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Item Idea: Dead Ringer

King Maruilla··0 votes·534 views

Dead Ringer: item 3086 + item 3751 + item 1082 Cost: 3950 (500)

Ability Power: 15 Attack Speed: 15 Critical Attack Chance: 20% Health: 300

Unique Passive: Second Chance Upon taking Lethal Damage, revive with 15% of max Health and Mana, and become unseen for 3 seconds. After 3 seconds, become seen. (150 Second Cooldown) and is reduced by 1 second per minion or champion kill from Fires of Life Unique Passive: Fires of Life Deals 15 (Plus 1 per "Glory") Magic Damage per second within a small radius. Deals 50% extra damage to Minions and Monsters. Each Minion or Champion killed by the passive will reduce the Second Chance cooldown by 1 second. Becomes disabled during the 3 seconds used in Second Chance Unique Passive: Do or Die Gain 2 stacks of Glory per Champion Kill, and gain 1 stack of Glory per assist. Max stack is 15 Glory. Lose 4 stacks of Glory upon death

"Momentum is a beautiful thing. Life and Death should flow and sway, and let nothing stop you." - Illaoi

Quotes: Ahri "Time to fan the flames." Braum "Now I know what Auralion Sol feels like!" "Perhaps I'll help Sol with this." Corki "Didn't the Guardian Angel have a similar effect? Oh well!" JarvanIV "They had feared me before...now they will fear me even more." Jhin "I'm not one for Bronze, but it's showing it's worth." Jinx "Are you sure this is safe?" Kindred "Why fan the Flames of Life?" "Let's fan the flames of Death!" Rammus "OP" Singed "I wonder how bad my victims will fall because of this..." Sion "Hmm...It appears that I'm on fire..." Sivir "You may run now." Sona "Such an frighting power within my hands...let's abuse this." Veigar "If even Death can't escape my Grasp, what worth does this have?!" Viktor "Ah yes, I was wondering how to modify the Zeal..." Xerath "I am Immortal once again!"

11 Comments

Twiggles1 votes

This would become the core rush item on Fiora

King Maruilla1 votes

It's the item meant for non-tanks like Ahri or Viktor. Because of both abilities, the Dead Ringer can keep you alive in very crazy rushes.

Twiggles1 votes

I was actually just making a joke about Fiora's French accent...

You know... Because the Spy is French? I actually like this idea about as much as I like the Dead Ringer in TF2. (Which would be not very much at all, honestly.)

King Maruilla1 votes

Well, I would had used the "Eternal Reward" or "Big Earner" instead.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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It's the item meant for non-tanks like Ahri or Viktor. Because of both abilities, the Dead Ringer can keep you alive in very crazy rushes.

The stats support AD-based tanks who can maximize the stats and the damaging passive though. Fiora, Tank Yi, Xin Zhao, Shyvana, Jarvan IV...those are the sort it will see use on.

That said, the item isn't really feasible due to the huge cost, and the fact that it builds out of three already Legendary items. Riot has been pretty adamant about not adding in new item tiers, and also about keeping costs below 4000 gold.

King Maruilla1 votes

It's the counter for the item 3078 item. Although it should be lower in price.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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It's the counter for the item 3078 item. Although it should be lower in price.

Trinity Force builds out of three 1000-1350 tier 2 items though. This builds out of three 2000+ gold tier 3 items. That's not really a comparable situation.

It also doesn't address the point that the characters who will most use this items stats probably don't care much about the invisiblility aspect, as they're going to be durable front-line bruisers for the most part.

King Maruilla1 votes

Well, what 3 tier 2 items should I use for the same effect?

And while it would fit for the AD-Tanks, it's meant for either Junglers or Marksmen.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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Well, what 3 tier 2 items should I use for the same effect?

Well the effect is also way to powerful on every stat currently. You also can't do it in three items without cutting a defensive stat somewhere...which you need to, as League doesn't allow health / armor / MR on the same item by principle.

You'd base the Sunfire effect and health off Bami's Cinder and the AS/Crit off Zeal, and then choose some third item.

Also, Google "League Gold Base Efficiency" to find the baseline gold values for items. You want to make sure the final item is roughly balanced along those lines, with less efficiency for each string passive (so Is look up Sunfire and Guardian Angel specifically, and make sure your stat-to-gold ratio is lower than they have.

To give you an idea, your item is worth 6563 gold on stats alone, putting it at 164.1% efficiency.

For contrast, Sunfire Cape is only 86.4% efficient due to the strength of the passive (which is weaker than the passive you've given this item -- and nets a passive value of 367), and Guardian Angel's new PBE form (at 2700 gold) is only 84.4% efficient (with a passive value of 420 gold).

So if your item retains IDENTICAL passives (instead of empowering both), it would be almost double the allowed stat efficiency for its cost. As it it's WAY too powerful.

And while it would fit for the AD-Tanks, it's meant for either Junglers or Marksmen.

Ah. I was confused by your post suggesting Viktor and Ahri as target champions.

The Last Ballad1 votes

This would only be unavailable everywhere, because the Lightbringer is only available in ARAM, but the Guardian Angle is not available on ARAM's. So how would it be useful?

King Maruilla1 votes

Thank you for that...what was I thinking!?

What would serve as the Lightbringer's counterpart?

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