League of Legends lacks a truly evil Villain.

Knalxz··7 votes·2,153 views

While Garen will say anyone on the enemy team is the Villain I think it hurts the game a little bit for there being no true Dark Side. By Evil I mean the person seeking to destroy not because they want something but just because they're a prick. A type of person who literally every character in the game hates and if it ever came to it would unite to kill this person.

If you think Noxus is the central evil then you're unaware of the fact that they're the only free nation in all of Valoran. Demacia has a brutal level classicism and judging from Lux's lore a decent level of sexism but I'm unsure of it because Fiora seems to be respected enough but she could be as special occasion since well she's on the upper echelon.

The Void could be the villain but they're more of an invasion force, we just don't really know where from. We know that they want everyone dead but alot of people want everyone dead so what's with that. They still aspire to helping their fellow void creatures and wish them the best. They have fears such as Rek'Sai being their species equivalent of a tiger and they're just seeking to expand their borders...through interdenominational invasion, sort of like

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cxVKech_xKU/maxresdefault.jpg

While you might not agree with them they're still just people doing what's best for themselves.

The Shadow Isles certainly has some nasty creatures in it but again they're moving to further a goal that we're just unaware of. they're not really a villain just a problem for the living. Which in just about every other context that'd certainly be the person I'm talking about but League seems to be like dragon Ball with death just kind of being a bump on the road.

A good villain that's just a middle finger to everyone he comes across is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av68J3VyJmg

Good Ole Palpatine. Not only is e evil but he loves being evil. He's the old man who knows he's going to die soon so is only goal in life is to ruin as much as possible on his way out.

He kills his more powerful master in his sleep breaking his code, he starts the largest war ever, he creatures an Empire then intentionally sabotages those under his tutelage, not to challenge them but he because he just likes suffering. The only person who comes close to this wind pisser is Sir. Malicious Metal himself Mordekaiser . But Palpatine's even worse then he is. Atleast Morde likes stuff, Palpatine went out of his way to eat a planet with lightning.

Why?

IT EXISTED!

Palpatine is so eivl that he found a way to go to the afterlife and mock those who had died because including his master and best students?

Why?

Because he could.

The only reason he even had children was because he thought that despite him being immortal he'd actually might be killed through some means he couldn't understand and feared that no one would keep up the pain. That's his goal in life, to be a a giant middle finger to the universe and to keep that ball rolling for as long as possible, if forever. The worst part is that he does it with a smile.

League lacks this kind of character, while there are certainly arrogant and power beings there is nothing that everyone just hates. Even a previous sith lord who was doing what Palpatine did 4,000 years before the man was born felt the amount of suffering he'd bring to the universe, then STOPPED his own crusade of pain because he knew he could never live up to that guy.

League needs this kind of character. It needs a true villain.

44 Comments

Crett11 votes

Veigar!!!!!!!!!

A Superb Villain3 votes

YOUSONUVA-

Kallian1 votes

i feel like he's a comedic relief to the type of people op is talking about tbh

Crett8 votes

I AM Evil STOP LAUGHING!!!

A Superb Villain3 votes

Ripping apart the cosmos and flinging it around like yesterday's trash is no laughing matter.

Arakadia1 votes

no laughing matter.

Because space and physics.

Thunderspam1 votes

So much evil in such a tiny package...

Keepe5 votes

Mordekaiser is kinda the villain character at the moment. Has a Lich King motif going on here. Now if only Riot actually gave two effs about his kit.

OurLestrade4 votes

2D true evil is a bit boring though. Hard to make something complex without grey areas.

Knalxz3 votes

It's only boring if the writer is an idiot. Like I said Palpatine is literally just an asshole with crazy power and still is a beloved asshole. If you're going to make some one 2-D do it to the extreme is pretty good and easy start to it.

I.E Joffrey from Game of Thrones. You love to hate him because he's just such an asshole.

333lom2 votes

I agree with you. I really like characters with gray morals, but I think it's starting to get ridiculous how everyone's suddenly elevating gray characters to the title of divine.

I mean, if everyone's gray, then nobody's different, and the characters who truly deserve to be on the line or appear so, get their importance diminished.

This is a fantasy world for goodness sake, it can survive with a few 2D characters who are nicely written. Heck, it would even thrive, because they add their own distinctive flavour to the world. I want to read fantasy, I wouldn't want every character to be a morally gray one; if I did, I'd just go read the newspapers or a novel from realism.

GreenLore2 votes

But Palpatine did all this for a reason. He wanted to rule over the galaxy. The planets he destroyed were to strike down and demoralize the rebellion,not for fun.

So I don't see how Morde doesn't fit that description already. I mean read through Mordes lore,he enslaves the servants that revived him,he wants to conquer the continent purely for his own ego,he was such an evil force that the whole continent united against him(several times) and when he attacked a demacian fort and was about to kill(and enslave) the demacian captain,he told him that he'll force him to slay his own allies just because he could.

Epic Murph4 votes

Gangplank is kind of a douche

Knalxz2 votes

Yeah but nations and interdimensional beings don't have him as public enemy #1.

CobaltTheMadMage3 votes

Viegar is evil for its own sake,

Gangplank is a friggin' pirate king,

everything in the Void wants to destroy Runeterra for its own reasons,

Mordekaiser is a lich emperor who wishes to reinstate his reign of terror on Valoran with the help of the undead plague that is the Black Mists,

Noxus seeks to crush everything in Valoran it deems weak or inferior,

Lissandra wants to conquer the world in a global ice age,

Syndra is power-crazed and feels entitled to the world for it,

Viktor is basically Cyberman Stalin,

Nocturne wants to horribly murder everything living in Runeterra simply because its existence offends him,

nobody knows what the hell Fiddlesticks is up to but it clearly involves making lots of people dead or mad from fear,

Xerath exterminated his homeland in a botched effort to get revenge on someone who didn't even wrong him and is now caught in a perpetual power trip,

Thresh horribly tortures anyone he comes accross for the rest of eternity just because it amuses him,

Brand wants to burn the world,

Dr. Mundo has a PhD. in murder and regularly commits crimes against humanity just because he can,

and the horrible crap Singed has done has found its way into several different champs' backstories.

Lord Boltrix1 votes

Shaco

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

HEY KEEP NOXUS OUT OF IT, It's only part of em... Katarina's family are different, OKAY? If you wanna speak evil speak swain and his girlfriend LB... t_t

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5w9scXda,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2016-09-17T23:01:44.639+0000)

HEY KEEP NOXUS OUT OF IT, It's only part of em... Katarina's family are different, OKAY? If you wanna speak evil speak swain and his girlfriend LB... t_t

Oh yeah? Well-

quickly googles her lore

-She had ONE JOB!

one. job.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

To make peace in Ionia, so there wont be an open conflict between them and Noxus, which was fked up because of Demacians? She's doing politics and assassinations and commands one of the greatest clans in Noxus, most likely trains the elite assassins aswell... She has no time to be evil. /thread

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5w9scXda,comment-id=0008000100000000,timestamp=2016-09-18T00:58:42.049+0000)

To make peace in Ionia, so there wont be an open conflict between them and Noxus, which was fked up because of Demacians? She's doing politics and assassinations and commands one of the greatest clans in Noxus, most likely trains the elite assassins aswell... She has no time to be evil. /thread

She was supposed to kill a Demacian infantryman that unbeknownst to her was one of the most powerful and renowned frontliners of the Demacian military so the rest of the Noxian army would have an easier time slaughtering the Demacian forces when they resumed combat the next day, but when she saw a Demacian general just sitting there she assumed Demacia organized its army like Noxus did in that strength == rank and killed him instead of her actual target. This proved to be a mistake and cost Noxus most of its attacking forces, as well as her winning streak as that soldier proved to be much harder to kill awake than he would have been in his sleep.

Citations: the official League of Legends profile for Katarina, as well as the League of Legends Wiki page for katarina.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

1st. the wiki is 99% bs, 2nd. you tell me 1 story out of the 100 which exist. (this is the last update on her lore page u just said, which is from her newbie years) 3rd. do your homework better. :p

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5w9scXda,comment-id=000800010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-18T01:23:44.967+0000)

1st. the wiki is 99% bs, 2nd. you tell me 1 story out of the 100 which exist. (this is the last update on her lore page u just said, which is from her newbie years) 3rd. do your homework better. :p

  1. On what grounds can you make this assertion?
  2. From my research that profile has been revised, but the changes were minor enough so as to be unnoticeable.
  3. All right then, I'll bite. How about linking me to some of your sources, then, since none of my sources led me to the conclusions you have drawn?
zrWQMdGHtY1 votes
  1. Because it's wiki. People had made a wiki page about me with false info aswell like an year ago. Needed months of proof so it can be taken down. :)))
  2. Quit reading the "lore" there was a daily or weekly don't remember anymore, lore at start of the game, where it was full of Kata.
  3. I don't link. If u want it, find it yourself <3
CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5w9scXda,comment-id=00080001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-18T01:45:21.125+0000)

  1. Because it's wiki. People had made a wiki page about me with false info aswell like an year ago. Needed months of proof so it can be taken down. :)))
  2. Quit reading the "lore" there was a daily or weekly don't remember anymore, lore at start of the game, where it was full of Kata.
  3. I don't link. If u want it, find it yourself <3
  1. Wikis aren't inherently bad unless the articles they support don't cite appropriate sources. Especially not just because you had a bad experience with one.
  2. Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize official Riot lore directly from the developers on the board archives were not a legitimate source of league of Legends lore. Shall I turn to Fanfiction.net instead?
  3. So basically I am free to assume you get all your information from fanfictions, dreams, and/or your butt? Rammus Ok.

On a more serious note I did actually find those old story archives you are (hopefully) talking about. So far Katarina hasn't done anything to make her any more or less inherently villainous than Garen. She's just a murderer in service of her country- a country that just so happens to have a vested interest in conquering its neighbors through whatever means it can.

And that's assuming said lore is even still valid given the retcon of the Institute of War/Summoners/League of Legends itself.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Till now only Kata's lore hasnt change and Garen is a villian under shiny armor. >.> and what was the point of trying to make me look bad ,when you magically actually find out what im talking about? My tale that i write is probly the closest to lore (as a continue story) atm, so idk why ppl need to jump on me for not knowing stuff... Can't write if i dont know \o/ Even if not many ppl like/read it, it's like that.

Knalxz1 votes

And yet none of these characters move the world with their actions. While they are powerful none of them are at the center of LoL and viewed as the enemy to every nation they're jsut people who exist or could of existed at one point. Palpatine became LIGHTNING GOD and the very empire he made attempted to kill him after leaning what he did to them during his reign.

Like genetically mutating his son, throwing him in prison, letting him rot while being tortured and then letting him free just so he could kill people for having such a life.

Gamer Gallade1 votes

Viktor is somewhat a bad guy but hes more of a Cyber Dr.Doom and has a whole group of followers that support him.

Singed is only hired by Noxus and wanted to try some gas on some Ionians & Noxians. Cough cough Varus Riven MasterYi Irelia .

The whole DrMundo thing...

Someone will get revenge on him for doing some F'ed up experiments on all kinds of people. Pretty sure a lot of them died but what if one survived and escaped from Mundo. Hopefully, Riot will make a champion who wants revenge towards Mundo and all of Zauns corruptions. (And i made a champion that wants to cleans up Zaun's act and kill Mundo.)

Around999People2 votes

Personally I found Palpetine boring.

You mentioned no one being truly enemy #1 to everyone, well, Palpetine wasn't enemy #1 to the largest political and military force of his time. He ruled the damn thing. So you can't be looking for someone who's hated by everyone.

A few thoughts:

  1. Nocturne: He would fit the bill I'd think. He's an extremely powerful being who loves to drive people into suicide through fear just for the kick of it. He killed a lot of summoners, the beings that run the League of Legends. I mean I haven't read a lore where there were more of them killed by one being.

  2. Xerath: The guy destroyed an entire empire just to get more power, and then laughs in the face of everyone about it.

  3. Thresh: Thresh... I mean the guy tortures people for days just because he can. Physical, as well as psychological. He tortures the dead for eternity. He does it just because it's fun. He's not out to conquer the world, but anyone who runs into him will be having a horrible few days.

Knalxz2 votes

I'm assuming you've never read the Star Wars Eu because Palpatine is the main villain. Literally every issue of the modern star wars universe until the Yuzhan Vong War is his fault. It's just another roadblock he created to fuck life and even thought he didn't play a massive role in the Yuzhan Vong war he still was a major reason the invasion happened in the first place. The Yuzhan pride torture and Palpatine was seen as a demi-god to them. When they heard of his "death" they we're outraged and attacked.

Like I said in the post none of the lol characters are seen as evil, there is something there to make us sympathetic to them expect a few who are close to Palpatine but aren't to his level of ultimate evil.

Nocturne doesn't fit because he's just some entity who doesn't care for existence in general. He doesn't care for mortality because he doesn't understand it and really has never been given a reason too. Not to mention that if the Zed theory is true it pushes him further way from the ultimate evil. He's no more the villain of LoL then the Bogeyman is to all of humanity.

Xerath has I said above isn't a villain at all, if anything he's a misunderstood hero. The only thing that made him a bad person was killing those who enslaved him which honestly doesn't really shove him too far into the dark side.

Threshlike Nocture is just some entity. He just merely exists and doesn't care about the outside world otehr then what it can give him. He isn't actively seeking to tear everything down in every conceivable manner he just wants to keep doing what he loves which just so happens to be torutiring people. If you think Thresh is the villain of all of LoL then you should think that any torture within either nation would be as well since he serves specifically that purpose and that one only.

Compared to Palpatine who like I said above in the OP caused so much pain and suffering just because he could stopped a being in the past from doing the samething because he felt the amount of suffering Palpatine would bring and called it quits because h knew he could never match what Palpatine would do.

When a statement that powerful reaches into League, then we have our true villain.

The guy who burns the bridge he's making his slaves build because he wanted see if they'd rather die from falling or burning. That's what Paplatine did as the Emperor, just saw how many buttons he could push before people snapped.

Around999People1 votes

First I'd like to say great answer! Well thought out and everything!

Now onto my reply!

No, I never actually read the books. My knowledge is mostly from sites that debate whether thing A can beat thing B. An example would be The Galactic Empire from Star Wars Vs The Forerunners from Halo. On there the debates focus on feats, calculating the raw power of an attack and compering it to the attack of something else. Or comparing production capabilities, speed, etc. Anything that can give an edge really.

So, from what I got there Palpetine was a bit boring for me. I mean yes, he kills people just for kicks and he goes out of his way to destroy his enemies. But, did he actively seek to destroy his own empire? Wouldn't that put him out of power and be ultimately counter productive? There's a difference between doing something like burning a bridge to see if people would choose death from falling or burning and actively knocking down the very thing that gives him the power to do so.

So, assuming he just caused misfortune all around and didn't go out to undermine himself, I still say Nocturne would be the best fit. You said that not understanding mortality makes him not count as the ultimate villain in League, but look at the similarities. Both Palpetine and Nocturne kill for pleasure. They love to cause fear and despair. They are both powerful and unique in their class. They're both arguably immortal, and both have no regard for life. Just because Nocturne isn't from the same plane of existence doesn't mean he doesn't count. He may not care for human existance and maybe he doesn't understand mortality, but the fact remains, he and Palpetine have many similarities, many of which you list as what makes Palpetine evil in the first place. The only reason Nocturne might not be the ultimate evil is because he doesn't control an empire which he can use as his play thing. He's one entity. Palpetine's death toll would be severely limited if he didn't have the Galactic Empire to do his bidding.

Knalxz1 votes

That's just it Palpatine did actively seek to destroy the empire because he believed it I was his sithly duty.

Sith go by many rules despite being the bad guys. One of those rules is that only the strong many survive. They constantly test their underlings to do better. And by test I mean attempt to kill them. They believe that if they die then I''ll just get a new one and that's exactly what Palpatine had planned to do since he was immortal. he'd just wait out and blow back if it ever got to the point that he couldn't handle it and other times he was so careful no one ever knew it was him until it was too late.

CommanderHaku1 votes

I just want to respond to the Xerath part. Xerath is by no means a misunderstood hero, he killed an entire empire because he wanted power. You can argue that it is because he wanted the slaves to be freed but once Azir announced he was freeing all of them he still shoved Azir out of the way so he could be ascended himself. When we think about why there can really only be one motivation and that is to become more powerful.

Allvandor2 votes

Syndra

Her lore is basically 'Screw the Light Side and talking about balance, I just want to reach my unlimited potential and use it for my own ends.' She even killed her master and raised a floating sky fortress. She's never really had any big lore event tied to her or tried to destroy a civilization, but Syndra basically is set up to be the villain who is evil for the sake of craving more power and not caring about the weaklings that get in her way.

Alpha Samsuni2 votes

What are you talking about? There are true villains in League of Legends! for instance.. http://media2.giga.de/2014/09/1zmmBa3.png

TBakes2 votes

Teemo

Lordk0z2 votes

Teemo

Karakot1 votes

I mean, Kled hates everyone except skarrl

FloRaider421 votes

I only know the movies, which is probably why I don't see Palpatine as you described, but as a boring and bland evil overlord craving power for the sake of power, that got overshadowed by his pupil in terms of badassery and intimidation.

Having a character that is evil for the sake of evil doesn't really work, even Tahm is evil, because he enjoys and feasts on suffering and not because he just likes it.

Knalxz1 votes

Most of the stuff I said about Palpatine was The EU where he is clearly the main villain of the entire star wars franchise regardless of what era it's taking place in.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Garen aint no hero... he's a bigger villain than anyone else... even Veigar...

WoonStruck1 votes

Nocturne

He is torment. He does it just for enjoyment. It is what gives him purpose. There is no end goal; just another victim to be had.

DrMundo

He inflicts pain on himself and others just for enjoyment, and is what led to his scientific obsession, not the other way around.

Mordepool1 votes

Viegar

Kuzja11 votes

You know Majora from Zelda Majora's Mask? Would a monster like him count as a true villain? If it does then I guess that's the kind of champion we need in League.

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