool that the dragon-gun has a name.

I wonder if its a yordle-dragon and if it has a fixed size... What will happen when/if he grows? o_o (tristana will fly instead of fire him cc:: riggles shin confrimed)

Sonicblaster33Mar 30, 20161 votes

I'm pretty sure Riggles is still a hatchling. He most likely will grow to be the size, if not larger, of the Dragon on the Rift

Kamiroo WolfMar 18, 20162 votes

I just wanna know what the hell this "Aspect" thing is when he refers to Taric,

Bodkins OddsMar 18, 20161 votes

It means he's been bonded with a Targonian diety, like Diana, Leona, and Pantheon.

Kamiroo WolfMar 18, 20161 votes

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It means he's been bonded with a Targonian diety, like Diana, Leona, and Pantheon.

Oh, seriously? Thanks for clearing that up ^_^

MhihnjMar 19, 20161 votes

well at least we know who will fill the empty slot in the mt. targon lore

SharjoMar 18, 20161 votes

It's likely just how Aurelion Sol judges how worthy the pale imitations of him are worthy his time and attention. Terrestrial dragons are not so directly related to Aurelion as they are sort of nature conforming to the way natural forces work, like how the logarithmic spiral can be seen in naturally occuring spirals, so if people are gonna lump terrestrial dragons in with Aurelion, he's damn well gonna have something to say about it, and he'll say whether he thinks these dragons are worthy of being considered of the same class of being as himself.

The SoulforgedMar 19, 20161 votes

City to country? What is with these power scalings, they are exponentially exponential!

DigielfMar 19, 20161 votes

He calls Dragon ''low flame'' when he can't even solo him ahahha

IgotlazyMar 19, 20161 votes

He can actually. Better than most Mages.

Penta PenguinMar 19, 20161 votes

It's dragon-humor...

Anyway I don't think Ao Shin would have been Grand Flame. Storm and wind powers can be strong but probably not strong enough to cause complete global catastrophe. Also Udyr is implied to have encountered / fought Ao Shin when Udyr reaches max power

Lajinn5Mar 19, 20161 votes

{quoted}

It's dragon-humor...

Anyway I don't think Ao Shin would have been Grand Flame. Storm and wind powers can be strong but probably not strong enough to cause complete global catastrophe. Also Udyr is implied to have encountered / fought Ao Shin when Udyr reaches max power

To be fair Udyr is basically a mage-monk. In other fantasy universes monks are probably some of the most disgusting character types that there are in terms of power level.

cuddlykitten4Mar 19, 20161 votes

It's how likely they are to ragequit and AFK the game. Dragons are bad about that.

The Bearded BardMar 19, 20161 votes

So what happens when Sol gets wrecked by Shyv or executed by dragon?

Sonicblaster33Mar 30, 20161 votes

Slain by Shyvana - "Darling, you have but set my hearts free." As far as being killed by Dragon, there is nothing.

Sonicblaster33Mar 30, 20161 votes

When he says "Medium Flame" to Shyvana, I'm guessing he is judging her actual fury/strength, or maybe how strong her fire is. If not, then I'm sure he is saying she isn't the greatest of dragons, but not below any of them either. Maybe if she was a full dragon, he would be a bit more accepting of her.