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Why I'm done buying skins

Nimmer··7 votes·1,987 views

It's simple: my content can drastically change. Before the Fiora VU I had no problem spending real money on RP. I work hard enough to afford skins so I like to buy them. But it is digital content and I'm someone who likes to know my hard-earned money is spent on lasting investments. I never felt cheated or tricked by my purchases with Riot. I've been buying skins for years. But today despite really wanting to buy the Zac chroma I didn't buy it. I couldn't bring myself to do it.

What if Zac gets a VU in a year because Riot doesn't think that he's jell-o enough. So they release his new VU and some people like it and some people don't. Lets say this hypothetical situation goes better than the Fiora VU and the community is split 50/50. And, hypothetically, I'm not one of the people who likes the new visual update. So now, all of a sudden, my purchased content that I spent my hard-earned money on is useless and I'm down the cost of a chroma pack (a little less than $5 I believe).

I guess these drastic changes have always been possible with LoL, I just usually trusted Riot wouldn't mess it up so bad. But now I'm not so sure. I didn't get anything for my money spent on skins after the Fiora VU except a champion and skins that I don't like. Are there any other champs I main that Riot plans on drastically changing? Idk. Maybe. I can't be the only one who is now concerned with what direction Riot is going to be taking with future visual reworks/updates. My money just isn't worth risking on changing content when I feel like even after massive negative fan feedback the change is pushed out anyway. How can I trust a company that doesn't trust it's fans? I can't. I can't trust that Riot won't drastically change another champ.

P.s. - "drastically change" = get the Fiora treatment

P.s.s. - I understand the ToS and how the rights to content work. It doesn't make what happened and what may happen again an okay thing to do (in my mind).

24 Comments

ilt5 votes

Yes, a refund on my Royal Guard Fiora would be nice. This isn't the skin I bought.

Linna Excel3 votes

It's simple: my content can drastically change.

And this is entirely fair.

PeachsProperty3 votes

you purchase in game content for an online game.

dont expect ti to be there forever.

it can change just as easily as shut down.

Nimmer3 votes

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you purchase in game content for an online game.

dont expect ti to be there forever.

it can change just as easily as shut down.

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Maybe instead of crying like a child you should try doing an adult action like posting a fix that Riot will accept or at least give a detailed post of what is wrong. Just saying drastically changed or everything looks awful won't get it fixed. In fact it might make Riot stop updating champions and champion who need these updates will never get them.

You're both missing the point. I'm pitching an argument for no longer trusting Riot with my money. What happened with Fiora is a disaster in my opinion. It's significant to note that I had previously been a very trusting person with content I spent RP on. But the Fiora VU was an absolute failure. With everything. The Fiora players legitimately begged for the VU to not go Live and it did anyway. Is Riot going to change more stuff we like into stuff we don't like?

Zmuecat2 votes

Don't respond to them, it's not worth your time.

You made your point, and it's a fair point, and half of the people responding are just screaming "YOU DON'T OWN IT, NOT YOUR PROPERTY" when you addressed that already.

There's no real discussion here unless you wanted people agreeing with you or change your mind.

Nimmer1 votes

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Don't respond to them, it's not worth your time.

You made your point, and it's a fair point, and half of the people responding are just screaming "YOU DON'T OWN IT, NOT YOUR PROPERTY" when you addressed that already.

There's no real discussion here unless you wanted people agreeing with you or change your mind.

That's unfortunate. Thought that was the point of moving to the new boards. Oh well.

Tamur1 votes

So instead of trying to make it better your just gonna say “I'm not going to buy anymore RP." In the past people posted their feeling on content that they didn't like and post possible fixes to that problem and it got fixed. Everything in a game is not the final product. There always something to be updated champions, skins, maps, to HUD.

PeachsProperty2 votes

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You're both missing the point. I'm pitching an argument for no longer trusting Riot with my money. What happened with Fiora is a disaster in my opinion. It's significant to note that I had previously been a very trusting person with content I spent RP on. But the Fiora VU was an absolute failure. With everything. The Fiora players legitimately begged for the VU to not go Live and it did anyway. Is Riot going to change more stuff we like into stuff we don't like?

fiora still has some of same skills...... you wanna talk about VU then let me bring up one of my favorite champs Karma

they gutted every....single....skill.

they removed her weapon (she had fans)

fiora atleast has her identity still.

Solo Josh2 votes

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Baunjo1 votes

This is the hardest laugh i have had today, thanks man

Snowball4u1 votes

While you are at it why dont you stop buying champions too because they will get updated too.

Nimmer2 votes

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While you are at it why dont you stop buying champions too because they will get updated too.

I can purchase champions with in-game currency. The IP model works although after four-five years of playing I never have anything to spend it on anymore and it just piles up.

Major Sparkles1 votes

When you purchase a skin (or music from I-Tunes) it is not yours. You're just asking for permission to use their product. Personally I don't buy skins anymore because I have better things to spend my money on, but to each their own.

Snowball4u1 votes

Damn man i thought i was the only one that red the tos

Nimmer2 votes

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When you purchase a skin (or music from I-Tunes) it is not yours. You're just asking for permission to use their product. Personally I don't buy skins anymore because I have better things to spend my money on, but to each their own.

That's understood by all, it simply isn't in Riot's nature to blatantly screw over its own fanbase so bad. The entire Fiora VU has been a pretty bad experience for a majority of Fiora players

Major Sparkles1 votes

I think the new Fiora is much better than the original.

Nagoh Shan2 votes

This is true, but iTunes wouldn't say "Everyone who bought Love Shack, your song is now being changed to Wrecking Ball because we believe it will improve the listener experience".

When you license a product you do get a certain amount of expectation of security in what you receive. I do think the skins look nice, but I definitely understand the frustration at the visual theme changing from "Lightly Armored Duelist" to "Lady Gaga Fencer". And I've mentioned the buy at your own risk issue as far back as Sion's VU when they did away with the traditional skin policy.

This would also have been manageable by holding on to the Traditional skin policy. It's also likely to be ignored until people get tired of venting at nothing.

Major Sparkles1 votes

When you purchase a skin (or music from I-Tunes) it is not yours. You're just asking for permission to use their product. And I have always enjoyed the updated versions of skins more than the previous.

Swollwonder1 votes

So you purchased a non physical product from a gaming company who desires to increase what is, in their mind, player experience by updating older content for free and the expectation was you would not ever have something updated?

You didn't buy champions or skins. You bought the right to use them which is why if riot decided to delete the entire game tomorrow all that money you spent is gone.

Nimmer4 votes

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So you purchased a non physical product from a gaming company who desires to increase what is, in their mind, player experience by updating older content for free and the expectation was you would not ever have something updated?

You didn't buy champions or skins. You bought the right to use them which is why if riot decided to delete the entire game tomorrow all that money you spent is gone.

It's not about the rights. I understand the rights. It doesn't make it any less of a terrible experience. Or disguise the fact it was an ill-fated update from the very beginning. When Riot (or any company) really screws something up the last group to "okay" the update is the community. The community did the exact opposite of "okay" this change and Riot did it anyway. And they updated older content that costs real money and made it subjectively worse. Sure, they have every right. Doesn't make it any less scummy of a thing to do to their own player base. I feel my reasons for not wanting to spend money on RP after a disastrous VU release are very warranted.

Swollwonder2 votes

Always welcome to leave the game. Boards could use less whiners anyway.

Vbunnie1 votes

well you may not like something but i do not believe this is the board for this disussion... not only that but you are one person and let me tell you just because things change does not make them bad they just mean you have to change too.

Tamur1 votes

Maybe instead of crying like a child you should try doing an adult action like posting a fix that Riot will accept or at least give a detailed post of what is wrong. Just saying drastically changed or everything looks awful won't get it fixed. In fact it might make Riot stop updating champions and champion who need these updates will never get them.

Vbunnie1 votes

The world advances and changes so too must its products. Would you go to the same store every day and expect things not to change? Would you really want that? every day it is the same people in line every day it is the same person at the register every day it is the same items on the menu? If so and you went there every day like how people play league every single day and nothing changed wouldnt it get a bit boring or dull? Not only that but you would also see one champion or another dominate every game... and it would always be the same ones.. The game would no longer be the diverse game league is today... it would in fact be a game of who counters who the best. would your really want that? Without change weather it be champion updates item changes or even the addition of mark/dash in aram the game would be boring... Without these updates there would not be new champions or power changes. Fiora needed a slight update to compare to new champs and give her some diversity in her kit as well as provide the kind of champ diversity needed for things like competitions as well as providing her with a clear identity. Just because you dont like the way she looks now I think there is a classic skin available.

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