Chromas must be earned through champion mastery

Ultra Animal·Apr 17, 2015·244 votes·7,300 views

Agree or disagree.

edit: So i'm glad this got some feedback:D I would like to see chromas earned through exp and special achievements in game(ex: multikills, cs per minute, touching dyrus on an emotional level). It would create a personal challenge for your favorite champions so that you can show off your love of them instead of just paying. It would be an awesome addition but I won't be mad if they don't, at the end of tthe day business is business.

107 Comments

Colgate GatorApr 17, 201538 votes

It'd be an interesting mechanic, now that you suggest it.

THe colors would actually show something other than that we have a credit card and it'd make the whole leveling up thing meaningful, I approve.

Angry MonsterApr 17, 20159 votes

Minus the fact that chromas are not all supposed to be base skins. Nothing worse than saying here is your reward, o you did not spend money on this X skin but you spent on this other skin. So you get nothing

T RexHasLongLegsApr 18, 20153 votes

I think the only ones that are likely to happen this way are base skins. When you get the end of season skin for being gold+ you get the champion if you don't own it. If you unlock content that requires other content you get that content free is the existing precedent so it doesn't make sense to have skin chromas.

I want to throw in I think base chromas for mastery should be really hard to get, but should only be free. You shouldn't be able to get them through rp, and they should be an awesome show off for being dedicated to maining a couple specific champs. If it is easy to get on a bunch of champs then it doesn't seem meaningful or representative of actual mastery or at least dedication.

CubedJusticeApr 18, 20151 votes

Perhaps just one color set aside for masteries, and the others for sale?

T RexHasLongLegsApr 18, 20151 votes

Do you mean one color for the base skin set to earn through the upcoming champion mastery thing, or one color for each skin? I think again, there's no way that riot will set up a system that unlocks their pay for only content through free means. Now you could say "unlock one color for each skin, but change riot policy that if you have content which requires other content then you can use it" (in this case the policy would mean you could use the chroma skin but not the original color skin) but then you have to deal with the issue of how to order it, incentivizing only part of the player base who owns the skin, and worst of all if it is ordered which ones you unlock the moment where you're a player who only owns your favorite skin and the chroma unlock for that requires you to unlock every chroma you can't use since you don't own the skin before you get the one you want.

If you mean just the base then sure I guess, but why not all three, and do you get to pick your one reward?

Also amazing idea I did get from your post is how cool would it be if you got a chroma that was a single recolor (or slightly added detail but not full skin remake level) but a specific "mastery" theme that each champ got in addition to their three chroma pack but the mastery chroma can't be bought and is only earned.

CubedJusticeApr 18, 20152 votes

I mean one free base color with full mastery level. Because money and fan service.

FancyKiwiApr 17, 201510 votes

I think at rank 5 champion mastery you get chromas for the default skin as a way to say "I play his dude a lot" I know they have the banner but who cares about that. Chromas for skins should cost but how much is up for debate.

TrumpetApr 18, 20159 votes

Chromas for skins costing would be really annoying as you already payed once for the skin. They should be IP obtainable for skins (like 6,300 per chroma) because it really gives off the wrong impression that they would willingly double charge like that.

T RexHasLongLegsApr 18, 20151 votes

I dunno, I think chromas for skins are where it makes the most sense to charge, I have bought a couple skins over the last 3 years. I have never once thought, "oh I have a skin for this one let me get one for another champ" if I buy skins for a champ they are usually a champ that I like a whole bunch. I buy multiple skins for the same champ, why not buy the color variations, the did take the time to code them and they are as much variation as a lot of the skins are so why not charge?

JusticePauldronsApr 18, 20154 votes

Because you can literally do this yourself or just download a custom skin of higher quality. Sure you would be the only one to see it but it is literally is just a pallete swap. I don't buy skins for other people, I but them because I think they look cool. Double charging someone for a skin is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.

qetzelApr 17, 20157 votes

I disagree. I am fine with Riot wanting money for cosmetics given that the game is free.

Tesla EffectApr 18, 20152 votes

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I disagree. I am fine with Riot wanting money for cosmetics given that the game is free.

Smite is free and has a lot less fans that pay for cosmetic stuff, but they still have free skin system. While Riot at this point is the biggest MOBA company and has the ability to do this stuff for free and also make the Champion Masteries actually worth filling up.

Tough GuyApr 18, 20153 votes

Just because one MOBA company is doing it does not mean riot has to do it.

Tesla EffectApr 18, 20152 votes

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Just because one MOBA company is doing it does not mean riot has to do it.

Well if they want to be successful, they will learn from other companies instead of going the greedy rout of EA.

JoltforceApr 18, 20153 votes

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Well if they want to be successful, they will learn from other companies instead of going the greedy rout of EA.

If they want to be successful? They were already successful in creating the most played MOBA in the world...

OmnipheriousApr 18, 20154 votes

Disagree.

Base/default skins with chromas unlock through mastery? Yea, very agreeable. Special chroma for certain ranks, events, etc? Yes, also agreeable.

Not paying for chromas ever? No, that's unrealistic cause Riot needs to make some money.

Paying for skin chromas is fine, but there should be the option to do something like: "Unlock this skin and all future Chromas for this skin, 975 RP + 500? RP"

I think that's reasonable. Skins and champions are sold in bundles so why not make champion and chroma bundles too?

Additionally, I would rather go to the store and pay $100-200 just once to have all current + future Chromas for every skin I own and will own in the future unlocked instead of having to buy all these little sets.

Honestly, I will not buy any chromas if they ship as is. It is not because I think the current price is unreasonable or that this it a good initiative (let's face it, this is long overdue). I won't buy the chromas simply because I personally do not feel they are worth it.

Do they look nice? Sure, not all of them but overall they look nice.

I've already chosen to support Riot and League of Legends by buying many skins and introducing people to the game. Even if the price of a chroma or set of chromas translates to about $1, that ain't worth it for me. If the chroma changed the colour of the champion and some of the VFX, then yea I would totally buy some.

If doesn't even have to be fancy VFX changes, just re-colours like on the character model. I've seen Blitz hundreds to thousands of times. If you want me to buy a chroma for his derpy ass, then that Red Blitz better have red lightning for Static Field and red sparks on Power Fist.

To me, that doesn't seem like an unreasonable request or expectation because Riot isn't the same company it was when Green and Pink Taric were considered perfectly legitimate full-priced skins.

gagarizedApr 18, 20154 votes

I agree honestly, either that or have them available for IP. I really don't understand the logic behind having someone pay 5 dollars for 3 recolors, it seems strange.

ParlorTrickApr 18, 20154 votes

I don't know, Riot already gives a ton away for free, and their business model and growth rely on these completely cosmetic purchases, they'd be undercutting their profit by an undetermined amount, and if people saw them as complete alternatives to getting skins (which they very well may) then they would end up seeing their profit drop even further. The only reason they're able to develop so many skins, champions and the like, the only reason they're able to constantly update the game is because they have a profit margin that allows them to employ enough people to do that. So giving them away for free would be a bad choice on their part.

So I'm happy just receiving my badge for champion mastery when it comes out.

PhoenixSlayer13Apr 18, 20153 votes

I'd go with either that or buying through IP. If it's by IP, I'd accept buying one chroma at a time; most people have said they'd only want one chroma from the packs presented anyway.

Tesla EffectApr 18, 20152 votes

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I'd go with either that or buying through IP. If it's by IP, I'd accept buying one chroma at a time; most people have said they'd only want one chroma from the packs presented anyway.

If its trough IP, it should not cost as much as a newer champion of 6300 IP, thats way to much for just one chroma skin.

PhoenixSlayer13Apr 18, 20153 votes

I'd agree. I'd accept up to 4800 honestly, but 3150 would probably be best. Then again, Riot hasn't worked out what buying skins from IP would be like, even if they're just recolors. I'll wait and see if they consider an IP point first.

T RexHasLongLegsApr 18, 20153 votes

I honestly think that would be low. I mean I might not do it due to IP cost, but that's fine, there are champs I don't buy also because I would rather have more rune pages. Skins have never been available for ip that I know of and I don't think they will be, but if they were I think 6300 would be fair, maybe even do the new release week ip cost (7800 or is it something else?) New release champ ip cost is higher because getting it immediately through ip instead of rp is more valuable than getting it the next week. Getting something that isn't available usually through ip should definitely be a high ip cost.

Honestly grinding IP is easier to do than a lot of achievements for games that offer minor cosmetics for harder achievements.

The TrentApr 18, 20153 votes

Seriously I'm sick of all these threads saying this. Riot already announced that they are going to do this later on before any of these threads started. Can you at least do research before posting something like this?

AntonokApr 18, 20153 votes

The RP price tag says otherwise

The TrentApr 18, 20152 votes

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The RP price tag says otherwise

"Later on"

LazyBubApr 18, 20155 votes

and Riot actually stayed true to their promises WHEN?

#LifeTimeRpRewards #1350RPSkinsArentTheNorm

GreenLoreApr 18, 20154 votes

They'd probably add new chromas that you earn through masterys instead of letting us get the current chromas for free. Would kinda suck if you buy a chroma pack not knowing that you can get the chroma for free by playing the champion.

MaliginantApr 18, 20153 votes

I would agree only because the recolors do not appear to be worth spending money on. As someone else posted a while back, it's really easy to recolor a skin and if you know how to do it it only takes a few minutes to fully recolor a skin.

LeeDarkApr 18, 20153 votes

That's really all you had to say, and you couldn't be bothered to even make it a poll?

PandahHeartApr 18, 20153 votes

I agree. As a person who spends lots of money on RP, I personally will probably not buy the chromas since I would rather buy a $10 skin than a $5 chroma pack. I would like to see the chromas earned and when I see the loading screen, I can say "wow that guy earned blue Lucian from mastery, he must be good with him," not "Wow that guy _bought _blue Lucian." If they offered chromas from champion mastery, I would seriously spend my time learning to master all of the champions. And this is a good incentive so that people would be willing to learn ALL of the champions and be familiar with them. People would have a better knowledge of when to engage on them or understand what their kit is. This especially helps newer players in learning all of the champions or those people that have some champions they got but do not know how to play yet.

I understand that League is a free game and I am a person who spends money on RP to support them and to buy their amazing skins so I'm not trying to get _free _stuff here because I'm greedy.

TenSlashTenApr 18, 20153 votes

I think champion mastery or buying them is perfectly fine. But these retards, aka people who are too SLOW to understand that its a company not a charity, who think they should be free or ANYTHING IN THIS GAME should be free need to really fuck off right now lol

rtbf220239679Apr 20, 20151 votes

actually paying for rp in the game is stupid yourself as you will probably give up the game after a bit of time and if u do u just wasted a lot of money in the game so I say it'd be really good.(this is my opinion don't scream at me saying FUCK THSI SHIT YOU NOOB or i'll report u)

TenSlashTenApr 20, 20151 votes

lol I've been playing this game since closed beta I have black alistar and pax jax. I'm pretty sure I'm not "giving up this game" lol. Spent easily 1,000+ This isn't even my first account with my black alistar on it. my first account was transfered to LAN to play with an actual low amount of ping instead of this 70-200 every game bullshit riot has on NA lol Seriously the packet loss on this season is disgusting. It's all because they haven't updated them at all.

Ultra AnimalMay 3, 20151 votes

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lol I've been playing this game since closed beta I have black alistar and pax jax. I'm pretty sure I'm not "giving up this game" lol. Spent easily 1,000+ This isn't even my first account with my black alistar on it. my first account was transfered to LAN to play with an actual low amount of ping instead of this 70-200 every game bullshit riot has on NA lol Seriously the packet loss on this season is disgusting. It's all because they haven't updated them at all.

https://wastedonlol.com/na-TenSlashTen/

Congratulations

TenSlashTenMay 4, 20151 votes

Yo thanks dude lol Look up "broken" (EUW) "Jungle" (KR) "TenSlashTen" (LAN)

Are all my current accounts being used on a semi regular basis. Jungle is my main that was transfered from NA back when KR server first came online. Was challenger in s4 with Jungle before I decayed to like plat 4 or something.. had topo take like a 7 month break because was working 7 10's at the bar I work at now. Now i work 5 10's so got time.

assholes finally hired someone else to fill in lol.

Ultra AnimalMay 5, 20151 votes

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Yo thanks dude lol Look up "broken" (EUW) "Jungle" (KR) "TenSlashTen" (LAN)

Are all my current accounts being used on a semi regular basis. Jungle is my main that was transfered from NA back when KR server first came online. Was challenger in s4 with Jungle before I decayed to like plat 4 or something.. had topo take like a 7 month break because was working 7 10's at the bar I work at now. Now i work 5 10's so got time.

assholes finally hired someone else to fill in lol.

That is crazy, always good to have people like you who know what they're talking about to put some sense into boards.

SvddenlyApr 18, 20152 votes

YES. THIS IS WHAT I WANTED IT TO BE LIKE SINCE CHROMAS HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED. RITO PLZ.

BlawynnApr 18, 20152 votes

Agree.

FiskApr 18, 20152 votes

Where is the poll!!

Newb the LegendApr 18, 20152 votes

I would have it so you could choose ONE chroma for the base skin when you "master" a champion, and have it at a discounted price for the rest of the set.

Squeaky DreemurrApr 18, 20152 votes

Agreee

BubbaDukeApr 18, 20152 votes

I think that there should be a chroma for reaching a certain champion mastery level.

I also think other Chroma's should be obtainable with IP and RP, like champions.

toZenToArgueApr 18, 20152 votes

Agreed summoner 13

DeynaTaggerungApr 18, 20152 votes

The issue with this is that it would mean Riot needs to make chromas for every champ. That could take a while, would be a bunch of work and then in the end it'd go away free. I like the idea if there were chromas in place for every champ already.

rtbf211279518Apr 19, 20152 votes

Agree, because looking cool while also saying you're good at something is the best.

M0RDEKA1SERApr 18, 20151 votes

While I love the idea of unlocking a chroma skin because I've "mastered" a champion, one thing that has to be taken into consideration is that there's a team working on these skins. They're putting hours if not days into making these things work as best as they can. Shoot, come to think of it, how long have they already been working on it? Weeks that we know of, maybe they've been working on this for months and are only recently telling us about it.

Some of these team members probably have wives and kids to feed. If anything, I would have these chromas make enough money to help those guys feed themselves and their families (if any). But, after that, maybe champion mastery could be used to unlock chromas or even give a discount on them based on mastery rank.

Call it "greed" all you want, but I'd like to think I'm helping someone feed and clothe their kids, rather than be the reason they struggle to.

Tesla EffectApr 18, 20151 votes

Dont us that as an excuse. The make enough money as it is. They arent near the struggling artists trope.

M0RDEKA1SERApr 18, 20152 votes

Don't use that as an excuse. They make enough money as it is. They aren't near the struggling artists trope.

There, fixed that for you. Honestly, if you're going to jump on someone for disagreeing with you, at least put some actual thought into it.

LazyBubApr 18, 20152 votes

you realize that a ton of people have proved that each chroma skins take about 10-15min to make even for amateur photoshop users right?

Actually do some research before you embarrass yourself.

M0RDEKA1SERApr 18, 20151 votes

Go ahead and measure out that ton for me. Not embarrassed. Don't understand why I would have any reason to be embarrassed.