Ambassador Karma Concept

Sayomi·Dec 5, 2016·24 votes·1,786 views

Ambassador Karma

i asked you guys about the name and thank you! all of them were totally nice and here is the finished thing.

24 Comments

Colgate GatorDec 5, 20169 votes

I really don't want to be "that guy", but I'd prefer if the skin retained her original skin color.

Not because of any SJW crap, I just really like Karma's design. Still, upvote.

IxtaliKingDec 5, 20168 votes

Whenever I see a fan art which changes her skin tone, it makes me wonder... why? :/

NielarkenDec 6, 20163 votes

I mean its not even just a skin color change she doesnt even have the same face.

PlacentasDec 5, 20166 votes

Cool design and concept, doesn't really read "Karma" that much to me though.

23382622_DELDec 5, 20167 votes

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Cool design and concept, doesn't really read "Karma" that much to me though.

The fact that she is depicted as white is off

EpicanianDec 6, 20165 votes

why does it make her white

SayomiDec 6, 20162 votes

Because I feel this color skin is better with the clothes. Just it. No racism stuff at all

23382622_DELDec 6, 20163 votes

Speaking for myself, skin color, because of years of colonialism, hegemony and racism, is important in this context of whitening a character who is a person of color. Like I tried to emphasize in my previous post, I don't think you were trying to make a racist statement, or are yourself racist, but, inherently, there is something naive about not understanding the implications of a person of color not being attractive on the basis of their skin color; or, furthermore, altering a person with the_ aim of making them more attractive_ on the basis of their skin color.

Speaking in a vacuum, I would love it if skin color and issues of racism were not an issue. However, history, and it reverberating consequences, make these issues, unfortunately, relevant. To be clear, this post, specifically, is addressed to your question about why the change of skin color was an issue. Please do not interpret me as asserting that you are racist, or that your concept is trying to make some underlying statement. I do not believe that you were. I get it, you were trying to make a skin concept. However, the choice of lightening a character, who has a specific identity, because their race doesn't fit with an aesthetic, while maybe not malicious, is, like I said before, eyebrow raising at the very least.

Respectfully,

Silkstone

CasterGilgameshDec 6, 20161 votes

there really isnt a problem with changing the skin color in a skin IMO its like saying changing Kassadin Ryze skin color in skins would be bad. in the very end of the day skins are from alternate universes where everything can be drastically different this isnt to say i dont feel like the original skin color would fit better though...

MariusThdiDec 5, 20162 votes

no.

DrugsForRobotsDec 5, 20162 votes

I especially like the shading / color of her skin!

EpicanianDec 6, 20165 votes

isn't that just blatant racism? or am I missing something?

23382622_DELDec 6, 20166 votes

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isn't that just blatant racism? or am I missing something?

It is some kind of statement. First, I will give the artist the benefit of the doubt, and believe that the artist had no actual intent of racism. (Implicitly, of course, there is a reason for everything - and why the artist chose to whiten Karma is unclear to me). However, the choice to change Karma's race is eyebrow raising, especially given that League has a dearth of people of color to begin with.

Again, I believe that the choice to whiten karma was naive, and did not come from a place of maliciousness. That said, this is also not something that should be condoned. (Could go on forever about this subject). I want emphasize that I do not want to put the poster on the defensive - this clearly was innocent and, from my perspective, naive.

SayomiDec 6, 20162 votes

I don't know why the skin color is weird to you guys Why should I be racism? It's just a fan made skin concept Riot did skin color change too. Look at Nidalee skins. Does challenger Nidalee have the same skin color ??? What about dragon trainer lulu?

LycopolisKingDec 6, 20162 votes

And it was a problem with Nidalee as well. If you remember, Riot first tried to publish Warring Kingdom Nidalee as this: With white skin. And it was only after fans noticed the blatant skin tone change that they rectified it: Restoring her skin tone.

This is a problem that seems to exist only with Nidalee and Karma and the only reason for I can see is that some people think their skin tone is 'up for interpretation.' Well, the interpretation most fans like is that or her with darker skin, as it adds a bit of flair and uniqueness to the character, and to see that taken away immediately makes this skin concept not true to the character. It's like seeing Karma without her Mantle of Decorum or the like. It's part of the character, and fans respect that.

I hope this helps.

DrugsForRobotsDec 6, 20161 votes

~~I especially like the shading / color of her skin!~~

Edit: I think the artist did a good job shading / coloring her legs!

Shaco

CRYOATIC01Dec 5, 20161 votes

Do you take requests? i am terrible at concept art (on computers) but i have had an idea going for a while now. help a brother out maybe? this looks great by the way. Upvoted

SayomiDec 5, 20161 votes

Thanks I gladly help if I can do anything for you

Alex LuuDec 5, 20161 votes

idk why she's an ambassador

Pisces StarChildDec 5, 20161 votes

Hey DawnAngel,

I really like the concept. Thanks for sharing with us. I guess my only concern is that it doesn't really give me an "ambassador" feel/vibe when I'm looking at the skin. The earpiece resembling fox ears make me think of Ahri or any half-fox, half-human creature out there instead. With that in mind, I think the skin should be renamed into one of Ahri's already existing ones. I think this will develop into a skin line if Riot notices it. The two I have in mind are Dynasty Karma or Midnight Karma (silver/white = moonlight). That's my suggestion for this piece. Great job once again. You got skills :)

SayomiDec 5, 20161 votes

Well ambassador was a suggested name and I liked it Sry for wrong pick:D Both names sounds awesome! Thank you!

Pisces StarChildDec 5, 20161 votes

Now now you don't have to apologize. That was merely my opinion on the skin. There's no right or wrong answers here :)

EchoZeeroDec 6, 20161 votes

This looks like Karma (LoL) meets Symmetra (Overwatch).

AsGard GodsDec 6, 20161 votes

Well let me just say this if you change one skin, in this case Karma it don't feel like Karma no more, here why.

Karma speaks a bunch of different languages here i tell you: This is very close to what she says/Does say.

Karma's first Chant: **"La Three An Non Vi" ** Hatian Creole means **"The Three Lives in Name" **_ (This can be directed from Karma as chanting to make one of her three abilities stronger and bringing new life into her regular old spells.)_

Karma's Second Chant: "Gaia Na Kiki Vi" More Latin based chant that means "Earth, Stop the Violence"_ ( Karma is a good natured person and it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that she would call upon the Earth's power to imbue her with it's strength so she can help stop the violence on the Fields of Justice. ) _ Karma's Third Chant: "Sa Ella Sa Tiri Vi" Ummm this is like a mix of different languages mostly Creole & Latin Spanish Mean something like "She will, in name, be with you" (So, clearly, this explains that Karma is digging deep in her Ionian powers to chant that she will be with you to fight, to protect you and to stand with you, as a Supportive champion like Karma would do.)

Here Ult Mantra: A mantra is a series of sounds, usually made up ones, that are repeated as a form of meditation.

Changing here skin color makes it feel like we lost her voice, it sound and looks better for here to be darker speaking in a native tongue

Its the same with Nid, since i see people mentioned here, she like or is a amazoness, so her dark skin fits her background.

Thats just me i love hearing Karma voice and seeing a skin color change make me feel like its gone even if its not, it wont sound or look right with the white skin tone. (please don't that that racist) Nid Warring skin was first white then change back, If you look at them back to back you see the darker skin does fit her better.