We need to be able to report OPs

Elphrihaim·Nov 18, 2014·3 votes·2,918 views

Because, quite simply, there are TONS of discussions that are in completely the wrong board. Or just... not discussions that should have been posted.

There are discussions that never get deleted by moderators that are in completely the wrong board.

So I suppose

A) Moderators need to actually check all the sub-boards (don't say that they do because they clearly don't) and actually move (well, delete) the content that doesn't belong in that section-- A, B, C, D, E-- are all posts that would be much better served if placed elsewhere.

or B) We need to be able to report OPs so that moderators will actually check and delete threads that are in the wrong section.

37 Comments

DaenNov 18, 20146 votes

We need to be able to report OPs

Maybe something like...this?

http://i.imgur.com/KyldKfw.png

Lumus AvatarNov 18, 20142 votes

I appreciate your effort in ensuring the visibility of the object of your image. I lol'd

DaenNov 18, 20142 votes

I appreciate your effort in ensuring the visibility of the object of my image by replying to my image appreciating my effort in ensuring the visibility of the object of my image.

...Or something to that effect.

Lumus AvatarNov 18, 20141 votes

Indeed.

eztarg3tNov 19, 20142 votes

Could you add more arrows and boxes, maybe even a few circles? I'm having difficulty figuring out what you are pointing at.

DaenNov 19, 20141 votes

Hmm, I need to be more clear in the future. Maybe I should draw a treasure map leading to what I'm trying to point out...

Things to think about.

TamatNov 20, 20143 votes

Good news guys, there's now a way to report OPs! Ha. Seriously though, this player is reporting it because it may not be as obvious as it could be. We could definitely look into how to make it more obvious looking, but I doubt that would sit high on our iteration priorities.

ProfDrDeathNov 20, 20141 votes

Strange. Why can't I usually see that button?

The report buttons on comments work just fine, but the report button on the OP is just not there...

ElphrihaimNov 20, 20141 votes

Good news guys, there's now a way to report OPs! Ha. Seriously though, this player is reporting it because it may not be as obvious as it could be. We could definitely look into how to make it more obvious looking, but I doubt that would sit high on our iteration priorities.

No, I am not making this thread because I couldn't find it. If it was there I would have looked.

I made this thread only because the button doesn't exist on

What browser are you using, and what version?

Firefox 28.0

Screenshot taken while logged into friends' account (b/c obviously the report button wouldn't be there if I wasn't logged in... right?):

DaenNov 20, 20141 votes

It's more about the fact it doesn't exist on his computer/browser, rather than the feature not looking obvious. His title was misleading and I figured a slightly facetious comment could fit in well, but it seems numerous users are experiencing this bug where the report button is not present.

Deep Terror NamiNov 18, 20142 votes

I don't get it. Is there a board where you can't report the thread? I don't know any that don't have the report option.

Lumus AvatarNov 18, 20142 votes

You are already able to report threads as being in the wrong place.

Jenova SynthesisNov 18, 20141 votes

I can see where you're coming from, but Riot's got a lot to deal with as it is. Threads on the board being in a bad place isn't a really big deal, just scroll past them. I could see it implemented in the future, but right now Riot's got a lot of their plate. They seem to delete most of the bad ones.

DaenNov 18, 20141 votes

Threads on the board being in a bad place isn't a really big deal, just scroll past them.

Please don't use this as a reason for Riot to not moderate spam. I've seen other people use this line of reasoning as well, and it's a bit frustrating. I could equally say "just ignore pornography on the Boards, it's fine" and use that as reasoning for Riot to not moderate it properly.

I understand where you're coming from; spam doesn't feel overly serious and it doesn't break the law or do anything particularly horrible. That being said, allowing it to exist just because it can be skimmed over is poor policy.

Jenova SynthesisNov 18, 20141 votes

That's not quite what I was getting at. What I meant was, having an idea for a champion (or a Skin/Champion Concept) in the Tips & Tricks category doesn't matter, you can just scroll past those if that's not what you're looking for.

Riot's doing a perfectly good job of moderating spam on the boards as it is, I was trying to say that Riot shouldn't be wasting more resources on extra board moderation when it's being handled fairly well already.

Hyrum GraffNov 18, 20141 votes

Riot's mods are contractors, so it's not like better moderation wastes many development resources.

Jenova SynthesisNov 18, 20141 votes

Yeah, I guess that's true but I'm sure they have better things to do.

DaenNov 18, 20141 votes

What I meant was, having an idea for a champion (or a Skin/Champion Concept) in the Tips & Tricks category doesn't matter, you can just scroll past those if that's not what you're looking for.

Then why should we bother having specific boards for specific topics? I'm with you on it not being a big deal, but in a larger picture this kind of thing can really add up in a bad way.

As far as Boards moderation is concerned, my understanding is that the grunt work is handled by an external moderation company; Riot sets up policy and manages the external moderation team. It's less about wasting resources and more about refined policy, it would seem.

As I mentioned, I agree with you on the fact that wasting additional resources in this respect isn't super necessary. The thing that I wish we would see is moderation that can function without player reports. I would much rather see the thread that doesn't belong getting deleted automagically by moderators patrolling the subforums, rather than (seemingly) relying entirely on player reports.

With a slow connection it can be a pain to enter a thread you know is going to get deleted just to send the report, and I've seen threads last for hours or even days without moderator action because players just didn't report them.

Jenova SynthesisNov 18, 20142 votes

Yeah, I could see how that could be a problem in the bigger picture. I also understand that the boards are a place for suggestions and discussions. That being said, this thread in itself seems a bit unnecessary for 2 reasons.

It's more of a complaining thread than a suggestion thread. It seems like he's just aggravated that things are exactly right, or exactly the way he would handle the situation.
There already is a place where you can report threads and comments, so in theory this thread should also be deleted for it's complete and utter uselessness and lack of contribution.

In the original post, he says:

Or just... not discussions that should have been posted.

According to him, there's really no reason that this thread isn't deleted.

DaenNov 18, 20142 votes

Agreed on all counts.

Edit: Agreed on most counts.

There already is a place where you can report threads and comments, so in theory this thread should also be deleted for it's complete and utter uselessness and lack of contribution.

While I get where you're going with this, I don't think it's necessarily a good idea for threads to be deleted for being redundant or asking about features the OP hasn't noticed or hasn't described effectively.

If a user makes a thread asking where the upvote button is and seems sincere about it (that's important), I feel like that shouldn't be destroyed by a moderator. I would seriously hope no one would be that unobservant, but I guess it's possible.

ElphrihaimNov 19, 20141 votes

[i got lazy with quotes please forgive me]

That's not quite what I was getting at. What I meant was, having an idea for a champion (or a Skin/Champion Concept) in the Tips & Tricks category doesn't matter, you can just scroll past those if that's not what you're looking for.

This is not true.

Due to infinite-scrolling webpages and... what I'm inclined to say would be 'most of the forum-goers' not having phenomonal computers/internet speeds, each post that isn't related to what you're looking for adds up as you want to delve through "pages"-- say you want to find something but it happens to be 20 "pages" deep. The number of threads that you will encounter that are completely unrelated to the subforum you're on will probably add up to at least half a page's worth of threads, possibly a whole page-- and that's only for 20 pages. 40? 60? 80? It's ALREADY impossible to load (The Boards just don't cooperate with it), but if that ever gets fixed, I'd rather not have a fair portion of the RAM of my (not very good) computer be loaded with _completely unrelated things to the subforum I'm in_.

Riot's doing a perfectly good job of moderating spam on the boards as it is, I was trying to say that Riot shouldn't be wasting more resources on extra board moderation when it's being handled fairly well already.

I've seen plenty of spam threads not get deleted... I've seen plenty of threads that are in the wrong section stay in the wrong section for over a month...

I disagree with the statement '[forum moderation is] being handled fairly well already' quite heavily.

It's more of a complaining thread than a suggestion thread. It seems like he's just aggravated that things are exactly right, or exactly the way he would handle the situation.

Well, yes, I was aggravated and in a hurry so I didn't make this as good as I should have.

But imagine this scenario:

You enter a thread that gets continually bumped by the OP. The OP then spams replies to the thread and deletes those replies, causing the thread to stay bumped. You can't report the posts, since they're already deleted, and you can't report the topic post-- there's no button.

What do you do? You can't send in a ticket (there isn't an option for it), and you can't request something be done (as that falls under name-and-shame which evidently gets accounts banned).

Hence, "we need to be able to report [topic posts]".

And then rushing off to the important thing that you have to do. In my case, go to classes.

According to him, there's really no reason that this thread isn't deleted.

Well, you'd be correct, I think that since the button already exists, this thread should be locked.

Me not being able to see it is a different problem.

There already is a place where you can report threads and comments, so in theory this thread should also be deleted for it's complete and utter uselessness and lack of contribution.

#Valkyrie Witch

I don't get it. Is there a board where you can't report the thread? I don't know any that don't have the report option.

#Daen

Maybe something like...this?

http://i.imgur.com/KyldKfw.png

Iiinteresting (My browser does not have any buttons to report OPs. On ANY subforum.)

dustwind8Nov 19, 20141 votes

Iiinteresting (My browser does not have any buttons to report OPs. On ANY subforum.)

bottom right, click it and it brings up 4 options

Report as: Offensive Spam Harassment **Incorrect Board **

2 clicks away...

ElphrihaimNov 20, 20141 votes

bottom right, click it and it brings up 4 options

2 clicks away...

What part of "My browser does not have any buttons to report OPs" did you not understand--

The button literally does not show up. I cannot click on a button that doesn't exist. It might be two clicks away when the button exists, but the problem is that on my screen the button does not exist.

DaenNov 20, 20141 votes

What browser are you using, and what version?

ElphrihaimNov 20, 20141 votes

What browser are you using, and what version?

Firefox 28.0;

http://apollo-na-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/1416507894625/Capture.JPG

(Taken while logged into friend's account because I assumed that the report button would be hidden if it was my own post and if I wasn't logged in.)

DaenNov 20, 20141 votes

Have you tried this with a different browser, say the most recent version of Chrome?

Duke AnaxNov 21, 20141 votes

Odd, you are missing the entire line, the button should actually be below your screenshot and there should also be an option to share on facebook and twotter.

Btw Im using Firefox 30 and everything is fine.

ElphrihaimNov 20, 20141 votes

Have you tried this with a different browser, say the most recent version of Chrome?

No, because the boards fail to load content about 90% of the time on Chrome.

[And don't you dare say that I should try Internet Explorer.]

DaenNov 20, 20141 votes

I use Chrome exclusively, and other than the normal issues with the Boards I haven't run into failed content loading issues. Try Chrome or IE (yep I said it) and just see if you're able to see the Reply button. It knocks out a variable.

ElphrihaimNov 20, 20141 votes

I use Chrome exclusively, and other than the normal issues with the Boards I haven't run into failed content loading issues. Try Chrome or IE (yep I said it) and just see if you're able to see the Reply button. It knocks out a variable.

Well, I run into content failing to load on all browsers (including IE).

There's no reply button on Chrome when logged in as another account, though the report button does show up.

Additionally the report button appears when I'm not logged in on Firefox, but vanishes when I'm logged in.

And I'm not bothering to open IE because nnnnoooooo.

Unless Internet E Tan comes here. Then I'd be obligated to.

DaenNov 20, 20141 votes

Interesting.

Report Button Firefox: Report button is present when not logged in, disappears when logged in Chrome: Report button is present always

Reply Button Firefox: Reply button is always present Chrome: Reply button disappears when logged in

Is this correct? Regardless of account on Firefox the report button disappears when logged in? Same question for replies on Chrome?

ElphrihaimNov 20, 20141 votes

Is this correct? Regardless of account on Firefox the report button disappears when logged in? Same question for replies on Chrome?

Sadly no;

The report button is --Present on Firefox while logged out, absent while logged in --Present on Chrome regardless of login status

The reply button only appears when logged out of Chrome. It is invisible on both Firefox and Chrome while logged in, and while logged out of Firefox where it should be is a "Login to Comment" button.

majorashashNov 21, 20141 votes

REPORTED FOR REPORTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

ElphrihaimNov 21, 20141 votes

!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

... Why did you make this post?

I am wondering because reasons-that-I'd-rather-not-explain-right-now.

ElphrihaimNov 21, 20141 votes

Odd, you are missing the entire line, the button should actually be below your screenshot and there should also be an option to share on facebook and twotter.

Yay, I love broken forums.

share on facebook and twotter.

. ...... ... .... .. ....... .... .... .. . .... ...... ....... .... . .. .... .. .... ..... .... .. ..... ....... ..... ... .... .. .. I should not have to explain that that is a very stupid thing that I am glad to have never seen or heard existing until you told me so.

(But seriously, what's the point in having such buttons? If they want to read it they'll read it, if I think it's important I can figure out how to get it on those myself, I don't need a button.

Lord knows how much I hate facebook/twitter and their associated "share this here" buttons that started existing.)