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Why is out-of-match harassment allowed, especially DOX threats?

Tribbles Foxfolk··4 votes·1,514 views

I've recently been threatened with a DOXing by an enemy that my team stomped (will link match as soon as available). While I don't ACTUALLY believe this threat, it does raise a new concern: Why are people allowed to harass you freely through the in-client out-of-match chat and receive no punishment? I find this kind of mind-boggling that the current system is so strict on how you're allowed to speak to people in-game (I've tried to watch my attitude recently), yet someone that adds you post-game just to throw a tantrum (they don't even have to be successfully added) and be incredibly toxic and spiteful.

Match: My second-most recent Twisted Treeline match as Sion. (Match History is being finnicky, so I'll replace this as soon as I can get it to update.) Player: Yorick (Name withheld) Reported for: Negative Attitude/Unsportsmansly Conduct. Reason: Harassment in the post-game and out-of-match chats. Threatening with a DOX attack. (DDoS and DOX are different) Opinion on Punishment: Temporary or permanent revocation of out-of-match chat service. Temporary revocation of in-match chat service.

I would appreciate someone from Riot to do 2 things: 1) look into this case and investigate this player, and 2) please do something about out-of-match harassment. Please treat it as serious as you would in-game harassment.

I will be sending this in a Support Ticket as well, as I feel this is important. Riot has a great chance to enforce their stance on harassment.

15 Comments

Firu3 votes

It's not allowed. Just make sure you submit the ticket with any screenshots you may have

Tribbles Foxfolk2 votes

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It's not allowed. Just make sure you submit the ticket with any screenshots you may have

I already have. It sickens me that someone actually thinks that posting real information about a person is fine. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's ILLEGAL under the categories of cyber-bullying, harassment, stalking, cyber-stalking, and threats against a person(s).

I don't exactly want to bring this to the police yet because A) it's low-tech country around here, so cyber-crime isn't probably on their radar, and B) I might be overreacting to an empty threat made by an angry player off of their medication(s).

I do believe it's imperative that Riot does something about this.

Nami in Bush1 votes

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It's not allowed. Just make sure you submit the ticket with any screenshots you may have

I can legit edit a screenshot and make it look like whatever I want it to say.

AJStarhiker1 votes

Send the ticket to Riot. Just because it might be an empty threat, Riot has better tools to find out--- including any other reports filed against that player.

There's been enough problems from actual doxing that even an empty threat should be reported.

Just know that name-and-shame (posting a player's name in relation to a real or perceived offense) is against board rules, so pleaset don't post screenshots unless you've edited out the names. The unedited screanshot should be included in your ticket.

Tribbles Foxfolk1 votes

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Send the ticket to Riot. Just because it might be an empty threat, Riot has better tools to find out--- including any other reports filed against that player.

There's been enough problems from actual doxing that even an empty threat should be reported.

Just know that name-and-shame (posting a player's name in relation to a real or perceived offense) is against board rules, so pleaset don't post screenshots unless you've edited out the names. The unedited screanshot should be included in your ticket.

I've already sent Riot a ticket. I'm going to keep it open until I get a reply that they're gonna pass it on to the PB&M team.

Don't worry about name-and-shame, I censored his name out of my post. ("Name Withheld" because I know how picky mods are)

AJStarhiker1 votes

The ticket process is usually a autoreply saying they'll forward it to the correct department, then a follow-up email letting you know they'll investigate, but can't tell you what, if any, actions are taken.

Strawberrycocoa1 votes

Is it really true that Riot has no visibility of the pre and post game lobby chats? I always assumed they CAN see it but keep that a secret so idiots continue acting dumb under the illusion of safety.

1 800 MID LANE1 votes

No. They can see them. It is, however, much faster for them if you leave a comment with the report saying it's in the pre/post lobbies. I'm not really sure how the comments are handled. That's just information I'm passing on from DeepTerror.

Strawberrycocoa1 votes

That's good to know. I sometimes see jackasses gloating that lobby trolling can't be punished. XD

aj502 Oneill1 votes

What's a DOX?

Flaming Meat1 votes

Basically an empty threat, but it means to release personal info to the public, like address, phone number, full name, ect.

aj502 Oneill1 votes

Oh...Never had one in this game, but had it way back in Diablo 2 days....

That's pretty much illegal tho, ain't it? Insta ban imo, even if an empty threat..

Wiggle Dat Butt1 votes

You had to accept their friend request, you probably tried to rub it in his face about the loss and then when he gave you the business... you want to report.

Tribbles Foxfolk1 votes

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You had to accept their friend request, you probably tried to rub it in his face about the loss and then when he gave you the business... you want to report.

Just so I understand your way of thinking: This player was salty all game, insulting the winning team as "a bunch of tryhard %%%gots" over and over, both in-game and post-game. I tell him "You would be complaining even if we beat you with the worst champs on the tierlist," and he leaves the lobby. He adds me, for an assumed temper tantrum. I accept because it's kind of amusing that someone goes out of their way to yell at you over a game of League.

BECAUSE I accepted that friend request, by your logic, I deserve a DOX threat (even if it is fake, it's still illegal, I think)? I wasn't even gloating, I was just telling him the truth. ("You would be complaining even if we beat you with the worst champs on the tierlist.")

I'm sorry, but your sense of justice is not justice at all. It's vigilantism (which, again, I'm pretty sure is illegal) and it's a very real attempt at getting someone hurt/killed/arrested/stalked/emotionally damaged to the point of committing suicide (WHICH IS VERY REAL)...OVER A GAME. A GAME IN WHICH YOU LOSE NOTHING IF YOU LOSE AND GAIN NOTHING IF YOU WIN. In fact, you still get IP and Mastery Points for losing. All you don't get is First Win of the Day, and barely anybody cares about that.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Lol

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