Thoughts on Kindred

I played kindred when she first came out and was happy with where she sat. Mind you i haven't played that many games with kindred and at the time was a pretty bad player. But from getting my skills up and playing the game a lot more i noticed the nerfs to this champion. I loved the way her autos felt and the heal she once had. I miss the old kindred and still think she can be viable but the only time i see her play is when she feeds so hard my next game is ruined as well. Now this might just be gold talking on kindred but I've never seen kindred do well. i think she should be changed if not completely re worked. Her idea is awesome with the Lamb and the wolf but i find that they could have been more "creative" with the idea.

I want this kindred to use wolf in more than just two abilities and lamb to have more than one for herself. Yeah they all go together but her ultimate to me just feels out of place. I want kindred to be a marksman still whether it be crit or lethiality or whatever you build on kindred . Then i want wolf to have his own abilities or at least have some point where wolf can pounce in and dominate people. I bash on kindred's ultimate only because it doesn't really belong in a marksman hands. Plus the heal and effect goes for everybody and yeah it would suck if it was just for her teammates but really doesn't help her too frequently because of the heal. It evens the odds not settles in her favor for using an ult that the enemy team also has to put it in their favor. A lot of this is just kinda copying other champions but with all the champions and all the different ideas flowing around with abilities and champions and what is copying and what is innovative im gonna stick with what I WOULD LIKE TO SEE kindred be able to do in both forms or with bot forms present. You don't have to agree with me but i would still like to see what you guys feel about my ideas and see what we would like.

There are champions in this game that change form. Now a lamb changing into a wolf is you know dumb, but seeing that a wolf follows a lamb anyways is what i base this idea off of. I think they should make the champion into more into a marksman with lamb and then a bruiser with wolf. I actually never really liked kindred's ult to begin with but i wouldn't want her to be like every other champ that changes. I believe that if this idea would be presented their is a lot of ways you could present it.

He has a fury bar that changed him from a cute ball of rage inducing autos to rage inducing cc along with some more autos. If they were to introduce that i feel it would take a lot away from kindred and wouldn't really support the idea. It would be interesting but it would just rip off and honestly not be very fun.

Her ultimate changes her from a woman with cc and damage based off higher health to a spider that wants to be an assassin. I wouldn't want another champion to have an ultimate to change into a wolf or lamb. I want her to be diverse not just another spider lady.

The newest champ with an option to go from boring edge lord to an awesome edge lord of terrifying burst and get away cleaner than my parents or change into a metal as hell cc monster that heals off beating the crap out of you and laughing as he does it. Granted you have to collect his souls and stuff from ranged or melee to do so or just wait as kayn to choose the one you want, but again this just doesn't satisfy the true nature of the huntress and her hunter companion. It shows diversity but it changes a marksman into a bruiser with no way of going back to lamb.

Nidalee is basically what i'm talking about with the ult change into a mage into a bruiser beside a marksman into a bruiser. But nidalee doesn't really become a bruiser she just turns into a melee assassin. I want wolf to be a bruiser with cc and possibly a different ult than lamb has. Plus nidalee is just nidalee. Nidalee is linear while i want kindred to be more curvy and more divey in her wolf form.

Annie summons tibbers and you control him for some amount of time. In some games people micro more than one character on the screen like in Dota and even in league with annie's tibbers and shaco's clone. Thinking of if wolf could be an ultimate you cast down and fears enemies in an area would be cool but honestly just ripping too much from Warwick. I would want wolf to be like tibbers but hes always with you and you have to micro him all throughout the game. This idea has the most you can do with it which is why i kinda like it even if it sounds difficult but it would add diversity to a character that i think needs a lot of love. I like the idea but i feel it would use to much micro in autoing with Lamb and then trying to manage wolf.

When her rage bar hits one hundred or she hits six she turns into a cute little woman that smacks you into a dragon that beats all of you and gets every dragon no matter the time or place. Its a nice aspect of being able to turn into the dragon when you want and saving that ult when its just right.

If lambs ult was some sort of call to wolf to change forms when she had enough fury to sate the beast and use him to wreak havoc upon your foes sounds like a good ultimate. Better than her ultimate now. He would have his abilities be the same as lambs but quite different. Basically like the old . Kindred changes drastically and gains movement speed towards enemies for the duration and slowed down when he tried to run away like his new q Dance of Claws cleaves everything in front of him and cause a bleed on everything hit and gains movement speed off of champions hit. His w Wolf's Frenzy gives him more attack speed and slow enemies he hits like Lambs w when she is using it normally. It would still use the circle mechanic though. If you fight the wolf in his cage then you will get him attacking faster and crippling you in return kinda like . His new E Mounting Dread would mark the last enemy you hit and after four autos ,not including his q, he would chomp you like and do the damage just like when lamb uses her e. But in wolf form if its the last auto he pounces to the enemy. The wolf's R Wolf's Respite he would channel for one second and after the channel he would roar in a cone and fear everything in the cone. This is my favorite idea which is why i went all out but with all the other champions like nidalee its the same idea but i would like a fury bar on the wolf since he has powerful abilities that should be on a longer cool down than just an ultimate. You wouldn't get her ult when you hit six and you wouldn't get her ult off of hitting minions. You get points toward ulting when you kill minion and champions. Minions count as one towards the one hundred or even 150 thinking of the wolf's abilities. Champions count as five and large monster count as three. If you killed the required amount before you hit six then you would technically start off with your ultimate.

I put so much info into the idea regarding the like ultimate because it sounds a lot smarter to me and honestly a fun and cool idea to make the champion cleaner and easier to balance.

Then there is the idea i have that you dont make them a form changing champion. You just change the abilities to be unique and in the way of sating wolf's blood lust and Lamb's demeanor towards finding the ones that come peacefully.

Added things will be in bold. Damage numbers will be in italic.

P: Mark of The Kindred- You hunt people and Kindred chooses who to hunt while wolf picks camps around the enemy sides jungle he wants to sate his everlasting hunger. If you get a mark your attack speed for your q goes up by 5% for each mark and your w current damage goes up by 1% for each mark. Your E's missing health damage by 1% for each mark. The normal scaling for this is .5% for each mark but it turns down her damage drastically in the early game and even further in the late game with assassins just going to kill her and you have to use your ult and they kill you anyways afterwards because you dont have enough damage or sustain (unless you build it) to keep up with their damage. Wolf will mark rift scuttler for the first mark, then for 1-3 wolf will mark raptors and gromp and the other scuttler if he is still alive. 4-7 will be put on the krugs red buff and blue buff and the wolf camp. After 7 you have to kill either rift herald, baron or dragons to get marks. You can use players to get marks but it isnt that effective if your losing because you can't get camps or kills and in turn will only hit a couple stacks if thats the case.** I think it should be like rengars new passive where if he kills all five players he gets the necklace stacked. But i think that kindred has to kill them. No assists. You have to kill all five players and after you do you get the 75 bonus attack range. It would still show diversity and make kindred easier to play and not as predictable who she wants to kill with some mark telling you "Kindred wants to kill you"**

Q: Dance of Arrows- You dash forward shooting three arrows. 55/75/95/115/135(+ 65% bonus AD) If the enemy is running then the arrow turns into wolfs head and does damage based off missing health and a base amount. This would add damage to people running from death and keep the lamb to killing people that fight her straight on.

W: Wolf's Frenzy- You mark a territory for wolf to target enemies and cripple minions he hits as long as dealing current health. 25/30/35/40/45(+20% bonus AD)(+ 1.5%(+ 1% per Mark) of target's current health) He scales with 50% of Kindred's attack speed. He does more damage_ (50%) _to monsters as well. The added effect here would be that in the cage when you q's wolf would chomp the champion you last auto'd doing missing health. In turn kindred would lose her q's cool down reduction in her territory but i think the base cool down goes from 8/7.5/7/6.5/6 seconds.

E: Mounting Dread- You apply a mark to a monster or champion slowing the by 50% for one second. If she autos twice then her third attack has wolf jump at the enemy and do escalating damage along with 8% (1%) of the enemies missing health. There isnt much i want to change about this ability because it works and it does what it needs to do for kindred and uses wolf. 60/80/100/120/140(+80% bonus AD)(+ 8% (+ 0.5% per Mark) of target's missing health)

R: Lamb's Respite- Lamb marks selected champion. The selection range is about the size from mid left brush to right mid brush. Effect lasts 15 seconds. once selected cannot be qss'd or cleansed. The Kindred marks a champion for death if they run from kindred Wolf will cripple enemy by 45% movement speed for 3 seconds and do 10% current health. Kindred's abilities have effects on marked target. Her q will shoot three arrows and two of them will go for the selected enemy. Her w will always go for selected target and cripple the champion by 10%. Her e will proc after three hits and will do 8 percent of your maximum health and this will keep the .5% ratio per mark to keep her from snowballing incredibly hard. Her regular ultimate has a cool down of 160/130/100. seeing this ability shows single target execution and keeping to the lore of Kindred chasing those down who will not come and killing those swiftly who fight or surrender i see no problem with her ult still having this cool down stay the same.

Again this is just what i think. I included the base numbers of her abilities and i dont think she needs a number change. She just needs to be changed to have a better ultimate matching her lore and more abilities that show diversity and show lore. She also just needs a little love to make her viable again. If you dont like this then please let me know why. If you have a problem with something i would have no problem explaining to you why i feel this way. I know some of you are gonna not like the ultimate for your own reasons whether it be the wolf idea or the changes i think she deserves and thats quite alright. I just want to get ideas rolling around and see if we can come up with and see if these ideas sounds fun and diverse. I do copy some of the champions but most champions have something taken and given from each other given a few snowflakes. I thought long and hard and would like to see what you guys think.