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Vulthane (champ idea)

ACB Nimbus·8/24/2015, 6:26:54 AM·1 votes·757 views

Wassap, so last night i had a dream about a champion in lol, which i played in the game. In my dream it was called philip pheonix (no idea why), but in the title i named him something more fitting, Vulthane. Thane as a reference to creature from heroes of might and magic fortress, and vul as in vulcanic, so he would be a fire oriented champ. In the dream he looked like vi, with a nidalee standing pose, a flaming hand and a yasuo katana for another hand, and that looked stupid. Anyway, about the skills, q and ult were visible in the dream, other i need to think out. But for starters here is what i think:

Passive - every skill and every 10 attacks, he applies a true damage fire, something like a red buffs thing, but a little bit weaker. Champions who die from this fire, would increase the power of this passive. Something like a stacking system. Lets say a champ has 100 hp, you hit him 97, the passive burns 3, champ dies, you get a stack, but if your basic attack or skillshot kills the target without the passive getting to work, you dont get a stack. This is kinda hard to achieve so a stack should be a strong power spike.

Q - a straight line skillshot, similar to j4 q, but instead of armor shread, it would apply his passive on the last champion hit.

W - marks an area for a volcanic impact, and after some time (lets say 3secs) the area emerges with lava, stunning anyone in the centre, slowing others and dealing damage and applying his passive.

E - release a fire bolt in a straight line, flying until it hits the first champion and marking them or reaching it's range limit. If the champion hit is a friendly, he can activate the ability again, to cloak them in a magma shield. The shield applies his passive on any enemy champions that come to close. If e hits an enemy champ, it would deal some damage, apply the passive and mark them. Upon second activation, vulthane fires an underground magma stream, to the hit champion dealing damage and slowing after impact, leaving a trail for vulthane and his team to follow. The trail grants extra movement speed.

R - can only activate if 2 or more champs have his passive applied. Upon activation, anyone who has his passive applied, get their live force connected, and sharing any damage or cc from vulthane and his team for 3 seconds( the time is debetable). Lets say 3 people have his passive and vulthane hits his ult. Your team adc hits one of the 3 for 1k damage, that means all 3 of them get 333 damage. Now your team garen hits a 3 second silence on the same target, meaning they all get silenced for 1 second.

Well this is it, i think. Everything here is a prototype, so it can change completely. The main question is the ult, is it possible to implement. Any suggestions are always welcome, thank you for your time and please tell me what you think

5 Comments

Wicked burger8/24/2015, 8:14:32 AM2 votes

I like this champ idea, but it need some fixis. About his spells there it is also about cd and mana cost. Q - Seems ok. W- If it would be visible from start 3 seconds is a lot. Well here is possibility 1) If it could be seen from start(like brand's W) it could stun everyone for like 1,5 sec, but it would have higher cd. Because only someone who walks in it would be stuned, but also other cc can hold them. 2) If it would be visible in the last second or like this(like ekko's W) i would let it be like this. E - Would be high cd like 15 secs because it does a lot: damage,damage and slow, speed up. Maybe put the damage and passive,possibly slow(higher cd), and after reactivation the trail with speed. R - The sharing is kinda broken because it can save someone and broke combos. So it could deal same damage and cc, but have high cd like 150 sec(i am not best maybe it could be lower like 120 secs) or it would deal like 80% of damage and 50% of cd to everyone so if 1000 damage it would deal 800 to everyone and with ashe stun for 3 secs it would stun them for 1,5 sec. Because you could perma stun them or like this with 100% cc so the cc should be lower.

Don't wanna ruin your champ, just I have some experience from my champion and I give you my opinion how it would be probably better. I don't know if you have done any champ before. A good way to do champs is to compare their abilities to similare abilities from the existing champions.

Godking Yuuumie8/24/2015, 6:15:50 PM1 votes

ok, first of I don't wanna burst your bubble but this champ doesn't work for one reason: He is to similar to brand. A fire based character with a passive that deals dot damage, a skillshot (brands q), an eruption at target location (brands W). However, that doesn't mean that the skills them self are bad nececerly so lets go over them. His passive seems good, but i dunno if i'm just reading it wrong but I understood it as he only gets the permanent bonus from his passive if he kills something WITH IT, not just as it is ticking down but maybe that is on me. If I understood it correcty I think it would be to hard to pull of honestly, so I'd change it so that it just works if they are afflicted by it. Also i'm curius what this passive bonus would be.

HIs Q have a big problem. It's generic. I know that sounds harsch but its the truth if you ask me. There are so many straigh line skillshots that you really have to work to get something cool and interesting. I was gonna give you my thoughts on how you can change his Q but honestly, these kinds of spells are so overdone that I can't even come up with somehting that would work. Also why would it be special that it applies his passive if all his spells do that? So its just raw damage that applies a passive taht all other abilities apply? I'm sorry but you have to be a bit more innoventive than that.

His W has this problem to a lesser extend as it seems to be a mix of Nasus's, Xerath's and Brand's W, so its not unoriginal per say but neither is it very inventive. But I geuss it would be much to ask a random person on the internet to come up with cool, new ideas for abilities that are also balanced and works well with the rest of the game so it gets a pass from me.

His E seems cool, kinda like Lulu's W as it has diffrent effects on diffrent champions. My only gripe is that I don't think having a skillshot defence buff would work. Plus, since its a skillshot, he can't apply it to himself? And i'm going to assume that he is a solo lane champion so I don't see how that would work. Just make it a targeted spell I say and rework the offensive version of the spell. Or you know what? You could remove it. I'll ad more thoughts on that later.

His R is really cool, not gonna lie. It runs the risk of getting superpowerful with like a Vlad, Amumu and MF comp or a perma stun comp. On the flip side, it could be devestating for YOUR team as it may leave all of the opponents with low hp but none of them dead. The biggest problem is the perma stun tho. Maybe make it so if enemies are repeatedly stunned by this effect, the shared stunns become weaker? Just a though.

Conclusion: I say that you should just scratch his Q and W and then rework his his Q W, passive and E to make him a support champ. His passive and ultimate combo seems somewhat balanced as it could be uber powerful but it would be kinda hard to manage, especielly if you get your passive on to too many enemies. Maybe make the ultimate a toggle on and off spell and have a litle stat bar that shoows how many champions are currently afflicted by your passive to make it easier to use.

Now that I've made a long winded comment I would just like to say that if i come off as insulting, I did not mean for it to come off that way. Just meant as honest critism. And now I'd like to ask you for a favor. Look at my champion ideas and tell me your thoughts if you'd like to (shameless I know). If you decide to do so I would be most thankful as i get almost no comments on any of my champions ideas wich is probobly the worst thing ever since I have no god damn clue what people think about it. Anyways. HAve a nice day and good luck with any future champion ideas.

ACB Nimbus8/25/2015, 3:05:09 PM1 votes

Yuuum teh epic thank for the criticism, really helpfull. I knew someone would catch the similarity with brand, so no big suprise. now about q, at first i wanted it to be more epic, or hard to land, something with a strange shape, like dianas q, but maybe in a form of 3 or Z or V. W was intended as a follow up combo with his ult. Like someone like j4 looks up their team, and vulthanes w and r do the work. E is completely orientied around others, as in team favor, that's why he would work as a supp. R is a huge gamble, and it would seperate the bad players from the good ones. The permastun is kinda op, i mean a lot, so it needs a change, i'll think about it later. Anyway i didn't input any damages, so any skills usefulness can change from that alone. yeah, so that's that. I'll have a look at your ideas, and tell you what i think, when i have the time. Cheers m8