Regarding Who Deserves to Get Honored & How People Usually Do It

Black Edge·Dec 5, 2018·1 votes·2,554 views

It happens every so often that you were the one who contributed the most to your team winning the game.

Depending on which way you carried decides if you get honored at all. Of course there are people who can recognize how well you did anyway but most only think about who got the most kills or turrets. This in turn can affect how fast you raise your Honor level. The MVP deserves to have that bonus.

I think there should be some form of info before the honor screen that highlights who was the best at each of major stats and/or who did the best for each team. That way even if you don't pay much attention, you'll know who deserves your honor. I added a pool about it so leave a vote.

The link is for my ARAM game with where I out-healed an absurd amount of damage, took a lot of it, got off tons of good stuns and ults to protect my teammates and secure kills. Also I had the most turret damage. Enemies would run away from me so as not to get clapped. Yet for some reason the one who got the most honors was Twitch and I didn't get a single one. Happens quite a lot.

What are your thoughts?

36 Comments

Kei143Dec 5, 20187 votes

Honors is about behavior, not the MVP.

The 1v9 carry can be toxic as hell, and end up getting reported and punished instead.

You can progress in your honors without people honoring you. Getting honors will slightly move your honorary progress forward.

VreivaiDec 6, 20183 votes

It's supposed to be about behavior, but let's be honest about how it usually works. The better a player performs, the more likely they are to receive honors.

Kei143Dec 6, 20182 votes

only if there is no distinct positive player that made everyone's experience better.

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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It's supposed to be about behavior, but let's be honest about how it usually works. The better a player performs, the more likely they are to receive honors.

And depending on your elo, people can recognize more of the way you contributed to the game. This is especially seen with high-elo streamers.

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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Honors is about behavior, not the MVP.

The 1v9 carry can be toxic as hell, and end up getting reported and punished instead.

You can progress in your honors without people honoring you. Getting honors will slightly move your honorary progress forward.

There be 3 types of honors with leadership/strategy being more prevalent than the other two. So those who don't deserve their honors should still get them because not all people (which is most) understand other types of contribution than dmg? It makes a difference in the long run and it sucks ESPECIALLY for non-poke supports. A good Lux/Brand/Zyra has a higher chance of getting honored (not just ADC) than a good Taric/Alistar.

CharDeeMcDennizDec 5, 20184 votes

honors aren't just about stats...

more often than not I dont even consider stats when i choose

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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honors aren't just about stats...

more often than not I dont even consider stats when i choose

You are a very rare type unless it has something to do with NA. Some times there isn't anything else other than the stats/plays to look at for honoring and it's usually those with most DMG that get them.

CharDeeMcDennizDec 6, 20181 votes

very rare? hardly, have you even read the other responses?

if you can make me actually laugh out loud during a game, that's a surefire honor right there

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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very rare? hardly, have you even read the other responses?

if you can make me actually laugh out loud during a game, that's a surefire honor right there

You do know not a small number of the LoL playerbase comes to boards, right? Those who do are usually different than the average players. Not to talk about their honoring preferences. You are welcome to read my respones to others.

CharDeeMcDennizDec 6, 20181 votes

so you admit that only a small number of players come here, I agree

so if a large majority of your responses from a small sample size are all in the same boat, is that rare?

stats may matter to your honor selection, cool man, go for it. but to say that's the only factor is just asinine and like Umbral said, if stats were all the mattered, why give players a choice at all? just give them automatically to the guy with the biggest numbers

you have your system, and I have mine, neither is right or wrong

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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so you admit that only a small number of players come here, I agree

so if a large majority of your responses from a small sample size are all in the same boat, is that rare?

stats may matter to your honor selection, cool man, go for it. but to say that's the only factor is just asinine and like Umbral said, if stats were all the mattered, why give players a choice at all? just give them automatically to the guy with the biggest numbers

you have your system, and I have mine, neither is right or wrong

It matters to me when it's only thing somebody on my team could get honored for. In games where there is no talking, funny stuff happening or toxicity. There only plays and stats matter if you're going to honor at all. That is where my problem begins and ends.

CharDeeMcDennizDec 6, 20181 votes

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It matters to me

thats all, end of story

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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thats all, end of story

So just because others don't care to post about it/think about it, nothing needs to be changed. To put it in another perspective: As a 5-man team you work together to reach a goal/do a project with each having different roles. You succeed but one person gets 3-4 candies as a reward, you only one. You were the one that did most of the work while the that person reaps the benefits that your work entails or claims it as his own. He wasn't charming or funny but yet he took the opportunity and profited.

In these situations which happen irl, those hard-workers don't have the guts to complain or they accept it while being sad about that.

EVEN if the situation is not rare as you think it, then why for some reason tanks and supports are among those with least honors throughout all the seasons. I'm playing since S3. Not a lot of ranked just promos and I end up in Silver, just this Season I played till Gold. It's WRONG.

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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So just because others don't care to post about it/think about it, nothing needs to be changed. To put it in another perspective: As a 5-man team you work together to reach a goal/do a project with each having different roles. You succeed but one person gets 3-4 candies as a reward, you only one. You were the one that did most of the work while the that person reaps the benefits that your work entails or claims it as his own. He wasn't charming or funny but yet he took the opportunity and profited.

In these situations which happen irl, those hard-workers don't have the guts to complain or they accept it while being sad about that.

EVEN if the situation is not rare as you think it, then why for some reason tanks and supports are among those with least honors throughout all the seasons. I'm playing since S3. Not a lot of ranked just promos and I end up in Silver, just this Season I played till Gold. It's WRONG.

If it's not clear I made this thread bcs I god fed up seeing it game after game. Either me or somebody else in that position, doesn't matter.

CharDeeMcDennizDec 6, 20182 votes

so what exactly do you think needs to be changed? Because from what I can tell all you want is to restrict players options of who they honor.

IMO this whole thing come across as you just thinking you deserve a pat on the back and didnt get it

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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so what exactly do you think needs to be changed? Because from what I can tell all you want is to restrict players options of who they honor.

IMO this whole thing come across as you just thinking you deserve a pat on the back and didnt get it

I never said that I wanted their choice to be restricted. Don't know exactly what would be the best idea which is why there are other people who can give their own ones as the current system is in favour of damage dealers (which is decided by players). I only want them to recognize what tanks and supports did for their team (like high-elo) if they played well and then to honor who they think deserves it. Otherwise they just get ignored.

You come across as the person who wont't get the point no matter how many times you are told. Best thing you can do is play such champions more often until you see the pattern. Not like you would do it anyway so no point really mentioning it.

CharDeeMcDennizDec 6, 20181 votes

YOU dont get the point that honor choice is not, nor should ever be stat dependent

if you did the most dmg, took every tower, got 25 kills, healed the most AND tanked the most. but acted like a dickhead to the rest of your team all game, you'll never get any honors from me

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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YOU dont get the point that honor choice is not, nor should ever be stat dependent

if you did the most dmg, took every tower, got 25 kills, healed the most AND tanked the most. but acted like a dickhead to the rest of your team all game, you'll never get any honors from me

And if I wasn't a dickhead? Because I am never toxic nor do I flame or get cocky but it doesn't matter in the end. Ever got suspended for AFK-ing due to bad connection.

CharDeeMcDennizDec 6, 20181 votes

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And if I wasn't a dickhead?

then you'd have a pretty good chance at an honor, unless someone else was hilarious, or for literally any other reason I feel like.

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Ever got suspended for AFK-ing due to bad connection.

no, I dont play online multiplayer games when I have a poor connection

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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unless someone else was hilarious, or for literally any other reason I feel like.

which is fine if you get how everyone contributed

SumGuy0009Dec 5, 20183 votes

Honors are more about if you had fun playing with a certain individual or if that individual helped carry the team or if that individual helped you bring yourself back in the game when you were struggling , that's why people honor others, stats won't say all that

R107 GamesDec 5, 20182 votes

What? Stats can see who contributed/participated the most. Like amount shielded or healing. Or ward score, assist etc.

I like honoring the person that made the best gameplay decisions, becuase gameplay contributes to my enjoyment.

ButterwoodDec 5, 20181 votes

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What? Stats can see who contributed/participated the most. Like amount shielded or healing. Or ward score, assist etc.

I like honoring the person that made the best gameplay decisions, becuase gameplay contributes to my enjoyment.

I like playing with nice, fun people. That contributes to my enjoyment. Those are the people I send honors and friend requests.

R107 GamesDec 5, 20181 votes

Ok,cool. I'm not telling you how to honor if that's what you're implying. How a teammate deserves honor is subjective.

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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Honors are more about if you had fun playing with a certain individual or if that individual helped carry the team or if that individual helped you bring yourself back in the game when you were struggling , that's why people honor others, stats won't say all that

Honor StayedCool Tilt-proof, chill. Stayed cool is the Honor meant for a teammate who stayed calm and was a provider of a positive playing experience.

Honor GreatShotcalling Leadership, strategy. Great Shotcalling is the Honor meant for a teammate who had good leadership and was able to lead your team to a triumphant win or a gracious defeat.

Honor GG Team player, friendly. GG <3 is the Honor meant for a teammate who was Honor worthy but didn't fit into a neat and tidy box of what they did to earn it.

StriginaDec 6, 20183 votes

Only Brand and Ziggs in your game deserved the honors, tho. No one else fed the poro and those people shouldn't be honored.

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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Only Brand and Ziggs in your game deserved the honors, tho. No one else fed the poro and those people shouldn't be honored.

Can't argue with that hahaha

HotarµDec 5, 20182 votes

I mean, you don't deserve honors just because you may have carried. I usually honor people who keep their cool against flaming teammates or play to win when everyone else has given up. Stats are irrelevant to me most of the time.

I probably wouldn't want an MVP highlight like that because the majority of people who carry end up letting it go to their heads and just become super toxic, in my experience at least.

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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I mean, you don't deserve honors just because you may have carried. I usually honor people who keep their cool against flaming teammates or play to win when everyone else has given up. Stats are irrelevant to me most of the time.

I probably wouldn't want an MVP highlight like that because the majority of people who carry end up letting it go to their heads and just become super toxic, in my experience at least.

Doesn't have to be like that all. Some change is needed so that everyone knows how you contributed since they cannot process it in lower-elos. If it's not MVP title it should be just one thing/stat a person had that made a big difference for their team. Something is certainly needed to even out honors to make it more fair while letting people choose.

ModiDec 5, 20182 votes

I tend to get an honor per game, and my stats are usually pretty shitty. Most of my honors are untiltable, which has nothing to do with how well I play.

Black EdgeDec 6, 20181 votes

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I tend to get an honor per game, and my stats are usually pretty shitty. Most of my honors are untiltable, which has nothing to do with how well I play.

Of course but it's a small factor for honoring on a bigger scale.

Umbral RegentDec 5, 20182 votes

As others have already stated, Honors go to whoever players deemed most enjoyable to play with - not the "MVP" or the guy who had the best stats or whatever.

If you're going to be throwing up stats as a metric for players to determine who they should Honor, you may as well throw away the ability to select who gets Honors and just autoassign them to whoever the game arbitrarily judges as "MVP".

If you want Honors - be honorable. Play well, lead well, and stay level-headed. Just don't expect Honors solely because you did a fuckton of Healing or some other stat like that.

Kiniro EuleeDec 6, 20182 votes

I choose to honor based on how they play and assist as a team or if they out did themselves but were modest, or in general helped in what way they could against the odds.

Black EdgeDec 6, 20182 votes

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I choose to honor based on how they play and assist as a team or if they out did themselves but were modest, or in general helped in what way they could against the odds.

We need more people like you in lower elos :D

OtakuBurritoDec 5, 20181 votes

I receive honors, not because of my stats but because I usually keep my cool. I tell my team up front that I fill and I won't be super awesome at any of them but I'll try my best.

I usually have more to prove since I play Lux jungle and Soraka mid but it's worth it ^^

Black EdgeDec 5, 20181 votes

That's fine and I can respect it though we have 3 different honors. Can't be only those who they found enjoyable.

Don't forget this is the boards and a little number of people actually come here. Those who do usually think differently than others.

In my games most of the time players don't care about somebody being friendly and/or funny except in rare cases. It's usually always the ones who dealt the most damage/wiped the enemy team and I am not exaggerating.

Sure people get to choose who to honor but that doesn't mean they are going to do it fairly as they just don't know/are stupid as hell.

In SR I only ever get honored by my ADC when I play support. If he has half a brain not to give shutdown gold after I carry him, he'll get all the honors! Even though I may have saved the rest of my teammates several times and scared the enemy away or gave them an opening for a fight in our favour.

I say it again, friendliness isn't a factor in my games. It's about who's less toxic and I don't ever take part in it which is why I rarely get honored for it if ever. Tilt-proof:✓, Nice and fun:✓ unless there are griefers which is when I stay silent, Contribute to the game:✓ most of the time and still it's the ones with tons of damage.

Nearly forgot. What I noticed is the nice and fun part is ony looked at when it comes to bot games.