Veigar Ult and Passive ideas
Passive Ideas:
- "The bigger they are..." Veigar does increased damage to champion with higher health/the highest health total on the team & "...The harder they fall" When Veigar kills a champion/kills the champion with the highest health total, deal damage based on Veigars AP and that characters max HP to surrounding enemies .
Pros: Fits well with theme (This is a must) Punishes high health tanks Countered by MR Doesn't change weak early game Unique, flips the idea of "fearless/invincible tanks" and turns it to "Veigars new bomb"
Cons: %Health damage is kinda stale since it is so common now Causes Veigar to spike earlier Might be weird to balance Veigar becomes extremely mana hungry early
- "Dark Revenge" When Veigar dies, the champion who killed him gets marked with Dark Revenge. While this mark persists, Veigar's abilities do extra damage and slow to whoever has the mark. When Veigar gets a kill or assist on the champion with a mark, his AP boost for kills and assists is doubled Multiple enemies can be marked by dark revenge, and a single enemy champion can have up to 3 marks. An enemy champion with more marks is slowed more and takes more damage, and further multiplies the AP boost (2 marks, tripled, 3 marks quadrupled) Does not increase Baleful strike AP.
Pros: Fits well with theme Always gives Veigar a chance to come back Blends well with other abilities Gives Veigar more CC Better but not to strong early game Not too much AP (probably)
Cons: Punishes skilled players getting kills Not a lot of counter play Maybe too much CC
- "Is that a short joke?!" Veigar has dodge chance, because he is so small and hard to hit. Hooks and grapples don't work, because they just fly right over his head. Veigar can use abilities while stunned. Veigar has a really small hitbox.
Pros: Fits with theme, as well as height Makes Veigar more annoying More survivablity
Cons:
Dodge chance
All stuns are basically roots
No counter play
No ability synergy
Its a joke
Ult Ideas
- "Primordial charge AOE burst" Veigar channels primordial burst skill-shot over X seconds, while he is channeling, and for a little bit while it is fully channeled Veigar can move around with the charge with a movement slow for a certain amount of time, . Damage and AOE (and maybe stun) increases with charge time. (Extra idea: Enemies hit by the ult are knocked up (but untargetable) to the opposite side of the AOE circle, while enemies in the center are knocked straight up allowing for positional stratagem. If knocked up enemies hit each other, they are stunned when they land and all land in the center)
Pros: Fits with theme Extremely powerful and scary like Veigar should be power balanced by travel time and counter play Unique and better than current ult ability synergy
Cons:
Can be really OP when it hits
Lots and lots of ability synergy, especially with Veigar's E and W
Would be extremely strong with AP scaling, might need to be from the current %100
- "Multiple use skill shot burst" Like the current primordial burst, but is a skill shot that if it kills a champion, allows veigar to shoot another primordial burst every time he a kills a champion (Extra: Veigar can shoot the other primordial burst from the dead champions location)
Pros: fits with theme Better than current ult, but more counter play for being a skill shot Allows for a longer burst combo, at best being E-W-Q-R-R-R-R-R
Cons: A bit too similar to current ult still just a glorified finisher OP with AP scaling
- "SUPER MEGA ULTRA RAPID FIRE (SMURF)" All of Veigar's abilities have no cool down or mana cost for a limited time.
Pros: Fits with theme Its a short joke Ability synergy
Cons:
No cool unique ult
OP with AP scaling
Veigar is not Ryze
