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What the Hell am I Supposed to Do

Weathered··58 votes·10,825 views

I know hundreds of people complain about this. I know it happens to everyone. I know its just how people act.

But I seriously have no clue what to do. 50% of my games I am 15/3 or something ridiculous, but my team is just calling each other "retard", "f-cking dum-ss", "feeding son of a -----". I am literally spamming trying to tell people to just play and chill. "Guys we just have to get an inhib and it will balance", "rammus please dont call the adc a retard", "its ok that ahri has been afk for 15 mins, she has internet probs".

I can't do anything. I lose every game I'm carrying because of people just naturally being a dick to each other. I wan't to get to Plat, but not because I want a fancy border or so I can brag to my friends. I just want to play with people who play the game. No one ever plays the game in my elo. They are playing who can burn out their keyboard first.

I'm 4W 3L in promos right now. The KDA's in order are 11/5/9 (W), 20/9/21 (W), 10/2/9 (W), 9/4/12 (W), 5/6/8 (L), 8/6/6 (L), 12/6/12 (L). I wish there was a button to just not do promos. It doesn't even make that much a difference how well I do in my promos, because I will start below where I was anyway.

There needs to be a study done on the effects of online gaming and its correlation to sadism, because it just doesn't stop.

http://imgur.com/qRy6ef6

74 Comments

coeurloyal21 votes

It's a sad situation, unfortunately. The only solution I've found is to play most of my games in as large a premade as possible :/

RiotRiot Whiskies39 votes

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It's a sad situation, unfortunately. The only solution I've found is to play most of my games in as large a premade as possible :/

I've just recently started playing more Rift, and this is my conclusion as well. I now keep a folder in my Friend List of players that I don't know IRL but who I enjoyed interacting with in-game. It's a lot more fun when I am in premades! For me, BM really tends to affect my mood, as I'm sure is the intended consequence, but when I am able to joke about it with others it's much easier for me to shrug it off. And as coeurloyal was saying, it's a great solution to the OP's issue with playing with too many negative players.

Hope you can find a new groove, Emperor SlayerTay6! （´・｀ ）♡

Before people jump in and say that Riot isn't doing enough to prevent this sort of stuff... Yes, superduperideally there would be immediate consequences for those who intentionally create negative gaming experiences for others [and real life Poros for those of us who are super friendly and fun (RITOPLZZZZ!!!)], but that just isn't the case and we're a long way from that, unfortunately. And honest to goodness, those posts I keep seeing about how "Riot doesn't care" and "Riot just wants all ur monehs"... I work here, and I don't get the sense that this is true at all. Many of us play the game ourselves, so we too are affected by these experiences and would love nothing more than to figure out better ways to improve upon the system.

Weathered11 votes

I still love whenever you guys drop by and post. I support Riot, and I don't blame them for the problems with players. They do a helluva lot to help, its just not possible to fix right now. I see a lot more people who are toxic in regular queue opposed to Dynamic (when it was working xD), so I think you guys are in the right direction. Love the "find a new groove" btw ♥

RogueWill2 votes

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I've just recently started playing more Rift, and this is my conclusion as well. I now keep a folder in my Friend List of players that I don't know IRL but who I enjoyed interacting with in-game. It's a lot more fun when I am in premades! For me, BM really tends to affect my mood, as I'm sure is the intended consequence, but when I am able to joke about it with others it's much easier for me to shrug it off. And as coeurloyal was saying, it's a great solution to the OP's issue with playing with too many negative players.

Hope you can find a new groove, Emperor SlayerTay6! （´・｀ ）♡

Before people jump in and say that Riot isn't doing enough to prevent this sort of stuff... Yes, superduperideally there would be immediate consequences for those who intentionally create negative gaming experiences for others [and real life Poros for those of us who are super friendly and fun (RITOPLZZZZ!!!)], but that just isn't the case and we're a long way from that, unfortunately. And honest to goodness, those posts I keep seeing about how "Riot doesn't care" and "Riot just wants all ur monehs"... I work here, and I don't get the sense that this is true at all. Many of us play the game ourselves, so we too are affected by these experiences and would love nothing more than to figure out better ways to improve upon the system.

Riot shoudl get the IP parties more often, it actually forces the players to go into a game (more out of greed but whatever) so people can start playing on groups and ligthen up teh atmosphere

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Agreed, this is supposed to be a team game, working together toward the common goal. Not call of duty where 1 guy can just win the game by running laps.

GigglesO5 votes

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would love nothing more than to figure out better ways to improve upon the system.

Give LP bonuses for getting an A or S (5-10LP), and give LP consequences for C or D- (5-10LP) It would move good players/troll players to their appropriate spot more quickly. It would also entice people to play better. Personally, I think the main issue is that players aren't getting to their correct MMR, because individual performance is currently under rated. I could feed 0/20, but as long as we win I get the same LP as everyone else...

SnowFall1 votes

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Give LP bonuses for getting an A or S (5-10LP), and give LP consequences for C or D- (5-10LP) It would move good players/troll players to their appropriate spot more quickly. It would also entice people to play better. Personally, I think the main issue is that players aren't getting to their correct MMR, because individual performance is currently under rated. I could feed 0/20, but as long as we win I get the same LP as everyone else...

This. Too bad they probably won't listen to you. I would upvote you a hundred times if I could.

Johnaldinho10173 votes

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This. Too bad they probably won't listen to you. I would upvote you a hundred times if I could.

If this was the case people would find ways to misuse the system to get an A or s every time sure i mean it takes work to do but if you want your support waiting just to steal all the kills and leaving you to die then yeah that system would work but it's just not very logical to set it up that way. Yes I agree there should be a better way to do it but as of now the only way for riot to find out if someone played good and deserves extra lp for that game would be for them to spectate every game and watch for individual performance. For example sure a 5/4/20 sona looks better then a 0/6/17 Leona but if Leona landed all her stuff in team fights her impact could've been much greater despite her score being worse. That's just one example of how it could fail it's just not very practical at the current state but yes something needs to be done

coeurloyal1 votes

That definitely isn't the answer, imo. Doing that makes picking a champion you don't normally play a punishing decision, which means players are less inclined to pick for their team and more inclined to insta-lock the champs they want--which is bad for team health and leads to more toxic behavior.

I can understand wanting to incentivize good play, but I think the new mastery system is already going to do just that. If getting free access to almost all of the paid content in the game isn't enough incentive to make people want to play less trolly, then I don't know what else could be offered to fix it. Punishing a bad game isn't really the right way to go about it, though. That'll just make people saltier.

GigglesO1 votes

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That definitely isn't the answer, imo. Doing that makes picking a champion you don't normally play a punishing decision, which means players are less inclined to pick for their team and more inclined to insta-lock the champs they want--which is bad for team health and leads to more toxic behavior.

Too bad I've gotten S rank on soraka, and other supports before... It isn't impossible by any means, and sometimes it is better to actually pick a champ you know, rather than a champion for your team... It does nothing to pick a champ for your team, if you can't play that champion.

coeurloyal1 votes

I'm not going to argue that it's not sometimes better to pick a champion that you know rather than working with the comp, but you can't pigeonhole players into a small champion pool. That works great in lower elo play, but players need to have a fair bit of flexibility as they move into higher tiers. Champion pools need to grow at some point, and it's better to learn those champions in low elo than it is in the upper tiers.

Supreme Senpai691 votes

That would screw over those who play support, something that's already the least popular role. "What's that, you sacrificed yourself so your team could escape? You didn't steal any kills? Well, now we're taking away your LP."

Goosetard3 votes

Institute a positive behavior queue parameter. Make it so that, if I have an exceptionally low history of reports or frequent "friendly" honors, I get paired with similar players. Make it a non-required preference for matchmaking so that it won't affect queue times. Bam. How hard is that? It's a powerful incentive, too--wanna escape the trolls and assholes? Be a nice guy.

Stars Shaper1 votes

It's really unfortunate when in a team based game the only way to avoid heavy toxic environments is to build the safety yard known as "Premade". Fortunally I had a lot of games where I found ppl who didn't rage etc (and in which I didn't rage either), but I got to admit that the majority of players seem to be doing that purposely to piss off other players.

Sahn Uzal1 votes

Real life Poro :O RITOPLZZZZ summoner 31

BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

I don't have friends.

DTi Rebecca1 votes

I don't see this as a viable solution at all. I like just randomly queueing with random people and playing League. I don't want to know people or have an affiliation with them.

But at the same time, I expect some level of decency. League feels like a ghetto slum where everyone's a cut throat who's out to ruin your day.

My issue is that the tribunal is down and no player moderation is happening.

Riot needs to grow a pair of testicles and be strict. Stop focusing purely on player volume and pull out the weeds that are ruining League. It's literally something like 1 in 10 people that ruin League games, maybe less. That's 10%. Cut that and you still have MOST of the community.

And I know best, because I'm a toxic, troll scum bag for some games. I ruin tons of people's day, but I've never been banned. I got a warning once... but that was it.

Faith in humanity, lost.

Railios1 votes

{quoted}

I've just recently started playing more Rift, and this is my conclusion as well. I now keep a folder in my Friend List of players that I don't know IRL but who I enjoyed interacting with in-game. It's a lot more fun when I am in premades! For me, BM really tends to affect my mood, as I'm sure is the intended consequence, but when I am able to joke about it with others it's much easier for me to shrug it off. And as coeurloyal was saying, it's a great solution to the OP's issue with playing with too many negative players.

Hope you can find a new groove, Emperor SlayerTay6! （´・｀ ）♡

Before people jump in and say that Riot isn't doing enough to prevent this sort of stuff... Yes, superduperideally there would be immediate consequences for those who intentionally create negative gaming experiences for others [and real life Poros for those of us who are super friendly and fun (RITOPLZZZZ!!!)], but that just isn't the case and we're a long way from that, unfortunately. And honest to goodness, those posts I keep seeing about how "Riot doesn't care" and "Riot just wants all ur monehs"... I work here, and I don't get the sense that this is true at all. Many of us play the game ourselves, so we too are affected by these experiences and would love nothing more than to figure out better ways to improve upon the system.

[IMG]http://i68.tinypic.com/x7rpf.jpg[/IMG] How can we believe you care when games are like this? Constant trolls supporting trolls, and punishing hard workers. You used to speak directly with us and not down to us. In beta everyone loved you guys and people helped one another. Even if it was with little negative comments: "Noob build armor." Now riot helps nobody and the player base hates everyone that isn't queued with them. The premades get the idea that it's their right as majority to harass, troll, and otherwise act like bigots. Premades that harass should face exponentially higher punishments and not be allowed to report. Either play solo and report a troll or play with your friends and act right because you have no power of "more reports" and over anyone else. If the premades were forced to a higher standard instead of held to a lower one with greater power games would be less toxic.

Mama Soraka1 votes

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Either play solo and report a troll or play with your friends and act right because you have no power of "more reports" and over anyone else. If the premades were forced to a higher standard instead of held to a lower one with greater power games would be less toxic.

Never in the entire history of LoL has more reports in a single match meant anything. The system in place only cares how many distinct games you are reported in. You are creating a scenario in which you are the victim that has no basis in reality.

EasyFoon2 votes

'immediate consequences' [slayer-jinx-wink] http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/n7ccyc79-riot-this-feeder-is-ruining-ranked

GRVet3ran0sS1 votes

Well its so easy to get through these elos i played solo only and in one year playing League i went to diamond but now you guys banned my main accont and you destroyed my dream of becoming a pro player...i was going to reach challenger in the next couple months but now i will just have to make a new account level it up and reach low diamond at most.Thanks(and yeah it was undeserved since it skipped my 14days ban while not being extremely toxic)

53872273_DEL1 votes

How long do you think League will last given the problems of the economy? And does Riot intend to make another game?

TrickMagnet3 votes

"I wan't to get to Plat, but not because I want a fancy border or so I can brag to my friends. I just want to play with people who play the game. No one ever plays the game in my elo. They are playing who can burn out their keyboard first. "

if this is what you want, then the division you want to get into least is plat. fair warning man

Weathered2 votes

Ever ELO has its personality, but at least (from what I know) there aren't as many high, drunk, afk, mcdonalds wifi, playing using their dogs paws people in plat.

Choaru1 votes

Tbh according to my diamond friend, silver is the best elo to be in. Mostly because when you get to higher elos there tends to be a lot of people who think they are "da bomb" (ofc it happens in other elos as well). And yes I know silver isn't that high, but from my experience in the silver elo for about a half a year I actually like it. But I do want to climb to higher elos as well..but I'm afraid I'll just get flamed because I play jungle, and apparently everything is the junglers fault.... ;-;

TrickMagnet2 votes

diamond is usually the chillest division from my experiences so far. gold is usually fairly tame too. silver is a toxic hellhole since it's usually just a bunch of people striving for gold and getting upset when they can't make the cut, and platinum is somehow far worse since it's the same story in going for diamond

bronze is anyone's guess just because the skill variance is so huge

Zyvux1 votes

Half of bronze 4-1 are very similar to silver, in that they are toxic af and think they are better than what they currently are, the other half are newly reached level 30s that are just starting out in ranked. Bronze 5 is actually probably the chillest division, since the people there have 0 clue what they are doing and for the most part dont even care a bit about ranked.

Xietnin3 votes

I do the following: Tell everyone to relax and take a deep breath Scold anyone for picking on their teammates Give them something better to think about Eventually recede and ignore them if they are too emotionally driven

Sammystorm2 votes

It gets worse higher up. People flame for silly reasons at all elos.

Sorion2 votes

I always find a way to turn my teammates's attention back to the enemy team. It is always preferable to have your toxic teammates being toxic and rude to the enemy team than to yourself or your other teammates. First of all, this distracts the enemy team, and reduces their concentration. Second of all, the enemy team might become tilted/upset when a toxic enemy is killing them/or taunting them with they die.

Some people can't be cured from being toxic. They can however, have their toxicity redirected to alleviate the problem of a toxic person on your team in the first place.

It's not pretty, but get them to flame at your opponent instead.

Çhåryzård2 votes

Last season was my first time every trying out ranked and not having done it before, I was really surprised by the amount of toxic players. So much more than in normals. I had at least one toxic player every other game. The worst was an ashe I was supporting who first of all, played really bad. And second, would sit there typing in chat about how we all suck and that would give the enemy Blitz free grabs.

She's stand there...to tell us we suck...and then give the Blitz a free grab and die.

I was duo'ing with my bf who was jg at the time and the ashe kept going off on him about how he didn't gank. Problem was, both me and him told her she was pushing up too far. She was always up to their turret and wouldn't let them push to get any ganks from my bf.

One of the worst people I've played with. I reported her after the game and turns out my report got her punished! That made me so happy >3<

But yea, there are so many bad people in ranked. I'm in Silver II though so I assume it might be a bit better in the higher ranks since those players generally have more of an idea on how to work as a team. Aiming to get to at least Gold V this season..hopefully

53872273_DEL1 votes

Good Luck with your season goal.

Çhåryzård1 votes

Ty! :D

MrSirBossMan2 votes

My question is why do people get reported and banned in game for offensive language but not on the boards for it?

Samus721 votes

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My question is why do people get reported and banned in game for offensive language but not on the boards for it?

Who says they don't?

MrSirBossMan2 votes

Well the fact that riot doesn't approve of people using vulgar words to insult others in game yet several rioters have viewed this post and don't care about the fact that the OP used a vulgar word for the male genatalia to refer to their fellow players. Shows how inconsisten riots system and rules are.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

well im mostly a support main so im fucked since i cant just solo carry i cant even solo carry as soraka with how bad the game goes i lost like 4 games and won 3 so im pretty much Garen-teed to be sent to silver 5 or god help me....**bronze **

Johnaldinho10171 votes

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well im mostly a support main so im fucked since i cant just solo carry i cant even solo carry as soraka with how bad the game goes i lost like 4 games and won 3 so im pretty much Garen-teed to be sent to silver 5 or god help me....**bronze **

Sorry to tell you you'll be bronze I was gold five last season went 7-3 and got silver five My friend was silver 1 went 8/2 got placed bronze 1

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

yah i lost 6 matches but thankfully i got placed in silver 5 but i might as well be placed in bronze since that's all silver 5 is

53872273_DEL1 votes

5-5 in ranked and still bronze 5. I was at least expecting bronze. but not that fucking low. But, all except 1 game. i did good, I helped, I tried to carry. But, we would get so close to winning and we would just lose composure. 5 games we lost composure. Pretty fucking stupid since its called "SOLO" Queue and you have to win and you can get fucking carried hard. i dont understand rito.. Ur rank system is garbage. Like even Challenger players if they won all 10 they got Plat 1! GG GUYS!

Weathered1 votes

It's called a rank reset. You will always be placed below where you were. Its so that you have an mmr much higher than your rank, so you climb hella fast. The challenger players with a master teir mmr in plat gain a ton of LP per win. So if you are good enough, you climb like crazy.

Çhåryzård1 votes

i feel like thats a problem though...it kinda messes with other player's games who are trying to climb and have much less 'skill' than you do.

I was told that the system uses your 10 games and where you were last season to place you around that rank but idk

ROG Kayle Bot1 votes

play a different game is my suggestion. and dont tell them to chill or to calm down or they will end up reporting you. used to happen to me a lot and now i just smurf when im bored or play other games. i play about 1 league game per week now.

MrWasjig1 votes

Even better solution to everything that's being suggested, stop playing the game. Then it can be out of our lives forever and won't have to put up with the insipid players that populate it.

EasyFoon1 votes

u dunno even know how to carry*[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]*

JinxGoesBoom1 votes

I'm sorry to say it's no better in plat. I reached plat 1 last season, almost promoted to diamond, and almost never had a game without toxicity. I had a game we won 4v5 followed by 6 losses because my team was too busy screaming at each other.

Divine Hymn1 votes

There is a lot of toxicity. I end up reporting someone in probably 1/3 - 1/2 of my games. All of my reports are valid but I am afraid I do it so much they will stop being read or something.

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