Do you see that this is fine????? (a kid complaining about darius)

TheFortex·9/22/2018, 10:48:48 PM·1 votes·1,343 views

Here you have a Darius that has the ability to extend the range of his auto attacks... and a Q that hits toes and says I hit him https://youtu.be/ymCt9Wbjk5o here you have the same effect of an extending aa range but with his W https://youtu.be/585ifkTZdxg later that night:- I do Q auto (which is obviously not enough even when its true dmg) and he almost took no dmg... when his aa dealt as much dmg as what I did with all that garbage I did then i hide in the bush and attempt a (aa meditate reset) but I slightly failed anyways it still didn't deal dmg when he only had to hit me with an aa then W and that's it... I'm dead https://youtu.be/e_7hrxCHdf0 then he reached the point at which his Q deals this dmg... he didn't have anything but a kindlegem and you can see in the stats board... https://youtu.be/s7YrC8KD0jg

before sending a comment... 1- don't tell me master yi doesn't play top... cuz I don't care and I won't reply 2- don't tell me it was my fault and he is just good... explain what he did and what I did so I can learn 3- this is not a hate post on Darius... I'm just asking to take his early potential down a bit

5 Comments

SlandersPete9/22/2018, 11:18:56 PM1 votes

Smurf Darius.

Alzon9/22/2018, 11:24:55 PM1 votes

Alright. Yi should trash Darius... so long as Yi has two items and Darius doesn’t have 5 stacks. The tricky part is surviving long enough to get two items.

In the first video, you go greedy for minion EXP and walked in an obvious curve into the bush, while Darius walked straight to it once he saw what you were doing. If you went straight to his tower you would have been fine. What’s more, you were inside the range of the first Q and didn’t need Alpha Strike to dodge it. TBH, that Darius really goofed by starting Q. You could have cheesed him super hard with Conqueror by dodging the first Q that would have landed with Alpha Strike and then autoing him inside his Q range, but you’d probably need Ignite for this.

The second video, I can’t see what you’re talking about. Darius has 175 auto range, standard for a juggernaut. Yi has 125.

The third video, you should have baited his Q before Alpha Striking, and saved Meditate for his W - one auto after you used it. I can see why you were running in the first place - you were trying to wait for his stacks to fall off.

The fourth video you were trying to fight him when he was 7 with ult, you were 5, and your minions were under your tower behind you. Alpha Strike to the minions might have saved you, but I’m assuming it was down because you tried to fight level 7 Darius as level 5 Yi. Don’t do that. Even if he misses Q. Get level 6 first. Regardless of whether that last Q hit you or not, you were still dead.

So you can cheese with Ignite level 1 (2 especially if you hit it first) by baiting his Q. However, most Darius players start W, which will wreck you if you try to cheese, so this isn’t typically viable. Failing that, you play like a sissy until you hit 6, then look for him to screw up. But it would have to be a big screwup, like missing both E and Q under tower.

Once you get Bork and some HP, however, you can get a little more aggressive, so long as you stack your Conqueror off of minions. Darius will only try to E if you’re meditating or running away. His Q should never hit you if you ult, use Alpha Strike to dodge the first Q, and then sit on top of him, whittling him down with autos. At that point, his autos + W + ult won’t be enough. He will be about 1/3 HP by the time he gets his fifth stack, and you’ll be 3/4 HP. At that point, his ult + Ignite + bleed will take you down to about 1/3... but you can kill him well before that, especially if you also have Ignite. Kill him then Meditate through the bleed. Alternatively, Meditate immediately after his very first auto against you, as that’s when he will try to use W to get an auto reset. You’ll block a good bit of that damage and reset your own auto timer.

Later, though, this matchup turns into a piece of cake. Finish a single HP item, get Rageblade, and then eat him every time you catch him alone.

DuskDaUmbreon9/23/2018, 12:13:48 AM1 votes

Video 1, you fought him way too early on, as level 3 would have been much more in your favor, without him really having a way to force you to fight before then. His Q blade also covered around a third of your hitbox.

For video 3, you were going into him while really low, into a champion with DoTs. You had a 100% chance of dying if you didn't kill him before he could react, the same as if you were against a Malzahar, Teemo, or Singed. Very poor decision, there. It'd have been better to just channel W instead of going for another hit. AA reset wasn't going to kill him, even with a passive proc.

Video 4, that's honestly pretty fair. I'd expect a Nasus Q to do roughly as much damage then with just a item 3211. His Q is honestly the most fine and fair part of his kit, even in numbers. The ult didn't even do that much, although that was likely due to your W and him only having 4 passive stacks.

Darius has problems, but this was mostly just due to mess-ups on your end.

Verxint9/24/2018, 2:25:06 PM1 votes
  1. Never even think about manfighting Darius at level 1 unless your name is Olaf. Someone like Yi who is very weak early should respect him
  2. All autoattack reset spells increase AA range for QoL. Darius is no different (and he has 175 AA range like most juggs)
  3. Darius has strong base damages and base defense. Yi doesn't have either of those. Yi scales much better with items.
  4. He's two levels above you, and once again you're a squishy champ with a weak early game and low bases while he's a naturally beefy champ with absurd bases and a strong early game.

You have to play around how the champions work. Don't expect to pick a lategame hypercarry and fight a bully in lane.