The game is not reliable in banning all toxicity.

StickyOctopi··2 votes·677 views

The third game I decided to play on this account after being banned on my other account, a player on the enemy team was verbally abusing through all chat. Saying rekt after every time someone died in /all chat even if it wasn't him getting the kill. For example, if our adc died bot lane, he'd be toxic in all chat from top lane. Then after I went top and killed him sevreal times, he decides to say. "It doesn't really matter what I do, game is secured anyways" "ggez" "ez game" "rekt" "You guys can't do anything lololol" etc.. The game ends, them winning because they were 3+ man premade. In post game chat, first thing's said are "ez game" "ggez" and more. why is this okay.

My issue with this is that I was reported and banned for arguably less, and so were other players. Are we banning all toxicity, or only the ones people gang up on and multireport? Or do people get away with saying this and evading bans? People can be toxic and not get banned? Then why am i banned?

Why isn't the amumu I played against in my initial banning not banned for verbal abuse/toxicity? He even spoke to everyone in the game asking them to report me,and probably 10 more lines of dialogue trying to get everyone to do so. And they agreed, I got multiman reported and was banned immediately.

Or boards, since I know how you work, Proceed to downvote the post and somehow try to rationalize this one to me. Are you going to try to justify this brand of toxicity and somehow claim that it's okay while simultaneously banning players for it?

I've also seen so many people here say that "asking for reports is a bannable offense in itself" That's exactly what happened when I was banned. My opponent remains unbanned after trashtalking as bad as me, then asking for group reports and succeeding in getting his team to. And now, in one of my first games back there's a player doing the same thing I got banned for in the first place, but isn't banned. I reported, no ban.

I made sure not to be toxic in my game. Because I will not be banned again

But in all honesty, how can you give me a figure saying "you're among the top .006% of players to be toxic enough to be banned" when I see=or worse than what I said in more than 1/3 of my games unprompted by me in allchat.

So you ban some players for being toxic? Is it like profiling, or if players convince other players to report alongside them, that's okay and the strategy works?

Or is this just a hypocritical board in it's entirety, willing to downvote and try to argue against logic while twisting it's own words to match multiple viewpoints?

If you're going to ban me and many other players for it, ban all of it. Don't pick ".006% of players" to randomly ban, it is far more than that.

Edit: So essentially, riot allows players to be toxic, as long as they make sure to not swear in them! It's like, you can steal a car and not go to jail as long as you don't call someone retarded while doing it. But then allow the words to be said in the first place, and have a chat filter. Then claim the issue is toxicity, because it obviously is not, if so many players are getting away with it. ".006%" needs to be a meme.

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ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

Because people don't report, thinking it doesn't work, when it quite clearly does.

This then makes toxicity more apparent, causing the toxic individuals to be more bold, then when they are finally caught, they come here and complain. On the flip side, you have the people who don't report, and then come and complain that the game is super toxic, which is entirely on us as players to fix.

StickyOctopi1 votes

I reported both times, yet I remain the only one banned. I remember a time way before I got banned. When a player was spamming "kill yourself" over and over in chat to me. It was so bad I even sent in a support ticket. I waited to see if they'd get banned, but no. A week later, they were still spamming ranked on na.op.gg. I'm failing to see consistency. Because I certainly reported, and sent in screenshot's that I wish I still had to show you. With no ban. But amumu get's to get people to gang up and report me, then i'm banned immediately and boards tells me I deserve it. So why don't they deserve it too?

Kei1431 votes

you.. still don't know how the report system works do you..

guess you didn't read through the consilidated post I gave you.

MasterSomething1 votes

It's not random. It's time. Riot wants people to reform before they ban them.

StickyOctopi1 votes

I was definitely reformed after my 14 day ban that I got without a chat restrict. That was an isolated incident that only happened one time. Then I got banned for being reported after mild toxicity. People told me I deserved it, since I had already been banned.

Okay I got it. It's like riot saying okay you can steal a car and go to jail for 14 days, then after that if you so much as steal some socks you go to prison for life. so this person goes to jail for the rest of their life for stealing socks, due to his singular prior offense. Everyone else who has never stolen a car is allowed to steal $50,000 in socks and it be okay. In fact, they will never go to prison simply because they stole socks and not a car. Even though they made the conscious decision to steal multiple times, and more value than the car, they do not go to jail because of the weird court system in place

Basically just skirt the system and be toxic and it's okay. Do it as much as you want and riot won't ban ya for it. They don't even ban all the players who tell others to kill themselves! they ban kids for saying ggez! And then they don't even ban anyone else who says it! Rito games for president!

Zerfallen1 votes

Edit: So essentially, riot allows players to be toxic, as long as they make sure to not swear in them! It's like, you can steal a car and not go to jail as long as you don't call someone retarded while doing it. But then allow the words to be said in the first place, and have a chat filter. Then claim the issue is toxicity, because it obviously is not, if so many players are getting away with it. ".006%" needs to be a meme.

You can swear all you want in-game. Fucking hell, I do it all the damned time.

What you cannot do is swear at or harass/threaten other players. "You fucking suck at League. Uninstall and kys!11!!!"

Also, hate speech is zero tolerance. Just don't do it.

It isn't hard to not be a bigoted racist.

StickyOctopi1 votes

But you can say, "you're bad at league, uninstall." "ggez" "such an easy game. no challenge" "NIce ult lolololololol rekt" "ff?" "you're wasting your time, just surrender" "I can feed if I want, the games already won" "how're we in the same division?" "you're not good At this game at all" "why'd you play adc" "Never play x role or x champion again" "you're worthless" etc is all okay to say in the eyes of riot. Just don't and "fucking" into any of it to avoid our ban system.

I just want to understand the logic. that's it really.

Zerfallen1 votes

Most of that is negative and a bit toxic.

Report them. They can still receive punishment for toxicity without having cursed.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

The reason it seems like that is because most toxicity isn't from people who arent regularly toxic, buy rather having an occasional bad day. Punishments are mostly for patterns of behavior, not just single incidents.

Since we only see most people for one game we tend to assume that however they are in that game is how they are, but that just isn't usually the case.

StickyOctopi1 votes

I'm not regularly toxic either, but I got banned.

Sariat11 votes

Does the tribunal even exist anymore? I tried to sign up (nothing would make me feel better than to spend an evening condemning toxic players) but the Tribunal website gives 404 error.

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

Tribunal has been down for many months. There's some sort of update planned, but it'll probably be a while.

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

it works to some degree. I been reporting aton of people as of late (all legit reports) and every single one of those players that either flamed or threatin to report someone all the way to threating someones life, racist, and even homophobic and I wait to see such and such player has been punished aannnnnnd nothing they all keep playing the game. Sometimes I don't even think its worth reporting these people anymore since it rarely takes action on punishing them. I feel the system say meh he was racist and homophobic... let see Ahh I got it boys will boys let him keep playing.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

enemy team was verbally abusing through all chat. Saying rekt after every time someone died in /all chat

I'm sorry, but are you THAT fragile? It's fine if you are and all...but uh...why didn't you mute?

First off, this is simple trash talk. I'm not sure why you think it should be punishable anyway. Secondly, it obviously didn't bug you bad enough if you didn't mute, so I'm not sure why you're bring it up here. Trying to circle jerk for "omg rito they toxic" upvotes?

StickyOctopi1 votes

What you are saying is exactly what my point is. You just 100% agreed with everything I said. I got banned for saying rekt, and ggez. I asked why didn't they mute, and I also didn't think I should have been banned for it, because it was just trashtalk.

So when I ask why I got banned for something, boards says I deserve it. But when I ask why someone else doesn't get banned they sya "This is simple trash talk" "I'm not sure why you think it should be punishable anyway" Which is exactly what I said when I got banned. But they still banned me, now there are people on boards saying that it shouldn't be bannable?

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

So when I ask why I got banned for something, boards says I deserve it. But when I ask why someone else doesn't get banned they sya "This is simple trash talk"

I do not see your chat logs. So, no. I am not saying that in the slightest. If your chat logs only included saying things like "rekt" I wouldn't think the ban was justified, but then again you wouldn't be banned because I'm probably the biggest shit talker in League and haven't been punished. You were most likely harassing players by rito's definition.

3TWarrior1 votes

600,000 is still a lot of toxic players, but idk

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