@riot where is the PROOF that toxic people lose more games?

Princess Íncest·Aug 15, 2016·2 votes·1,572 views

Wait it's just more shit you pull out of your ass isn't it? Just like it says people stop being toxic after the first warning or whatever.

17 Comments

KillerPenguinsAug 15, 20164 votes

In my experience, people who are toxic are way more likely to surrender when you could still win, or make their teammates play worse by being rude to them.

Princess ÍncestAug 15, 20162 votes

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In my experience, people who are toxic are way more likely to surrender when you could still win, or make their teammates play worse by being rude to them.

Yeah I'm gonna surrender if their vayne is 10-1 and the score is 20-4

Kei143Aug 15, 20162 votes

you gonna surrender if their vayne is 4/1/1 and the score is 12-8?

Princess ÍncestAug 15, 20162 votes

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you gonna surrender if their vayne is 4/1/1 and the score is 12-8?

it depends. I'd have to be in game and experience it first. just had a game today where I afk'd at 5 minutes. we started 0-8.

archerno1Aug 15, 20162 votes

Why would they have to prove anything to YOU? U are just one of millions, completely irrelevant individual.

Princess ÍncestAug 15, 20161 votes

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Why would they have to prove anything to YOU? U are just one of millions, completely irrelevant individual.

um because they said in those shitty tips that people who aren't toxic win 20% win games or something. stop riding riots dick and believe everything they say.

DrCyanideAug 15, 20161 votes

Are people more likely to rage if they're losing? If so, then there's the basis for your stats. You can argue cause and effect, but that would result in toxic behavior having a lower win rate.

Honestly, this blind distrust for everything Riot says is a little absurd.

Colgate GatorAug 15, 20162 votes

Being fair, we are more likely to lose the moment one of our teammates goes aggro mode.

Jo0oAug 15, 20162 votes

Why make this post? Do you believe the opposite? If so, why?

I haven't seen the evidence, but I can't imagine this NOT being true. Tilting players tend to lose games, and tilt is easily contagious as a result of toxicity. Why WOULDN'T toxic players win fewer games?

Princess ÍncestAug 15, 20162 votes

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Why make this post? Do you believe the opposite? If so, why?

I haven't seen the evidence, but I can't imagine this NOT being true. Tilting players tend to lose games, and tilt is easily contagious as a result of toxicity. Why WOULDN'T toxic players win fewer games?

Why is Tyler 1 not in wood5 then? When he tells everyone to kill themselves?

Even when I "tried" to be nice that never helped

Jo0oAug 15, 20162 votes

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Why is Tyler 1 not in wood5 then? When he tells everyone to kill themselves?

Even when I "tried" to be nice that never helped

Free statistics lesson: A single point of data doesn't negate an entire study. Tyler1 had success playing this game while being toxic, yes. That doesn't mean that the average toxic person enjoys less success than non-toxic individuals.

Being nice may not help you win, but avoiding being toxic certainly can help you not lose.

TrulyBlandAug 15, 20162 votes

A single point of data doesn't negate an entire study.

This.

But also: It doesn't actual even negate anything at all. We don't know if Tyler 1 wouldn't have been rated even higher if he wasn't as toxic. There are a lot of factors that impact your chance to win. Toxicity is one of those factors.

If you put weights around Usain Bolts ankles, he'll still be faster than me. That doesn't mean the weights are not slowing him down.

Kei143Aug 15, 20161 votes

there is a certain baseline for people's skill.

I know no matter how tilted I am, I don't loose to a team of bronze5s, and I'm in bronze 1.

T1 might reach D1 if he wasn't toxic. Yet he's stuck at D5.

Ellis McPickleAug 15, 20162 votes

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Why is Tyler 1 not in wood5 then? When he tells everyone to kill themselves?

Even when I "tried" to be nice that never helped

You know how many more games he would of won if he wasn't toxic?

OleandervineAug 15, 20162 votes

I dunno about you, but every game where I've had toxic players have been horrible. They start bickering with the team, they either get pissed and stop helping allies or feed. They also stoprovide trying when they don't get their way, and then we all get steamrolled. Toxicity does cause loss, and unless you ignore them and the other team members don't instigate them further, you will have a tough time recovering.

GaleWinUnleashedAug 15, 20162 votes

Not believing the one doesn't make the opposite true either. There's definitely no reason to expect that toxicity improves performance.