The Decapitator (AD item)

majoc··2 votes·1,494 views

Cost: 3400

Recipe: item 3123 + item 1053 + item 1038

  • 80 AD
  • 15 % Life Steal

Unique Passive - Hemoragy: Physical damage inflicts Grievous Wounds on the enemy champion for 4 seconds and applies a bleed which deals 5 % of their max health over 3 seconds. Unique Passive - Decapitation: Basic attacks execute minions below 40% health.

Thoughts?

14 Comments

reba0421 votes

Seems a bit overpowered. Would be better if you could execute minions below 30% and on only melee champions.

715rock1 votes

I like the idea, but problems arise when you are faced with super minions. The 40% health execute is unreasonably, but making it a 25% health execute range on normal minion would balance it. Also, maybe changing it from a max health % on the bleed to a % of missing health would give it a more “execution” vibe. And I think the unique passive should have some kind of cooldown.

majoc1 votes

It would be 25% health for super minions I suppose. As for the max health or missing health, it might be a little weird to be out of the missing health. Cooldown wise, Decapitation could have a 1 second cooldown.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

The decapitation passive seems pretty damn useless, considering you have 80 AD at that point.

The Hemoragy passive would just make Tanks more useless than they already are.

People would probably rather buy Bloodthirster/Death's Dance for the better stats and just buy a Mortal Reminder/Lord Dominik's Regards for the Armor Pen.

Overall, I'm not really feeling this item.

majoc1 votes

First of all, Decapitation works on siege/cannon minions and Super Minions. You ain't 1-2 shotting those.

Secondly, tanks are not useless, jeez.

As for "Would rather buy Blood Thirster/Death's Dance", it's situational. If they have a ton of heals you'll want grievous wounds and if you get a simple executioner's, you'll have a dead slot in late game and you'd have to sell it.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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First of all, Decapitation works on siege/cannon minions and Super Minions. You ain't 1-2 shotting those.'

I know.

But cannon minions aren't that hard to kill as you might make them out to be. Whereas a caster minion might take 2 shots, a cannon minion only takes 7-8 shots with 80 AD.

And super minions only happen when your inhibitor gets destroyed and they're only there for like 5 minutes.

It just seems way too situational, and 40% is a really odd number.

Secondly, tanks are not useless, jeez.

Win rates say otherwise.

https://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

There isn't a single tank in the top 10 win rates.

The first Tanks come in at place 19 and 20 and it's Poppy and Sion being played in a role they're not even meant to be in.

You won't see another Tank until place 52 with Singed.

Consequently, however, many of the lowest win rate champions right now are Tanks:

https://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=ascend

The third, fifth, eighth and tenth worst win rates in the entire game are held by Tanks.

This is not to mention their low play rates as well.

Tanks are pretty damn useless if you ask me.

If they have a ton of heals you'll want grievous wounds and if you get a simple executioner's, you'll have a dead slot in late game and you'd have to sell it.

I don't know what you mean by "dead slot in the late game and you'd have to sell it".

Please elaborate.

majoc1 votes

Tanks are good if played well. Show me a team at the world championship without at least 1 tank in every game (Or at least off-tank). If people who play tanks in low ELO go charging in for the sole purpose that "They're Tank" of course they'll feed resulting in lost a lane and most likely ending up being useless. If a tank is ahead you'll need to catch him alone and gank to kill him.

As for "Dead Slot" I mean that in mid game you might be 1 slot short and not be able to buy a component of a full item, and in late game you will have to sell it and give up grievous wounds.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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Tanks are good if played well. Show me a team at the world championship without at least 1 tank in every game (Or at least off-tank). If people who play tanks in low ELO go charging in for the sole purpose that "They're Tank" of course they'll feed resulting in lost a lane and most likely ending up being useless. If a tank is ahead you'll need to catch him alone and gank to kill him.

Pro play only applies to 0.0000000001% of the playerbase, if not less.

I wouldn't say it counts in terms of Tanks being useful overall.

As for "Dead Slot" I mean that in mid game you might be 1 slot short and not be able to buy a component of a full item, and in late game you will have to sell it and give up grievous wounds.

I fail to see how the addition of this Decapitator item fixes this issue.

That, or I'm still not getting what you're trying to say.

majoc1 votes

I am not saying tanks aren't in a bad state, but it's not like they're useless.

About how it "fixes the issue" ... Well it's basically a fully built item that you can actually keep, since the executioner's is a cheap item that besides grievous only has 15 AD.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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I am not saying tanks aren't in a bad state, but it's not like they're useless.

About how it "fixes the issue" ... Well it's basically a fully built item that you can actually keep, since the executioner's is a cheap item that besides grievous only has 15 AD.

But can't you just build the Executioner's into a Mortal Reminder for some sick nasty Armor Pen and some extra AD, whilst still keeping the Grievous Wounds?

It's also 500 gold cheaper.

majoc1 votes

Lolol I totally forgot about the existence of mortal reminder, MEGA WHOOPS. Anyways, yeah, armor pen is sick but this is still an option.

majoc1 votes

How is garen not a tank to you btw ...

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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How is garen not a tank to you btw ...

Garen is a Juggernaut.

DragonBound11 votes

Remember giants slayer anyone?, because hemoragy, sounds similar I mean if you balanced it,because of that one percision rune, which might make it op it might be good

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