[Champion Concept] Khurdan, Profligate of the Desert

Madanach··5 votes·1,083 views

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##Abilities I have done the ability explanations in the same style as on the League of Legends wikia so it's easier to understand and nicer to look at.

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##Appearance Khurdan is a renowned tomb raider who pillages ruins deep within the deserts of Shurima, making ends by selling oddities he finds to merchants in the nearby villages. He is a man of muscular build who has grown to endure the harsh environment of Shurima; an ideal trait for someone in his line of work. He wears a dark beige cloak with a hood that falls over his eyes. A short, skin-tight tunic lies under his cloak as well as a pair of tanned breaches which are fastened by a leather belt. He protects his feet with a pair of light brown plimsolls which allow him to trudge the desert more easily.

Khurdan’s infamy stems from his weapon, Perdition, which he found within a ruin. The weapon is made up of a metal staff with two blades on either end. Each blade can be ejected with considerable force; both able to take down a fully grown Ralsiji. The blades are tethered to retractable chains, allowing them to fit back into place on their own. The weapon is presumed to be the only one in existence as no other has been unearthed since. Khurdan’s finding of the weapon has made him a target for would-be treasure hunters. Many have tried to take the weapon by force but failed; their fates have all been the same.

I designed Khurdan to be a mix between fighter and assassin. He is primarily intended to be a solo laner but can also be played as a jungler. Khurdan is very vulnerable early game as he is a melee champion with no form of defence or sustain. He is also not particularly good at trading as Sunder requires the enemy champion to be below a certain health threshold to use and without it he can't get the bonus damage on Sever. With this in mind he takes some items and levels to really become impact, making him a formidable champion late game.


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##Notes

  • I previously uploaded this concept but I have made quite a lot of changes to the kit since then.
  • Sort of frustrating when someone's "feedback" gets more upvotes than the concept even though they don't understand basic concepts like bonus AD.

20 Comments

TheRossJanitor9 votes

Passive may seem small, but is actually really overpowered. This will deny enemy champion powerspikes, while also speeding yours up REALLY fast. He will almost never fall behind. Q = Katarina's Q, E, W all in one ability. W = Fizz dash. (did i mention this guy has way too much mobility) (will most likely have invincibility frames, no bueno.) E = Since this ability relies on W, it isn't too bad. R = Passive is insanely broken. Lethality is super meta right now, and combining this with Youmuus, Duskblade and Edge? Insane powerspike and guaranteed oneshot on any squishy. Too much damage. 400 + 150% bonus ad is literally a oneshot on any squishy with enough AD. I'm assuming this guy is played mid, where the average health at level 6 is 1000, give or take. With Youmuu's, this guy's AD will be 137. He will do 406 damage with his ult. Combined with his lethality passive, along with his insane slow and you have one easy lane. This is not even taking into account his mobility.

Has potential, but his kit is overloaded, especially in this lethality meta. Can stick to any squishy and ultimate guarantees a kill. Pretty much AD Veigar with crazy mobility.

TheRossJanitor4 votes

Oh, one more thing. Impossible to gank because of E stun and Q mobility. Would be better if Q targeted champions, even if that got rid of the skillshot.

While not apparently the best at trading, he will almost always win lane because of his passive. One kill is enough to ruin any mid laner's game.

Madanach2 votes

Thank you for your feedback and insight although I completely disagree with you on most of your points, aha. With the ultimate I think you misunderstand how lethality and damage works.

Also, what games are you in where you already have a Youmuu's Ghostblade at level 6? If you have a Youmuu's at 6 minutes then you most probably have 10 kills which sort of throws your argument about damage balancing out the window. You're practically saying "Wtf this Veigar with Luden's Echo level 6 is one-shotting a Syndra at half health". Like... how does he have a Luden's this early without being massively fed?

Passive may seem small, but is actually really overpowered.

Whether or not a passive is overpowered or not usually revolves around the rest of the kit and what items they buy, not just one thing. Is Fizz's E overpowered? It is a dash, can be used to cross terrain, does damage, slows, and makes him untargetable. Of course it isn't overpowered because it is balanced around the rest of his kit.

Although, I think Khurdan's passive is strong, it most definitely is not overpowered. Before 5 minutes and whenever your opponent backs they will have almost no gold. So if you manage to get a kill, the gold stolen will be so small that it will not be noticeable. Your opponent would need to have over 1000 gold for it to be considered a substantial amount where they lose 50 gold and you gain 100.

Then compare this to Twisted Fate's passive: he gets 200 gold just for killing 50 minions. Draven's passive: he can get 350 bonus gold off just one kill with 150 stacks.

Hell, if you showed me Darius's passive before he was released I would have said it was overpowered. That thing gives 30 attack damage level 1 and 200 attack damage level 18. That along with the bleed affect which can apply Cleave stacks and doubles his ultimate damage is good throughout the game. Compare this to Khurdan's passive which doesn't give any damage or utility and is only useful between 10 - 40 minutes.

Q = Katarina's Q, E, W all in one ability.

They're completely different in the way they work though. I just think it's unfair to say this is "Kat Q, E, W" when their damage, interactions, costs, and cooldowns are completely different. Especially with the way Katarina's passive works; it makes these basic abilities stronger than they appear.

If anything the ability is similar to Lee Sin Q. Except instead of a dash it is a blink. To make up for this it does less damage overall and Lee gets to decide whether or not to reactivate the ability whilst Khurdan is forced to go in. Let's not forget Lee's Q grants vision too.

W = Fizz dash. (did i mention this guy has way too much mobility) (will most likely have invincibility frames, no bueno.)

He can only use it only enemies below a certain percent of health so it isn't the same. It also has a 1 second static cooldown so you can't just spam it like a Yasuo dash. It doesn't apply on-hit and spell effects like Fizz's does which is what gives Fizz's dash its power when coupled with Lich Bane. Also you can't use invincibility frames as an argument.

Both Khurdan's forms of mobility are extremely situational, probably the most situational out of any champion in the game so I don't see how he has "too much mobility".

R = Passive is insanely broken. Lethality is super meta right now, and combining this with Youmuus, Duskblade and Edge? Insane powerspike and guaranteed oneshot on any squishy. Too much damage. 400 + 150% bonus ad is literally a oneshot on any squishy with enough AD. I'm assuming this guy is played mid, where the average health at level 6 is 1000, give or take. With Youmuu's, this guy's AD will be 137. He will do 406 damage with his ult. Combined with his lethality passive

Yes the ultimate passive is strong but remember, it only gives 20 lethality when your W is rank 5 with 0 current charges and you have 3 ranks in your ultimate.

The lethality is only 2 per missing charge so a maximum of 6 lethality level 6 because you can only have rank 3 Sunder this early. Lethality scales with levels so it's not going to have that much of an impact this early on, especially when it requires you to have 0 charges to get the full amount. Like... you can legit get more lethality from red runes.

Compare this passive to the one of Zed's. He can get like 60 bonus AD for killing a full item Twitch. This comes on par with Khurdan's ultimate passive except Khurdan only gets the bonus by using W charges whilst Zed gets this AD permanently.

I don't think you understand how bonus AD works. Bonus AD IS NOT the same as AD. Also not sure how you are getting a Youmuu's level 6 but okay. The ultimate only does 200 + 150% bonus AD at rank 1, which is actually not that much considering it's a skillshot which can be dodged.

Like... you will only have a Serrated Dirk this early into the game so your bonus AD will be around 40. Your ultimate will do roughly 200 (+60) damage not this random 406 you have. Then after damage mitigation it will do a lot less, probably around 195 damage. So these numbers you've come up with are complete shit and totally off.

Hell, I'll even do the damage calculation:

If you're against a Syndra she will be around 50 armour level 6. In terms of lethiality, assuming you get the full amount of 6 from Sunder, 6 from masteries, and 10 from Serrated Dirk. You will have 22 lethality which is 16 armour pen at level 6.

260 x 100/(100 + 50 - 16) = 194 post mitigation damage

That's not a one-shot, buddy. Not even close.

Okay at this point I can see you don't know much about this game given your "feedback".

Oh, one more thing. Impossible to gank because of E stun and Q mobility. Would be better if Q targeted champions, even if that got rid of the skillshot.

That's wrong though. If you gank Khurdan before he is level 9 he won't have rank 5 Sunder yet. He therefore cannot dash through you as you are most probably above the damage threshold for him to use the ability. With that is mind, he won't be able to stun you with his E, which also happens to be a skillshot. With your logic you can never gank a Syndra when she has her E up.

I'm not sure how his Q helps him escape a gank when there are no enemies for him to use it on when retreating to his tower. Bear in mind the ability has a cast time and takes time to travel to its destination, during this time Khurdan will most likely be dead.

You do realise there are champions that are picked for their safe laning phases? Not every champ has to 100% die the moment they get ganked. Some people consider Kassadin ungankable so they usually avoid doing so. Does that make him OP? No. It is just something you have to play around.

While not apparently the best at trading, he will almost always win lane because of his passive.

Put Khurdan against any ranged champion or mage and he will lose, he has no defence so will just be poked out of lane. He won't be allowed to farm as he has no way of farming at a distance so the odds are he won't even get a kill. He can't win lane off of his passive because the power from his passive comes from him getting a kill, not from before getting a kill. So the whole "almost always win lane because of his passive" doesn't even make sense.

but his kit is overloaded

Overall I don't think his kit is overloaded; in comparison to champions like Ekko it almost seems underloaded.

goon bush1 votes

WRONG!

Madanach1 votes

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Tilwald2 votes

Damn.

Madanach3 votes

Well I just went in game prove that it doesn't do 406 damage. I used Poppy as her ult does 200 base damage. It only has 90% bonus AD scaling so I just bought Long Swords to bring it up to the 60 damage it would do if it were 150% bonus AD.

This screenshot shows that Poppy has 16 armour pen, which is the correct amount level 6 with 22 lethality.

http://i.imgur.com/91xcbIe.png

Here is a screenshot of Poppy's ult doing 200 (+59) damage. The 1 damage missing is made up by me using 0.3 more lethality than needed.

http://i.imgur.com/JAyJRSe.png

This shows the Jarvan's health before I ult him. Which is 927, no minions here to damage him. Bear in mind bots don't take runes so he is actually quite low on armour.

http://i.imgur.com/3FKSy0r.jpg

Now this shows the health of Jarvan after I ult.

http://i.imgur.com/YwQTOHS.jpg

Oh would you look at that. It's 732.

927 - 732 = 195 damage dealt.

Wow, it's almost like it's it doesn't do 406 damage. Just goes to show that the ultimate active and passive isn't that strong this early into the game.

Friendly Ram2 votes

Great formatting.

P: i really don't like this mechanic because it forces your opponent to back early or risk you dominating lane permanently. Q:So if i look at this like a single target gnar boomerang is that a good idea? is the blink automatic or a recast ability? W: i like what your aiming for as a pursuit mechanism but is it a point and click? what happens when they're outside of the dash?
E:i really like this as it encourages being in the heat of battle and is very unique. R: impale two champs? i like this.

Madanach1 votes

Thank you for your feedback.

The blink is automatic if it hits something. You don't get to choose whether to blink or not.

The dash works the same way as Fizz Q and Yasuo E. Can only cast it on enemies within the range but you will dash the fixed 500 units in their direction. So no matter what you will be 500 units away from where you originally used the ability irrelevant of how close the enemy was to you when you used it on them.

An enemy can be knocked out of the dash range, so with the wording I used it doesn't imply you travel with them to their new destination like a Warwick Q.

For example, you may cast Sunder on Ezreal as he is Arcane Shifting. You will dash the full amount of 500 units in the direction of where he was but you will not travel with him to where he blinked to.

Think of it like a Gragas E. Gragas has to dash the full amount, he can't just do a half dash (unless he collides with something of course but let's forget about that). For Sunder you can only use the dash on an enemy, but like Gragas E it has to go the full amount, he can't just do a half dash.

Kloqdq1 votes

It's a neat idea for an assassin. I am not sure how I completely feel about it though. A lot of the abilities are neat and I can imagine them being pretty cool in practice. My issue is they just seem to mesh with other designs better (At least in my mind).

Madanach1 votes

Other designs?

Kloqdq1 votes

Like other champions with other kits. This guy has too many concepts going back and forth in my mind. I would personal stick with the knives and chains and work around those.

Madanach1 votes

Not sure what you mean. He only carries two types of weapon. Knives and a dual-bladed staff. Like I said in the appearance, the staff is:

"made up of a metal staff with two blades on either end. Each blade can be ejected with considerable force; both able to take down a fully grown Ralsiji. The blades are tethered to retractable chains, allowing them to fit back into place on their own."

All of his abilities revolve around these two weapons. The whole chain thing is part of the staff. The only thing that doesn't revolve around the dagger or staff is his innate. But that ties in with his lore and character.

Rektagon2 votes

I'd say this too, but I'm sold on the design - good job OP.

Madanach1 votes

Thank you!

Mystic Falco1 votes

This is really cool. If you don't mind me asking I need help on a vampire concept? I also would like to know what people think? https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/tlE6rvtg-kyren-the-mistwalker

Rektagon1 votes

I don't think this guy would get on with Sivir XD

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