I heard Toxicity is down in the League community

S H A Y C 0·Jul 1, 2016·26 votes·2,070 views

The last of all of my friends quit league this morning.

"I asked for a gank from my jungler and then got flamed and harassed by my team and the enemy team for the next 15 minutes. Im sorry but i have uninstalled league, i dont want to be a part of this community anymore" - My buddy 7-1-2016 10:15am EST

All of my real life friends have walked away from this community for similar reasons. All but one of my league made friends have also walked away...the only one left plays a couple times a month.

You can make as many announcements as you want...but this community is the worst i have ever encountered, and i came here from Call of Duty.

54 Comments

GlîtchyJul 1, 201610 votes

"Toxicity is down" Riot says,

Yet in reality it's gone UP, premades can be toxic and never face their own teammates reporting them.

Negan x LucilleJul 1, 20162 votes

I had a 2 weeks ban 6 month ago and I've had the best attitude since that day. However, I got perma this week after a game where a bunch of premade insulted me cause I had a bad game, I've decided to talk with them, gently defending myself while I was called toxic and troll.

But "Punishments occur when reports are validated." and for that case, a rioter decided that it was validated. So I basically got perma after undeserved reports by premades. Feelsbadman

Mig89Jul 2, 20163 votes

post chat logs

Meanie40Jul 2, 20161 votes

More specifically, the link in your reform card informing you of your ban.

Magical PlayerJul 1, 20165 votes

toxicity is down. Riot does care about the community If you're offended or easily tilted just mute everyone going into game turn your chat off completely and you'll never have to read it.

The problem may stem from the community but you do have options to eliminate it Make a premade team(if you flame there that is due to you being a flamer) Stop giving a shit outside ranked games ;D, this is key since we all know everyone tries 100%, 100% of the time....

good day

S H A Y C 0Jul 1, 20163 votes

youre name is fitting. magical thinking from a magical player.

as a point of contention - the top game in korean pc bangs is no longer league of legends...its overwatch. Maybe its just a fad...but only time will tell.

So you say toxicity is down..how can you tell?

Magical PlayerJul 1, 20162 votes

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youre name is fitting. magical thinking from a magical player.

as a point of contention - the top game in korean pc bangs is no longer league of legends...its overwatch. Maybe its just a fad...but only time will tell.

So you say toxicity is down..how can you tell?

How can you say it's up?

The only way to know if the game is worse is better is how? Korea= NA?

Sure overwatch is big right now, what does that have to do with toxicity in league?

I've played since season 1, like yourself. I've seen my and given my fair share of toxicity to the game and overall I think that the game has improved from being toxic.

S H A Y C 0Jul 1, 20162 votes

korea isnt na - the overwatch notation was no more than a side note. I apologize for getting off track. However korea is seen to be the premier region for league..and they have stopped playing, so it should at least be something of import to you.

That said, Although my experience may be anecdotal, i have experienced more and worse evilness than when i started and all my friends have left over the course of the 2 years ive played and the last of them left this morning and uninstalled the game. I understand thats a small experience pool...but it at least supports my stance on the matter.

You have only stated that you think its better, and have yet to give any evidence..not even weak or anecdotal evidence. Besides riot keeps saying it... what shows things are better now?

Magical PlayerJul 1, 20162 votes

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korea isnt na - the overwatch notation was no more than a side note. I apologize for getting off track. However korea is seen to be the premier region for league..and they have stopped playing, so it should at least be something of import to you.

That said, Although my experience may be anecdotal, i have experienced more and worse evilness than when i started and all my friends have left over the course of the 2 years ive played and the last of them left this morning and uninstalled the game. I understand thats a small experience pool...but it at least supports my stance on the matter.

You have only stated that you think its better, and have yet to give any evidence..not even weak or anecdotal evidence. Besides riot keeps saying it... what shows things are better now?

Your stating your friends quit. I think that is having an impact on how you see the game. so if korea changes that means league is now more toxic NA? I've had friends come and go both rl and those I met in game toxicity was never a major reason they quit. It came down to them being unable to climb to where they thought they belonged Then it comes shitty players, then game not remakeable at 5 mins or ff not at 15, but toxicity is never the determining factor

What evidence do you have to prove your point?

S H A Y C 0Jul 1, 20161 votes

you cant read

good bye

Magical PlayerJul 1, 20161 votes

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you cant read

good bye

You bring your friends, a small part of the league community I don't take that as evidence. if you don't take mine as evidence

S H A Y C 0Jul 1, 20162 votes

im sorry i stopped reading your post when you started saying ignorant crap...i had already stated it was irrelevant and apologized.

so if korea changes that means league is now more toxic NA?

thats where i stopped reading...im not saying goodbye again. you can have the rest of this conversation with yourself. good day sir.

Magical PlayerJul 1, 20161 votes

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im sorry i stopped reading your post when you started saying ignorant crap...i had already stated it was irrelevant and apologized.

thats where i stopped reading...im not saying goodbye again. you can have the rest of this conversation with yourself. good day sir.

"as a point of contention - the top game in korean pc bangs is no longer league of legends...its overwatch. Maybe its just a fad...but only time will tell." Again you pulled the point on KOREA I asked for the relevance of how Korea changing to OW makes league more toxic

GlîtchyJul 6, 20161 votes

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toxicity is down. Riot does care about the community If you're offended or easily tilted just mute everyone going into game turn your chat off completely and you'll never have to read it.

The problem may stem from the community but you do have options to eliminate it Make a premade team(if you flame there that is due to you being a flamer) Stop giving a shit outside ranked games ;D, this is key since we all know everyone tries 100%, 100% of the time....

good day

Sorry, but I MUST disagree with you, because claiming Toxicity has dropped without any evidence to back it up is pretty bad, numerous users have seen toxic players as opponents, besides personally I'd like to see toxic noobs get bitten for their boorish behavior for a change.

Magical PlayerJul 6, 20161 votes

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Sorry, but I MUST disagree with you, because claiming Toxicity has dropped without any evidence to back it up is pretty bad, numerous users have seen toxic players as opponents, besides personally I'd like to see toxic noobs get bitten for their boorish behavior for a change.

disagree with me, thats fine. show me evidence to prove your point My evidence is riot saying toxicity is down. I'm not preaching that, I'm mearly stating what riot said. You think there is more toxicity find a sample size of 10k users and collect the data. Your entire counter argument is to convince me is some people said toxic people exist therefore they exist and are rampaging. You see how easy it is to discredit that. You want me to think your disagreement is valid, show the evidence. Don't just say "he said she said" or even better " my personal experience has shown" when you are not an expert in this field. What is boorish behavior? you classified "toxic noobs" with this term, what does it entail? discredit my comment all you like. But show the evidence to back your point up or piss off

GlîtchyJul 6, 20161 votes

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disagree with me, thats fine. show me evidence to prove your point My evidence is riot saying toxicity is down. I'm not preaching that, I'm mearly stating what riot said. You think there is more toxicity find a sample size of 10k users and collect the data. Your entire counter argument is to convince me is some people said toxic people exist therefore they exist and are rampaging. You see how easy it is to discredit that. You want me to think your disagreement is valid, show the evidence. Don't just say "he said she said" or even better " my personal experience has shown" when you are not an expert in this field. What is boorish behavior? you classified "toxic noobs" with this term, what does it entail? discredit my comment all you like. But show the evidence to back your point up or piss off

It's quite simple really, I have ran a statistics test and out of all the games I played in the last 2 months. almost every time there was a premade, they were toxic as hell. I ran into about 25 premades in a grand total, 22 out of 25 were toxic, the 3 that weren't remained silent.

Magical PlayerJul 7, 20161 votes

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It's quite simple really, I have ran a statistics test and out of all the games I played in the last 2 months. almost every time there was a premade, they were toxic as hell. I ran into about 25 premades in a grand total, 22 out of 25 were toxic, the 3 that weren't remained silent.

small sample, proves nothing. sample size to be worth anything for something this large is 10-50k 25 games, is meaningless whats more its 25 games by 1 individual. Ofc the data is skewed towards your opinion. gather thousands of games of data from thousands of people Like league does, to reinforce your arguement

GlîtchyJul 7, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zJfUsI4J,comment-id=00060001000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-07T01:18:22.903+0000)

small sample, proves nothing. sample size to be worth anything for something this large is 10-50k 25 games, is meaningless whats more its 25 games by 1 individual. Ofc the data is skewed towards your opinion. gather thousands of games of data from thousands of people Like league does, to reinforce your arguement

You do know that they're going mainly by reports right? and premades next to NEVER report one another.

Magical PlayerJul 7, 20161 votes

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You do know that they're going mainly by reports right? and premades next to NEVER report one another.

so a small subset of the community? Even still, your point that premades don't report eachother.... I love dynamic queue,I'll still report them if they go into to feed/troll. Again, the data set riot uses is vastly superior to your 25 game set Sure it may not be 100% accurate, but I'm willing to bet that it's pretty accurate

GlîtchyJul 7, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zJfUsI4J,comment-id=0006000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-07T05:27:59.571+0000)

so a small subset of the community? Even still, your point that premades don't report eachother.... I love dynamic queue,I'll still report them if they go into to feed/troll. Again, the data set riot uses is vastly superior to your 25 game set Sure it may not be 100% accurate, but I'm willing to bet that it's pretty accurate

As if I'd take a kiss-up's word for it, the moment the premade trolls me, I immediately refuse to aid them any longer.

Magical PlayerJul 7, 20161 votes

so you refuse to work with your team, then you lose games, shocking

GlîtchyJul 7, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zJfUsI4J,comment-id=000600010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-07T05:54:21.567+0000)

so you refuse to work with your team, then you lose games, shocking

No, I refuse to work when they choose to troll, I CANNOT tell you how many times my teammates who are premade say, "we want more of a challenge" so they give the opposition 3 kills each, so I just start thinking, "wtf is wrong with you?"

Magical PlayerJul 7, 20161 votes

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No, I refuse to work when they choose to troll, I CANNOT tell you how many times my teammates who are premade say, "we want more of a challenge" so they give the opposition 3 kills each, so I just start thinking, "wtf is wrong with you?"

report move on, don't start throwing the game because they did.

Mystic ShovelJul 1, 20165 votes

I dont understand this. Like yes the community is "toxic" (although I hate that word for it. It's an extremely competitive community), but you realise you don't have to deal with that right? "/mute all" at the start of every game. I have done that for like my last 100 games and my play has improved due to not being tilted by comments in the chat and I enjoy league so much more. The majority of you play Solo in the Dynamic queue anyway so theres really no one you're listening for. Chances are whatever your team mate is going to say will be useless information that could just be pinged. (Unless its timings on things). Really no need to have to bother listening to anyone in the chat. (If they got time to type a paragraph on why you suck, chances are they suck). Don't even give them a chance xD.

S H A Y C 0Jul 1, 20163 votes

cant mute anything in champ select...and this is where my parents are often threatened their lives if i dont select a champion or if i feed.

in other words...this community is the worst on the internet, and the internet is pretty disgusting

Preußen RuhmJul 2, 20162 votes

why do you care about what obvious shit heads say?

RookPusherJul 1, 20163 votes

It's funny, but it really seems like they're afraid to punish people for fear of losing players, but by not punishing players, they're losing players.

I don't mean punish because of existing rules, I mean making it harder for people to be obnoxious jerks. Ranked isn't protected nearly enough.

S H A Y C 0Jul 1, 20161 votes

I almost understand why people are so angry here, because the ranked system is infuriating...the matchmaking is aweful and the path to victory can be unclear to people who havent spent countless hours researching it and watching educational content on youtube.

But still...i dont understand how this game is breeding such malice that it forces people out. My buddy has been playing since season 2 and just uninstalled the game. I have become disenchanted or bored with a game before, but "disgusted?" thats something new for me.

ZerolockeJul 1, 20162 votes

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I almost understand why people are so angry here, because the ranked system is infuriating...the matchmaking is aweful and the path to victory can be unclear to people who havent spent countless hours researching it and watching educational content on youtube.

But still...i dont understand how this game is breeding such malice that it forces people out. My buddy has been playing since season 2 and just uninstalled the game. I have become disenchanted or bored with a game before, but "disgusted?" thats something new for me.

I am ranking up as a soloq player and I have never watched one video, read one guide, etc etc. I can understand people that do learn from those as gives them insight into w/e they might of not had before. I just do not understand why this is part of w/e you're trying to prove. How people learn to play the game has nothing to do with matchmaking.

It isn't just League, people have been talking crap about each other in mobs all the way since dota over a decade ago. I think the disgusted part is because the trash talking was there, just since you had friends playing you cared less. Because you're friend lost a bad game and got flamed he quit league forever. Which made you think about what trash talking really happens in the game.

In really I find all the trash talking that happens in game normal. Most of it isn't even bad; people saying you're not good at the game, you're stupid, etc etc; that is like w/e just someone that cannot even have a point to why they think you're bad. Rather be back in TDA days back in dota where only racism and life treats would kick someone banned. Tired of this carebare hand holding you say something and it is toxic crap.

VoidreyJul 1, 20162 votes

kinda makes the voice chat idea a lot less appealing

SpookÿJul 7, 20162 votes

You know this shit is bad when it's being compared to Call of Duty

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

oh that zedJul 1, 20161 votes

I only wish, we could have done some games together!

S H A Y C 0Jul 1, 20161 votes

i havent left yet, but all my friends are gone. that quote was from him in a text to me this morning.

oh that zedJul 1, 20161 votes

if you're not leaving instantly we could possibly do some games togetherrrrrrr

oh that zedJul 1, 20161 votes

it's not the game, it's never the game, it's just the playerbase. it used to be good at season 2/3/4 but then came in the rabble of 13 years old (or around that) . it's the fate of every good game. if there's a game on the ryze (heh), play the shit out of it before everybody else comes and starts flaming. it's also probably because lol is a free game, and if you get banned you can always remake an account, unlike in overwatch, where you gotta be careful.

oh that zedJul 1, 20161 votes

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it's not the game, it's never the game, it's just the playerbase. it used to be good at season 2/3/4 but then came in the rabble of 13 years old (or around that) . it's the fate of every good game. if there's a game on the ryze (heh), play the shit out of it before everybody else comes and starts flaming. it's also probably because lol is a free game, and if you get banned you can always remake an account, unlike in overwatch, where you gotta be careful.

so is that a yes on the game we gonna do together?

S H A Y C 0Jul 1, 20161 votes

i have no one else to play with so sure! lol :P Maybe itll keep me from buying overwatch on the way home.

Im on eastern time though, and i get on around 5 -5:30 pm est.

S H A Y C 0Jul 1, 20161 votes

i dont think thats entirely true. There is always mean and angry people on the internet with no manners, but for some reason here in this game they are MORE angry and more often.

I never heard cancer as an adjective until league. Ive never heard so many people tell someone to kill themselves in my entire 32 years on this planet until i came to league of legends.

oh that zedJul 1, 20161 votes

excellent, i also have eastern timezone.

S H A Y C 0Jul 1, 20162 votes

feel free to add me then, hopefully i will see you on the rift later

S H A Y C 0Jul 2, 20161 votes

feel free to add me then, hopefully i will see you on the rift later

this community is so trash that even this gets downvotes....

Great FoxJul 1, 20161 votes

It's common knowledge that Riot falsifies almost all of their statistics and statements when it comes to League of Legends toxicity levels. They try to claim that only 0.02% of their Community has been permanently banned, but we all know it's a lot more than that.

Now they're saying that their toxicity levels is going down... well, I wonder why? League is slowly losing it's playerbase. People are getting tired of Riot continuing to nerf every unique and fun champion in the ground, then leaving them alone for 2-3 years until a Rework happens. They don't listen to their community like they did back in the early stages of the game, all they care about now is eSports and profit - screw the community - and it all started when Tribunal was removed.

Sad part of it all, is that the Korean playerbase is Riot's biggest profit, that's where all the LCS and eSports profit is coming from, but even Korea is dropping League slowly, there's less pro teams... League is dying, just as every game does at a certain point - it's been running for 7 years, the game has been figured out since 2011 (Mage/Assassin Mid - Bruiser/Tank Top - Bruiser/Tank Jungle - ADC/Support Bot).

Magical PlayerJul 1, 20161 votes

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It's common knowledge that Riot falsifies almost all of their statistics and statements when it comes to League of Legends toxicity levels. They try to claim that only 0.02% of their Community has been permanently banned, but we all know it's a lot more than that.

Now they're saying that their toxicity levels is going down... well, I wonder why? League is slowly losing it's playerbase. People are getting tired of Riot continuing to nerf every unique and fun champion in the ground, then leaving them alone for 2-3 years until a Rework happens. They don't listen to their community like they did back in the early stages of the game, all they care about now is eSports and profit - screw the community - and it all started when Tribunal was removed.

Sad part of it all, is that the Korean playerbase is Riot's biggest profit, that's where all the LCS and eSports profit is coming from, but even Korea is dropping League slowly, there's less pro teams... League is dying, just as every game does at a certain point - it's been running for 7 years, the game has been figured out since 2011 (Mage/Assassin Mid - Bruiser/Tank Top - Bruiser/Tank Jungle - ADC/Support Bot).

How do we know its more?

LuxannaVeritasJul 1, 20161 votes

Not just in the games; I've seen a higher amount of toxic posts on the boards as well. On the BOARDS! It's not even in game!

(I'm not saying this post is toxic, because it's totally not)

Warlord KikosuJul 1, 20161 votes

its a lie... im proof. [slayer-jinx-unamused] summoner 1 summoner 11

PeachsPropertyJul 2, 20161 votes

This is a known fact RIOT refuses to admit. I have posted proof (names and what was said) multipel times on forums always gets removed as they want to protect the toxxic players instead of punish them.

I will keep doing it to (been banned once for doing it but even if 1 person sees the post totally worth it)

And the "dont say anything" to avoid having people be toxxic is false.

I have played a match, which we won iirc, and never said a single thing cept gl at start in /all and after match was over I get reported.... i mean Leagues community is worse than any online game i have ever played (and i have played tons over past 15 years)

Ahri Carries AllJul 2, 20161 votes

To be honest, the matter at hand is not toxicity but rather the toxicity that erupts from new players who get to level 30 too quickly. While I like that Riot is trying to get more people into its ranked system faster, they're only getting more Bronze, Silver, and Gold ELO players. I won't lie that it's easier to smurf now b/c it's easier to get to 30 but most players I come across have very little skill in their roles before entering ranked and most treat player requests like they're flaming even when their intention aren't wrong.

A way to fix toxicity is to extend the amount of time new players have to play before they can get into ranked, maybe a little more than just 16 champions. Maybe require them to play 500-1000 games before entering ranked or something. Riot is letting the inexperienced kids ruin the game and this isn't gonna grow a community in a healthy way.

KING ATTILAJul 2, 20161 votes

But but but DQ gives you the possibility of removing toxicity of you just queue up with 4 other friends!! Friends! Ranked is all about friends now!! Because fuck competitiveness, right? It's not like that's what made the game good to begin with. Here have a sticker.

KeepeJul 6, 20161 votes

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draecinaJul 3, 20161 votes

I just had one of the worst league games toxicity wise. In champ select, I called support and chose Janna. Then someone said "lane with player" and the game started with me as support, and a "support" Pantheon and adc Cait duo. Them and the Renekton top flamed me from the start, and kept telling me to go mid. With JANNA. I refused and did my job as a support. Pantheon stayed bot and rushed in to the enemy and I had to save him multiple times. The whole time they were /all chatting to report me and saying I called mid and changed it at the last second, and that I was trolling despite me shielding and helping them the whole game. Then after giving up first blood Pantheon and Cait both went mid and left me at bot, where I was eventually tower dived trying to protect the tower. At one point Renekton even TP'd away to leave me alone to die. The only non toxic person was Gragas. After the game, I looked them up and found out the Renekton was a premade with them as well. In lobby they continued their flaming and asking the enemy team to report me and telling lies about me, like "Janna picked mid originally but trolled us and locked support" when if you look at my match history, I NEVER choose mid because I am a support main. It baffles me that players like this are allowed to exist. They said they reported me, but I said absolutely nothing rude to them at all, so hopefully they will get punished, but who knows.