Quinn Rework 2.0

BlackNova98··3 votes·924 views

Hi, as you know from now, Quinn was reworked for the marksman update. The new Quinn was powerfull on the beginning of the update until few patch later she was bad to be played, she was getting harassed to much, cc, and etc, and I dont think there are anymore other people playing Quinn lately, maybe like 10% of 100%. I have seen through a lot of feedback from other people of what was their opinion/meaning about Quinns rework. Some people said that Quinn got nerfed really hard without the valor kit, and how she has no escape abilities other than her E. Some say also that the reworked Quinn was good, because the damage of Quinn has been better, but they also said, that her ult has no right to be called an ult anymore, due to the removal of the valor kit in exchange to roaming ability that has not so much of a use in teamfighting, but for splitpushing and roaming. The point of this discussion is to convice Rito/ Riot to make a new Quinn rework, where her old ult will be patched back again They can keep the animation of quinn and valor soaring together if thats what they want to match up the lore, were it says that they are fighting together. My suggestion for the rework is, that Quinn gets her old ult back where she can call valor for asistance and have valor his own kit, where he can use damage. I dont care if they want the quinn and valor animation, but we all Quinn players want our old Quinns ult. They can even make it just like Elise and Nidalees ult, if that fits Quinn. And last of all more range of the attack and more health.

I hope that Rito/Riot may read this, and that they may reconcider a new rework for Quinn.

Sincerely, Me

12 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

Honestly, at this point, I really like Quinn how she is, as do a lot of Quinn mains. We all have little nitpicks here and there, but by an large, we view the rework as a success. Hell, she's even seeing play in the LCS and LCK. That's something right there

BlackNova981 votes

True, but dont you miss valor in game?

Valor Bot3 votes

A lot of us Quinn players like the changes made to her kit, but at the same time, a lot of us don't. It's a mixed bag, really--and claiming that the majority of us think it was a success would probably be misleading, because even if it's the prevailing notion over at /r/QuinnMains, that's just a small sample size relatively.

Contrary to the OP's belief, though, Quinn's certainly gained some popularity after the update due to the fact her kit's more linear now and she's seeing pro play, not to mention that she's a pure ranged Champion now, so her role is much clearer during fights. But there is something to be said about the 'feel' involved with playing the Champion, which I think is what the OP was trying to get at. Undeniably, it is not quite the same.

Árchangel Avacyn2 votes

It's not even a prevailing notion there, I'd err on the side of people liking it being the minority and playing against her certainly hasn't got any more fun either. There are a lot of things I like about the update such as all the QoL changes and bug fixes but none of that warranted a complete overhaul of the ult. Overall I think that the update failed to deliver on a lot of fronts and reeks of the same trouble as the Morde update where a metashift will make her un-viable and even less fun and Riot won't even bother to acknowledge it.

To directly Quote one of the comments Repertoir made prior to the rework: 'In her changes, we're trying to mostly preserve what is cool and fun about the character while hopefully making the whole package make a bit more sense, especially from a gameplay perspective.' I think that if this was the goal then I can really call it a failure, her role may be more clear but her kit doesn't interact with itself in any meaningful way outside of Harrier and the ultimate is completely detached and feels completely alien to the rest of her abilities. Some of the main things that made Quinn 'cool and fun' were Tag Team, Harrier and her Blind and the fact that all of these things were completely absent or so gimped that they no longer mattered(those 10 damage Harrier marks) on the first few updates on the PBE really says to me that Riot either had absolutely no idea what people liked about Quinn or simply didn't care. Only an outsider would look at Tag Team and say that it makes no sense, as a champion Valor was terrible as he was essentially Master Yi without defensive tools, but that only applied if you looked at him in a vacuum without considering that you only had to be Valor when you wanted to. The true art of playing old Quinn was knowing when to be Quinn and when to be Valor, when to kite back and play it safe and when to let loose and go all in, there was a skill cap there that no longer exists in any form in this new iteration and that is what is truly tragic. I wanted to play Quinn and Valor, not Quinn and Valet but sadly we live in a world where Riot didn't learn the lesson of early feedback until after butchering Quinn's thematic and playstyle.

BlackNova981 votes

Thats what I felt about the update for Quinn. I was literally shocked when they took away the fun stuff with her(tag team). The only main problems with Quinn back then was her range of the auto attack, health and damage. Thx to riot they did work on her damage by the harier procs on every ability, it could have been the whole update. Instead they gave her i think a nerf for her, because her ulti now literally just for mobility and split pushing, back then she had everything from mobility, split pushing but also damage and escape.

Árchangel Avacyn1 votes

Don't kid yourself, she's not weaker, just less fun and no longer fits her theme as well.

Gehco1 votes

I do miss the perks of tag team and playing as valor which felt very appropriate with her lore, but I also don't hate these new changes as much. I wouldn't hate a revert but its not going to happen bro, you can bet on it.

MiTsuO Akai1 votes

I would like the old ult back.. Keep everything else the way it is...

BlackNova981 votes

yeah, thats what i was thinking. keep everything else like the harrier proc, but give the old ult back

Muted Summoner1 votes

Quin atm is honestly fine. Just my opinion. Shes better than ever. Shes a great assassin vs adc/non mobile armor-less targets.

As an adc she is just bland against Caits God all mighty range. Cait feels just toxic or oppressive to play against atm imo. I think I'd rather cut the webbing in between my toes instead of play against a good Cait. Please riot im joking....

Çhåryzård1 votes

I play Quinn as adc and do well in most of my games...

As long as you get a kill or two early you'll be ok later. Also if you know what you're doing because that always helps XD.

Tbh I like her better after the update and ulting once homeguard takes effect is the best because you get over 1000 movement speed for a few seconds lol.

BlackNova982 votes

To be honest, i really love that Quinn is fun with having a good amount of mobility, and split push fast and do ganks, but it feels like she lost the other half of herself, i mean the valor kit, from all the years i played the old Quinn

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