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3BallWarsaw4 votes

Words hurt my feelwings

T RexHasTinyArms12 votes

Awe, are you mad that societal standards disapprove of your behavior? Deal with it like a big boy, accept your consequences and move on rather than insulting people for holding you to an agreed upon standard.

Leblancster3 votes

There is already enough stuff to report for, and too many false permabans that this non-human interaction "machine" doles out. We don't need to be able to report for anything else, sorry.

Feel like I should add that people are reporting more and more these days for ANYTHING. I have a previous post where I asked someone to farm so we could win later and he raged. You can't even speak in the game anymore without fear of being reported.

Deep Terror Nami29 votes

The change I am suggesting is not to add functionality, but clarity. You already will be using this report option for those.

Besides, if you aren't actually doing anything wrong then the reports won't do anything. There's no reason to be afraid unless you're toxic.

kile1474 votes

There's no reason to be afraid unless you're toxic.

That sentiment expresses more faith in the system than most people have. Not saying you are wrong, but it's understandable that people could be concerned.

SerBlaise3 votes

I have more faith in the system than I do in your assertion that most people agree with you.

Deep Terror Nami6 votes

The system has a false positive rate of ~1:6000. In the rare case that you are punished due to a mistake, you can submit a ticket and have Riot remove it. The people that complain all day about how it is punishing innocent players are very near 100% toxic players that think it's ok to be so, sometimes simply not understanding why their actions are not acceptable.

kile1472 votes

I agree that the system works, I just feel like the low level fear of being falsely punished that exists within any system is increased when it's a mostly automated one. If people were as confident with the system as the figures would support I feel like there would be fewer cases of toxic players claiming they were falsely punished. Overall the statistical holes in Riot's system may create fewer errors than a human judgement system would, but I have trouble believing that it inspires as much confidence.

I hate my ADC3 votes

You can blame the toxic players for spreading that fear. People wouldn't fear an automated ban system if there wasn't people constantly spreading that fear regarding said system. In a crowd of 100 000 people you can still hear the couple dozen screaming their lungs out when the rest is mostly silent, making you believe it's louder than it really is. Deep Terror Nami is 100% correct when saying that those who complain are most likely toxic players who delude themselves that they aren't. Because it's always easier to put the blame anything but yourself. In this case, it's Riot, their ban system, other players fault for them getting banned when in truth, it is entirely their fault. The very rare edge case of an erroneous ban can be dealt with by Riot support team.

I for one do not fear the automated ban system. I keep a positive attitude in my games and I have never received any ban or even even warning.

entitledplayer1 votes

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You can blame the toxic players for spreading that fear. People wouldn't fear an automated ban system if there wasn't people constantly spreading that fear regarding said system. In a crowd of 100 000 people you can still hear the couple dozen screaming their lungs out when the rest is mostly silent, making you believe it's louder than it really is. Deep Terror Nami is 100% correct when saying that those who complain are most likely toxic players who delude themselves that they aren't. Because it's always easier to put the blame anything but yourself. In this case, it's Riot, their ban system, other players fault for them getting banned when in truth, it is entirely their fault. The very rare edge case of an erroneous ban can be dealt with by Riot support team.

I for one do not fear the automated ban system. I keep a positive attitude in my games and I have never received any ban or even even warning.

You don't need to fear what you fully understand.

Players who aren't flamebaiters and trolls that fear it are players who don't understand how the systems fundamentally work.

I hate my ADC1 votes

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You don't need to fear what you fully understand.

No one can fully understand any complex software. Too many people had their hands on its development or maintenance for one person to know all about it.

Fear is probably too strong a word for this and I should have used the word "discomfort" instead or maybe "confusion". Most people don't know how the ban system work and instead of trying to understand it enough that they can feel safe about it, they listen to the loudest people and jump on the bandwagon. This is just a modern day witch hunt. The ban system is a witch, according to the toxic players, and everyone want to burn it because the toxics players are trying to get rid of it since it's bothering them.

Erdrik1 votes

For me concern about an automated system, is less about its accuracy and more about the ability to react to the rare occasions it does have errors, and as well the slippery slope of complacency that comes with so accurate a system.

I don't think Riot currently has either of these problems. But its always a good idea to be watchful for these things, so I try not to fault anyone for having concerns.

MyTeamIsAwsome1 votes

is 5v5ez tag offensive? played multiple games with it and nobody complained

Urgonnalearn2day2 votes

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is 5v5ez tag offensive? played multiple games with it and nobody complained

I've seen some racist nonsense.

RasCaelestis1 votes

One group that I specifically remember going against had the tag "ISIS" and their full club name spelled out "Islamic State..." Two of the three using the name were the worst form of toxic, which honestly didn't surprise me too much.

"5v5ez" is actually kind of funny. If you say 'gg ez' after the game, that's a different story, but I wouldn't say the club name is bad or needs to be changed.

BeatzBoyFTW14 votes

When you said "False permabans", are you referring to the ones who were lying about it when they posted their toxic chat logs?

lofi n chillhop4 votes

everytime someone speaks about how easy it is to get reported, I like to step in and say that as far as I'm aware I've never been reported ever. I assume I have been reported at least once tho, since people do rage... so I'm pretty sure that if you're getting a lot of reports, enough to become aware of them happening, that probably says more about you than it does about the system.

La Barbotte3 votes

yeah cause ive seen the nazi and KKK club, not really legit if you ask me i dont think rito want their player base to represent those things (even ISIS) common

Velzard of Koz1 votes

I'm afraid KKK may not be reportable. It's one of those things that can mean anything even when we know what it means. With name tag "nazi" you can hardly defend yourself, but KKK "can mean anything". As I said, we all know what they possibly meant and If they don't mean it, it's rather childish, If they mean it, it's illegal, and shouldn't be presented, but from "just" point of view, it's just three letters that can even mean K-loving Kreative Korner If we went to extreme. Summa sumarum: If they'd be prevented from using the tag, I'd be glad, If they weren't, I'd understand the reasoning.

Urgonnalearn2day3 votes

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I'm afraid KKK may not be reportable. It's one of those things that can mean anything even when we know what it means. With name tag "nazi" you can hardly defend yourself, but KKK "can mean anything". As I said, we all know what they possibly meant and If they don't mean it, it's rather childish, If they mean it, it's illegal, and shouldn't be presented, but from "just" point of view, it's just three letters that can even mean K-loving Kreative Korner If we went to extreme. Summa sumarum: If they'd be prevented from using the tag, I'd be glad, If they weren't, I'd understand the reasoning.

Yeah. .. no.

I get what you're saying, but yeah. . No.

3BallWarsaw3 votes

So no one wants an invite to HIV+ ?

The Deckowner2 votes

agree, have seem some pretty offensive oned

FrankerX2 votes

when i made the same thread (just without screenshot) ppl called me a kid that shouldnt cry about everything and i ended with what like 6 downvotes? board community is strange

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Which thread was this?

FrankerX3 votes

a few weeks ago i think? i saw a guy who had the club name "n1ga" and i asked on the boards if i can report this and if yes if we can add it to the options and ppl told me not to be so soft.

Velzard of Koz1 votes

Lol, I recently played against or with a guy with the tag. The problem is those people don't realise it's officially negative meaning because unofficial slang turned it into another way to refer to person. The society at its best.

Urgonnalearn2day2 votes

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Lol, I recently played against or with a guy with the tag. The problem is those people don't realise it's officially negative meaning because unofficial slang turned it into another way to refer to person. The society at its best.

They know what it means. Maybe a 12 yr old doesn't, but college and up they really don't have an excuse.

Velzard of Koz1 votes

Taking the club is not consisting of 12 yr old and below. PS: I wasn't defending them or giving them excuse, more like just being impressed by "diversity" of this society.

Sally KIA Eddy2 votes

or better yet. stop being a pussy. I see bad names all the time, doesn't "offend" me in anyway.

My Sea Cow1 votes

agreed

Ada Wong1 votes

Why is Hail Hydra Censored?

I like comic books and I cant use this, but I can use 187, which is California Penal Code?

Velzard of Koz1 votes

Shouldn't tag be max 5 letters long?

Aeszarck1 votes

The thing is though, the player might not be directly responsible for his or her club name tag. Should people that associate with a leader who made an inappropriate club tag be punished for the club leader's actions?

Like, I don't really like my tag too much (it's not offensive or anything, but it's immature), but I'm not going to insult my friends by leaving the club, and the club is also a cool feature (I like being able to quickly see who in that group of friends is online).

Deep Terror Nami10 votes

Members aren't going to be punished for a Club tag, Riot would change the tag/name. The report would be to notify Riot, not to get a member in trouble.

Also, you can already report for this with the Offensive/Inappropriate Summoner name option. As I mentioned to Leblancster, this isn't adding functionality to the report, it's adding clarity.

Lady Donatella1 votes

Great Idea once again. Hopefully Riot will shed some light on it and add it. May you have a good day <3

billxx1 votes

Examples for what you think is report worthy? For example, there is a club with several youtubers in it ( Gbay99, SunnySplosion) who's tag is TITS.

Velzard of Koz1 votes

Not that I would be offended by it or something, but it falls under category of "inappropriate". It's strange tho to make such report button in game where many woman heroes could be mistaken for strippers. :D

Deep Terror Nami5 votes

KKK, rapeU, niggr. Things that would result in permabans if said in chat. Not simply rude things. This is my personal opinion. If you truly think a name is so bad that it shouldn't be allowed in the game, report it.

billxx1 votes

Yea things like that I'm just worried about people who are offended by the mere mention of the 50s. If you describe their clan tag in the inappropriate name category it might register.

Me actually1 votes

Looking at you, GBay99 Kappapride

Klae1 votes

I agree. Especially since there was a club tag I saw a few weeks back called "n***** lynchers" and I didn't think to report it ._. My bad, because it was pretty offensive.

rtbf2256182411 votes

I think it's offensive but you never know..

LOL Spammer1 votes

I'm not very skilled in doing these edit things is there a possibility you could edit one for me? Contact me through the client if you get this ty :D

Eevee In A Jar1 votes

I'm sure you can simply use that section, write your problem with the club name on the message, then send report. Those checkpoints are mere guidelines to help organize everything for easier view.

Erdrik2 votes

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The change I am suggesting is not to add functionality, but clarity. You already will be using this report option for those.

Joe Dredd1 votes

club name nigeria club tag niger im offended LUL

Eyyy its Sogole1 votes

what if it's not in game? But a friend on your list?

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