Champion without autoattacks

Latarnia40··4 votes·3,482 views

If they want to release champions with cool gamebreaking mechanics why don't they just create a champion without autoattacks? He would only farm with abilities, would have to rush mana but would be godlike lategame. I would play that.

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Dr Dog6 votes

thats pretty much karthus to a tee tbh

saltran2 votes

Sounds like a balance nightmare so give it 2/3 years and it will happen.

SëL1 votes

Singed

Alzon3 votes

Fiddlesticks

Heckin Support1 votes

Or give it to a purely no damage support. A character who has no damage whatsoever in their kit would also be very interesting to implement in the game.

Gilgayu1 votes

Historically speaking it is best to compensate greater cc for lack of damage. I think that might be one of the reasons why a champion without auto attack isn't created yet (officially anyway ;)

I mean Nasus's and Zilean's slow doesn't deal damage, and they slow so freaking much despite being a point and click...

I don't know, I feel like by removing damage, another unhealthy mechanic might be intruduced.

ChaosReyn1 votes

There's been a couple of concepts that tried making their "autoattack" a free heal on allies or one that did no actual damage, but instead started stacking a slow effect on someone that could get up to like 75% going 5% at a time. All these ideas were generally frowned on for being simply infuriating to play against.

Stacona is the one I remember that made a healing autoattack. What I was trying to explain to him, though I probably came off as crude, is that healing someone "on hit" for free can get really infuriating if someone builds, say, nashor's tooth. Nashor's, would mean spam-healing a single target through a pretty crazy amount of damage for free.

That's not even including the rest of that champion's kit, which included another huge heal (that fortunately did have a mana cost) and a substantial shield effect. A champion like that could literally make anyone an immortal being.

The other thing about champs with no true autos is that they're actually pretty unfun. All the ideas I've seen essentially are supports who have literally no reason to step anywhere near an enemy champion, and instead just sit back and spam heal their allies. I call it "old Soraka syndrome" since before she was reworked, she literally didn't have to aim a single thing: her Q just hit anything near her, her W and E were point and click hp and mp returns to her allies, and her ult was...well, that didn't change. Needless to say, old Raka really didn't have to do much of anything in game besides spam her laner and let them do all the work.

The exception was the one that slowed on his autos without dealing damage - that one was a very in-your-face concept that I would definitely have loved to see had their abilities not have been totally god-modded...but that one is buried somewhere in the archives, and I'm not digging through that. xD

DarkTree11 votes

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Or give it to a purely no damage support. A character who has no damage whatsoever in their kit would also be very interesting to implement in the game.

this concept screams "pick/ban in pro play" imo as it would have to be justified by another mechanic that's straight up busted like 2 second long displacements or something

Mr Voidling1 votes

Yeeaahh there's already effectively 2 or more champions like this. Listed by other people down below. If you give them a low costing damaging ability with quick cast time then it doesn't matter if they can attack. Karthus uses Q unless he runs out of mana, which is essentially this concept just without an option after you run out of mana.

And they don't really want game-breaking mechanics. Game-changing is the goal. Which honestly there are a ton of potential awesome champion concepts in the boards... Ones I'd enjoy far more than recent champs.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Annie Karthus

Latarnia401 votes

Im really meaning that they don't have an autoattack Or just 0 ad

SH Azykan1 votes

Karthus Cassiopeia ?

LankPants1 votes

I remember Riot saying somewhere that when he was first in development Ivern not only had no auto attack, but no damage at all. Apparently it felt horrible to chase someone with no way to kill them whatsoever however, so Riot dialled back on this a bit to leave Ivern with a low but still existent amount of damage.

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