Make a way to sell champs?

Madderhatter·Oct 24, 2017·1 votes·287 views

I've been playing a lot of aram...and getting a lot of champs I hate to play... Also I want to get certain skins that I would have more of a chance of getting with mystery gifts if I didnt have a lot of extra champs. If I could sell off all but 20 of my champs I would. Especially with the new season coming out it seems reasonable that I should be able to get rid of clutter and champs I will never play?

it doesnt seem right that I should be penalized for buying champs to test them out then find out they're not really my thing and then they just sit there taxing me in my inventory.

6 Comments

GigglingdeathOct 24, 20172 votes

Hum, this is an interesting concept, however, there are 3 refunds you can get and I /think/ it includes champion purchases, although I'm unsure if it includes IP purchases. As for testing out new champs, I also think the week after a champ is released (or two?) the champ generally goes into free rotation. I know in hindsight it doesn't do you much good but it's always good to keep in mind if you decide to create a new account and forgo the one you have already. I do think it's an interesting idea. Would you think that an IP refund of 50% to be substantial for "selling back" champions? And what about if you decide to repurchase them in the future, do you want an additional discount for repurchase or would you be fine with paying the full amount on buying them again? I don't see why this could necessarily hurt riot /if/ they were able to limit it to maybe once per month (so you don't abuse the system and return all your champs except 20 of them). Is there anything I'm missing that would cause chaos for riot?

Edit: Also RP purchases for a champion would still refund 50% IP purchase amount so that money returns don't become a problem.

MadderhatterOct 24, 20171 votes

I played a lot of world of tanks, and you sell tanks at like half price, and yeah you pay full price if you buy them again, I dont see why this should be any different with champs.

In wot a lot of people just wait for sales, but them at half off, then sell them when they're normal price so they dont lose any money if they dont like it.

ModThe DjinnOct 24, 20171 votes

{quoted}Is there anything I'm missing that would cause chaos for riot?

A few things.

What happens to skins you own for that champion?
Most players only play a few "mains" at a time, making it really easy to IP juggle to get everything you need at any one time, which cuts into revenue.
Players have smaller pools as a result, which hurts ranked games and the ability to trade with allies.
Players have fewer champions, so less incentive to break out an old pick when a cool new skin or update comes out for them.
Someone who hacks an account can do even more damage than they can currently do.

GigglingdeathOct 24, 20171 votes

All great points. That's why I asked. I figured a majority of people wouldn't return a champ they had a skin for, nor would they return all the champs they had all the time. You know what I mean? I think they more mean "I bought skarner... he sucks... I don't want to get him in aram... EVER. Let me return plz". However, I could have just assumed this because that's what I would have liked to do a long time ago before I bought all the champions.

ModThe DjinnOct 24, 20171 votes

{quoted}However, I could have just assumed this because that's what I would have liked to do a long time ago before I bought all the champions.

Yep! Whenever you do conceptual design work for this sort of thing, always try to think of the weird edge cases and potential abuses cases -- it's really helpful for figuring out what will work or not.

Not that the idea ISN'T workable, but we'd need some more restrictions on how it works to avoid these edge case abuses. :)

GigglingdeathOct 24, 20171 votes

Let me try and fix the edge cases? (or possible solutions?)

I mean, if you had a skin for the champion, you could always put the skin in limbo so if they ever rebuy the champion they are accessible again? (Not sure how that'd work coding wise). Sort of like the champion borders currently (you eventually buy the skin you get the border)
If you only allow the three original refunds and then add an additional one or two every year this would prevent IP juggling and allow you to really only return the champs you just... don't care for at all.
One or two less per year tops? Have a restriction time on redemption? So even if you have say... 7 returns hoarded you can only "collect" on them maximum once per month? (RP purchases excluded ofc) In this system you'd get the 3 returns you can have originally (RP or IP) plus an additional one or two IP returns per year. This keeps the RP returns down because that hurts rito (unless ofc you get refunded with IP and not RP for those, so essentially you spent your money and got IP instead of a champ)?
See point 3 maybe?
Having a time restriction on returns/refunds would also solve this problem. (Aka once per month tops). Usually accounts will be recovered by then I would think.

Do any of those offer solutions? I'm honestly just thinking. :o This is fun. It's like a game/challenge.