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Got Permabanned. Just got back from 2 week ban. Had a bad day, shouldn't have played.

Satirical Butler··74 votes·6,914 views

Please don't flame me I already had a bad day. Sorry for the game I ruined. Here's the log:

Game 1 Satirical Butler: this game is over Satirical Butler: 20 cs double kill blue buff Satirical Butler: no exhaust sup Satirical Butler: satisfied? Satirical Butler: ganks on top of is Satirical Butler: it Satirical Butler: yup Satirical Butler: im done w/ this game Satirical Butler: is your internet making you not ward for diana and atuo minions? Satirical Butler: sigh Satirical Butler: 0/4 bot lane Satirical Butler: 7 minutes Satirical Butler: can we ff yet Satirical Butler: sorry can't help they're up 5000 gold and diana bot 23/7 Satirical Butler: 24/7 Satirical Butler: ward this Satirical Butler: janna Satirical Butler: with your buttons Satirical Butler: or that Satirical Butler: perfect Satirical Butler: now she quits Satirical Butler: so she rq Satirical Butler: have fun open bot Satirical Butler: sigh Satirical Butler: you really gonna spam me? Satirical Butler: diana bot Satirical Butler: and they have 5 kills for free off janna Satirical Butler: no Satirical Butler: not even Satirical Butler: bro Satirical Butler: k report janna for afk and olaf abuse Satirical Butler: love this game Satirical Butler: dont bother flaming dude Satirical Butler: ur muted Satirical Butler: 0/5 sup yup i'm garbadge Satirical Butler: you're not the problem Satirical Butler: the blitz and diana and the free kills on janna Satirical Butler: which rhymes apparently Satirical Butler: you mmust be low elo Satirical Butler: high elo opens 9/10 games before 15 min Satirical Butler: fun fucking game Satirical Butler: idk why teams don't try but don't open. like what's our plan?

Yeah I was an ass. Here's what I sent player support:

Hi. So yeah I looked at the log and I was toxic, I'm sorry. I just got off a 2 week ban and I was going to play nicer, but it was a bad idea to play today. I heard from the doctor recently that I have severe tendinitis in my arms, and I'm a professional saxophone player. They told me I'll never get to play again. My grandma's funeral was today, she was a professional clarinetist and is the reason I chose music for my career. I played for her funeral and cried because it was sad and my arms hurt so bad. Tonight I tried to play league to relax but it was a bad idea, I was on a lot of prescription painkillers and not thinking clearly and in a lot of pain, I should have waited 3-4 weeks for my arms to heal like the doctor said. From the logs, I was negative, but probably not toxic enough to ban a normal player, it's just because of my history and recently 2 week ban I think. I'm sorry, I really was going to be nicer but today was the literal worst day of my life and I should have not played on heavy medication and pain and while grieving for my grandma. If you could find the holiday spirit to have sympathy and just issue another 2 week ban instead, I'll have more time to recover from these extenuating circumstances. I hope you have a nice day, at least somebody should have one.

So yeah. Don't play league when you need to be reforming on the worst day of your life while on hydrocodone and super depressed.

Bye guys. Sorry.

Update: Riot support replied. Lot of automated stuff, then someone basically said (paraphrasing) "yeah, that's unfortunate, sorry for you. No exceptions ever though or everyone would expect to be unbanned. have fun playing other games that aren't league."

So yeah. I guess this is it. I might check the boards for a few more days until the post dies but I'll never get to play again. I just recently got all the champions after playing since s3 so I don't think I would have the time to start over. Sorry for ruining any of your games I was in. Also, since you guys asked, I happened to play with a rioter a few days before the ban who worked in the sound department and he wouldn't talk to me when I asked if they need a saxophonist. I know I'm good enough, I've given world premieres at Carnegie Hall in NY City, but yeah, wouldn't answer me.

If anyone knows of any other fun games that are free, please let me know. Musician's don't make a lot.

Peace.

136 Comments

DimirWaterbender47 votes

I mean, I have seen much worse in the way of toxicity. While this was definitely not good, it is still only borderline ban worthy. This is the type of behavior you see on a daily basis. No suicide calls, not the worst harassment I have seen, no hate speech. believe your story and I can only imagine how bad you must have been feeling that day. The reason I believe you is because of the attitude I am getting from this post. Almost all ban posts are toxic people blaming riot for their ban. You are taking the responsibility for something that a lot of people would just be blaming others for.

I hope riot sees this post, and I wish the best of luck to you in your life. I really hope you can find happiness in life regardless of the outcome (unbanned or banned).

EvilDustMan6 votes

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I mean, I have seen much worse in the way of toxicity. While this was definitely not good, it is still only borderline ban worthy. This is the type of behavior you see on a daily basis. No suicide calls, not the worst harassment I have seen, no hate speech. believe your story and I can only imagine how bad you must have been feeling that day. The reason I believe you is because of the attitude I am getting from this post. Almost all ban posts are toxic people blaming riot for their ban. You are taking the responsibility for something that a lot of people would just be blaming others for.

I hope riot sees this post, and I wish the best of luck to you in your life. I really hope you can find happiness in life and that regardless of the outcome (unbanned or banned).

The fact it came RIGHT after a two week ban is what did it.

AeroWaffle24 votes

For what it's worth, the apology is appreciated and refreshing. It takes a lot to give one in your situation. Hope things turn out for the better.

Great Muta1 votes

the apology is appreciated and refreshing.

By who?

This is exactly why we have an RBSC problem here.

How dare you try to take ownership of this situation and imply the apology is to you. That's so cocky and arrogant.

I Q10 votes

The OP sent an apology to the community, not to one single person. This person, is a member of the community.

Great Muta1 votes

Stop passive-aggressively dumping on people and putting yourself above others.

I Q8 votes

I'm not dumping on you, im just stating that he was apologizing to the community.

Skaiserus7 votes

He's being a kid about it. The amount of time I've seen Great Muta in the boards, he's been GREATLY downvoted. This is another example.

P.S. I played a game with ya yesterday. Remember me? The semi-toxic Katarina?

I Q2 votes

I don't normally pay attention to the people I am playing with, but I do remember the name "Cerberus". If you'd like to queue sometime im down.

Skaiserus1 votes

Awesome. I cant really play today though. Give me till Friday.

I Q1 votes

Alright, ill shoot you a FR

PS: Changed my name

AeroWaffle4 votes

Do you really think this is the best time to bring your personal vendetta?

Great Muta1 votes

This isn't a personal vendetta, this is just an extension of the behavior of the RBSC on display.

AeroWaffle5 votes

This board is all about fostering a healthy community

Are your posts actually striving towards that goal like you claimed to have? My post wasn't directed at you but you felt the need to insult me anyway claiming that I was cocky and arrogant.

Astôlfo21 votes

I'm sorry for your loss. I hope your life will get better ^^

Nami in Bush12 votes

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Satirical Butler: high elo opens 9/10 games before 15 min

lmfao

kamikazephyr12 votes

I'm sorry but I don't sympathize with you, as far as your League of Legends ban goes. I think you deserve it, and everyone saying they do worse deserve it even more. This community is nothing less but toxic.

That being said, I'm really sad for the loss if your grandma, my biggest condolences :( Hope the illness goes away soon too so you can do what you do best again.

If you make a second account, or if the perm gets lifted (which I kinda hope it does even though I think you fully deserve it), then it might just be a good idea to mute everyone and pretend chat doesn't even exist, if you're ever in any sort of bad mood again and think you'll low-key flame.

Mystic Shovel8 votes

Toxicity is so stupid. You gotta be like 13 to feel the need to flame your team in chat or be passive aggressive. If you want to win, shut up and do your job, telling someone they did something wrong like this achieves literally less than zero. I don't get how people have problems with this, at the end of the day it is a GAME. Anyone who has been banned/perma banned for whatever reason (unless rito fucked up and accused someone of something they didnt do) is deserved.

Good man for apologizing and as a fellow musician i feel for you, but people who act like this and can't control themselves in the chat are scum and shouldnt have the right to play in an environment that is fundamentally, a game.

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

Thanks, I really needed a laugh.

iTaLenTZ7 votes

Pathetic you can get banned for this.

NightmareAmazoX6 votes

Riot Games, Ask yourself is this person worthy of a permanent account which his worked very hard to get to Platinum? His a professional Saxophone player! You could even hire this person for your music! You must change the way you permanently ban people, Just because he used the word ''F**K'' In chat his worth a ban right now. That's how this system works.

This is 2016 Riot Games. He did not verbally abuse anyone, Instead got abused himself for trying to be a team player and after all the hard things his gone through like a real summoner according to your Summoner's Code. This system is a complete joke.

ModPrandine6 votes

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Riot Games, Ask yourself is this person worthy of a permanent account which his worked very hard to get to Platinum? His a professional Saxophone player! You could even hire this person for your music! You must change the way you permanently ban people, Just because he used the word ''F**K'' In chat his worth a ban right now. That's how this system works.

This is 2016 Riot Games. He did not verbally abuse anyone, Instead got abused himself for trying to be a team player and after all the hard things his gone through like a real summoner according to your Summoner's Code. This system is a complete joke.

Yes this game isn't that bad but keep in mind that:

  1. This wasn't the only game he was valid reported in. AND
  2. He had just gotten off of a 2-week ban and yet still decided to continue to act poorly despite that, hence his punishment.

Also, he didn't get banned for cursing, and retaliation is not an acceptable form of behavior so don't kid yourself there.

To the OP, hopefully you can learn from this to improve yourself for the future.

NightmareAmazoX4 votes

  1. OP Did not show any other chat log except this so your point is invalid, The things that have happened in the past & the 2 week ban is irrelevant.

  2. ''Act poorly'' Clarify this to me.

''Retaliation'' What retaliation?

I'm glad you aren't a judge anywhere in the world. Sheesh.

ModPrandine4 votes

{quoted}

  1. OP Did not show any other chat log except this so your point is invalid, The things that have happened in the past & the 2 week ban is irrelevant.

  2. ''Act poorly'' Clarify this to me.

''Retaliation'' What retaliation?

I'm glad you aren't a judge anywhere in the world. Sheesh.

  1. I know he only showed 1 game out of a potential 3 in his Reform Card, but I'm saying that it takes more than one game under normal circumstances to be punished. Also, the 2-week ban would technically only be irrelevant if he had improved his behavior to the point where he was able to drop down a punishment tier. Because he decided to continue to display poor behavior after receiving a 2-week ban he received the next available punishment, which in this case was a permanent ban.

  2. In this specific game it would be calling for reports, claiming that he was done early on (this gives the impression that he was gonna leave/afk the game) and continuing to add to the negative environment even after he apparently muted his teammates.

  3. By retaliation I mean responding to negativity with negativity. In this case instead of just muting the problem players and focusing on the game he instead chose to contribute to the negative environment himself.

Again this game by itself is not that bad but most likely he received 1-2 other games in his Reform Card that he chose not to post here (i.e. this was not the only game that he was punished for).

Satirical Butler2 votes

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  1. I know he only showed 1 game out of a potential 3 in his Reform Card, but I'm saying that it takes more than one game under normal circumstances to be punished. Also, the 2-week ban would technically only be irrelevant if he had improved his behavior to the point where he was able to drop down a punishment tier. Because he decided to continue to display poor behavior after receiving a 2-week ban he received the next available punishment, which in this case was a permanent ban.

  2. In this specific game it would be calling for reports, claiming that he was done early on (this gives the impression that he was gonna leave/afk the game) and continuing to add to the negative environment even after he apparently muted his teammates.

  3. By retaliation I mean responding to negativity with negativity. In this case instead of just muting the problem players and focusing on the game he instead chose to contribute to the negative environment himself.

Again this game by itself is not that bad but most likely he received 1-2 other games in his Reform Card that he chose not to post here (i.e. this was not the only game that he was punished for).

Hi. Sorry you are frustrated. I posted my whole reform card, it was just this game.

lolouie5 votes

I'm sorry, but if you get perma - banned for that level of toxicity, I can't wait to see what Riot actually does to those who are toxic in forms WAAAAY worse than that.

BoilTheOil5 votes

wait thats it i literally do worse every game

Mirage Seraph5 votes

If anything, I hope support gets back to you. Whether or not you get the ban lifted/reduced, it'd be nice. Probably depends on whether or not this is the -only- game in question and all that jazz. Regardless, it takes some degree of responsibility to own up to your mistakes, so respect for that.

ModUlanopo5 votes

My condolences on your loss. My grandmother, who basically raised me, passed away in 2003 and the loss hasn't grown any less painful in the years since. I hope that you are able to find your way back to your music and that it brings you a measure of peace.

Troll Slaiyer4 votes

i forgive you. its just a game

HazyCloud74 votes

Is that the only game you played? You were passive aggressive but there's nothing in there to warrant a 2 week ban, much less a permanent ban.

If so I hope you get the perma lifted. Sometimes people vent real frustrations through other mediums, and although that doesn't justify bad behavior I can still empathize with you.

Satirical Butler2 votes

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Is that the only game you played? You were passive aggressive but there's nothing in there to warrant a 2 week ban, much less a permanent ban.

If so I hope you get the perma lifted. Sometimes people vent real frustrations through other mediums, and although that doesn't justify bad behavior I can still empathize with you.

I played others but it was the only one on my reform card. I wasn't very positive in the other games either but this was probably my worst one.

Unicky4 votes

Based on what I see, I think perma banning is a really stupid thing to do, but I don't know. I've never really played with you, so I can't really tell how toxic you are. However, the stuff here really isn't that bad. You aren't pushing people to suicide, being racist, sexist, ableist or whatever. You were only really being passive aggressive which is shitty but not permaban shitty.

Old Tyler1 running it down mid and telling people he was gonna fuck their mom with a monkey wrench or whatever, that's permaban worthy. You can't even scorch an ant with this flame and I think you're no worse than any of the garbage I've seen laying around the rift. If this chat log is ban-worthy, then about 80% of the community should be banned, including myself.

BlâckLotus4 votes

Im not saying your ban isnt justified it definetely is but im gonna call out riot for the famous line "the system takes in consideration someone just having one bad day"

Mig891 votes

They've also explaned that that sentiment is for your first ban. Not the day after you get off a two week ban. That'd be like being a kid, getting timeout for not listening, not listening again, and claiming its a one off problem.

Lmao Get Mooned4 votes

Lol, if this is what riot permabans for toxicity than they are pansies.

TakeAJokeFgt4 votes

If this is being toxic I'm satan himself!

9 53 votes

you deserve it

Satirical Butler13 votes

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you deserve it

Okay. Sorry.

President Swa1n3 votes

Please don't appease to these fools, you deserve better.

IA9hRfpP5q3 votes

0/5 support

why are supports supposed to get kills????

Indieast1 votes

Interesting you asked that question. I believe it may be rhetorical but have you noticed many of the posts on here where people say; That's nothing, I'm much worse in all of my games? Really, I don't think a lot of players ever consider playing support, tank, or a lower mage. It's all about them getting huge amounts of kills. There are games where I just roll my eyes when I see everyone wants to be warriors. The game will get boring if it goes on forever but balance isn't so horrible when it makes it more challenging.

BrainDeadSkill2 votes

no one really care what your reasons, if reason is a excuse. i could just use script and blame it on hacker who hack my account :D bye toxic

theArtifacts4 votes

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no one really care what your reasons, if reason is a excuse. i could just use script and blame it on hacker who hack my account :D bye toxic

Reading comprehension on these boards is really taking a hit these days.

yukumari2 votes

Fuck man this actually made me feel for you so much I'm so sorry. I wish there was a way to show riot that what you're typing is true, so they could maybe have some mercy on you :(

Best of wishes man!

Fegone2 votes

I'm torn. On the one hand I think this is absolutely not ban worthy. There is literally chat like this or even worse in every single game I play. If all people who write like this are banned, league would not have any players.

On the other hand, this post stinks after fishing for sympathy. We have no idea whether it's true what you write, that diagnosis you got, your grandma died, hell you might not even know what a saxophone looks like.

So no, there goes the sympathy, because if you play "world premieres" are Carnegie Hall, you ain't some random low-key saxophonist who plays in the local diner after 5pm. So either your story about you performing in Carnegie Hall is b.s., or the story about you not making money is.

Satirical Butler1 votes

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I'm torn. On the one hand I think this is absolutely not ban worthy. There is literally chat like this or even worse in every single game I play. If all people who write like this are banned, league would not have any players.

On the other hand, this post stinks after fishing for sympathy. We have no idea whether it's true what you write, that diagnosis you got, your grandma died, hell you might not even know what a saxophone looks like.

So no, there goes the sympathy, because if you play "world premieres" are Carnegie Hall, you ain't some random low-key saxophonist who plays in the local diner after 5pm. So either your story about you performing in Carnegie Hall is b.s., or the story about you not making money is.

I don't really feel the need to further defend who I am as a person, but your comment was interesting so I'll chat. I have a doctor's note, prescription painkillers, and pictures of me playing at my grandma's funeral in front of her ashes. You don't need my doctor's note or pictures to think I'm truthful, just basic human decency. If you don't though, I really don't care, that's your choice. And no I'm not some "random low-key" saxophonist, I've participated in national and international competitions, yes I played a world premiere in Carnegie (1 time) and I'm about to start grad school in the fall in new york. Doesn't mean I'm rich. The Carnegie trip was funded by donors for commemorating the 10th anniversary of 9/11, not to see how much money we could make. Just because I have a skill I've worked my whole life for and I'm playing at a level with the best in the world does not mean I'm automatically rolling in money. I don't even have my doctorate yet. Also, what's wrong with playing at a local diner? I challenge you to find any musician in the world who won't play at a nice club or diner for food and a paycheck. Name 5 currently playing saxophonists. I guarantee when they were students they would play anywhere they possibly could.

Fegone1 votes

Do you know that 99% of the stuff people say on the internet is bullshit? Statistically speaking, your story is b.s. too. Hence there is the saying: "Pictures or didn't happen"... Anyone can make up sad stories and earn the pity of other people. Now this might sound harsh to you if you in fact are telling the truth, but for every person who tells the truth on the internet, there are 99 who lie. You get my point? I don't want to insult you, I'm just telling you how it is and why I don't believe you.

If you are really among the best of the best in the world, then again, your story stinks. No matter what you are the best of the best in, you will make money off of it. Not saying you'll be a Millionaire, but you will definitely make more than a descent living if you're a world class saxophonist. Unless you don't care about money and don't look into your options, and just enjoy playing. But then don't complain about money.

You challenge me to find any musician who won't play at a diner for food and a paycheck? Kanye West.

There. I won.

Satirical Butler1 votes

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Do you know that 99% of the stuff people say on the internet is bullshit?

Let me try using your (lack of) logic. So...everything you just said is therefore bullshit? How is that "winning," Charlie Sheen? You can keep trolling if you want but I'm not gonna respond. I don't have to patience to explain something to someone who literally uses zero logic.

Fegone1 votes

Of course it is b.s.! Do you think I read the entire Internet and derived that exactly 99% are b.s. ? But it exemplifies my point pretty well. I'm not trolling. What it comes down to is that you got permabanned, and you whined about it. And I pointed out why I don't feel pity for you. You probably did or said horrible things before to already get banned. Kind of as a warning. Well, that was obviously not enough warning for you. Enjoy your permaban. I gtg, I'm needed on the Fields of Justice!

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