Honestly, banning someone's pick is just rude and you shouldn't do it.

AgeOfTheMage··37 votes·1,475 views

cmon, a prime example is shaclone, he's a shaco otp and people always ban shaco when he's in a game just to mess with him, it should be reportable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGC5N_k_z1c

heres one example

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Jo0o11 votes

I continue to say that banning one's own teammate is done much more commonly for troll value or by mistake than any real strategic reason.

LegendmakerGX1 votes

For me banning Yasuo is a strategic reason and it ain't because I don't mind enemy getting him it's because Yasou is the definition of a win or instantly lose lane champion if the player either suck or do good and trust me 80% of Yasou player suck.

Jo0o5 votes

Okay, but if I'm hypothetically a Yasuo main and highly skilled with him, and you just randomly ban him out from under me... what the hell am I supposed to make of that?

Clementine1 votes

I never ban a teammates intent pick, unless it's yas/riven/lee sin is when I look them up. If they average like 8 deaths a game and 5 kills that's when I ban it. In ranked at least, could care less about what other people play in normals.

Jo0o2 votes

I'm still not super comfortable with people policing teammates, and your view of how to do it is only one of many.

Clementine2 votes

Yeah I know how you feel, but if someone is picking a champ that they do poorly on 4/5 times I'm trying to do the rest of the team a favour lol

Jo0o1 votes

But the alternative is tilting your teammate! Possibly enough to even provoke them to outright troll!

Serious question: What's your success rate in using your ban to stop teammates from playing champs they don't have a positive history with?

Clementine1 votes

Pretty decent actually. With the new 10 ban system, I've seen a single Yasuo since so that's not much of a prob. I tend to ask them first if they're actually playing yas/riven/lee though. If they hover ez/vayne I ban that instantly tho

IcyPepper1 votes

The only strategic value of banning a champion someone else wants to pick if it's a highly contested champion on top of your teammate being a lower pick (so the odds of them getting the champion is lower).

In which case, I'd probably say something. Switching is always a possibility, and sometimes they'll agree and choose something else.

Probably more applicable for FotM champions rather than semi-popular champions your teammate legitimately mains.

Without asking, if it's not a highly contested champion, and/or your teammate is a higher pick then it's most definitely a dick move. Might still be a dick move even for the latter two if you didn't ask first.

Jo0o1 votes

I understand that logic in theory, but surely it's contingent on the champ having a truly astronomical pick rate?

I mean, Lee Sin is the #1 picked jungler right now, but with "only" a pick rate of 28.71%. That's quite high, but that still means more games are played without Lee than WITH Lee, right? So, by that logic, if your teammate wants him, they have better than even odds of getting him, even at last pick.

If you're terrified of the pick on the other team then it's a way to hedge your bet, but it's also directly antagonistic to your teammate. I don't think that's worthwhile.

IcyPepper1 votes

The logic is understandable in theory, but not in practice right now. There are times there are highly contested picks, but atm the game is pretty stable in that regard.

It's stuff like cinderhulk-release Sejuani that one would be wary. Highly situational.

Aeszarck8 votes

I don't care what stereotypes there are about Yasuo/Riven/Vayne/etc. players, I'm not going to ban my teammate's intended pick because of some stupid assumption that he or she is going to feed with that Champion or be toxic. I'd rather use a ban to take out a Champion I don't want to see my opponents playing than use a ban to piss off my teammate and make him or her play a Champion he or she isn't good at.

Mira Arya Enthe2 votes

Plus if they were going to feed on Yasuo. How likely is it that they will not tilt and feed on Fiora who they have no experience on.

General Esdeath 7 votes

In Shaclone's case it's because people hate him, he's toxic even with Shaco.

Now on a more common reason, if I see my last pick wants a highly contested champ (Like Yasuo) I'm banning it, because I don't want to risk the enemy getting it.

Lothàrs Edge1 votes

You could communicate beforehand, because people can't read minds.

General Esdeath 2 votes

I've said it and so far only 1 guy raged at me and dodged

GiantEnemyShaco5 votes

Man, I love it when people ban Shaco. It gives me a chance to really hone in on my Soraka jungle.

420 grams4 votes

I always take kalista with smite and ignite when someone bans my pick. Although, I'm thinking of switching to kench so I go for a level 1 gank with whoever banned it by swallowing them and throwing them at turret.

Jo0o7 votes

And I want to call you a douchebag for inting, but it's hard to shrug stuff like that off, sometimes.

Like, we're a teammates. You're going to use your own ban to screw ME out of how I wanted to play MY game? Seriously?

420 grams3 votes

I feel bad about it too but I feel worse when it happens to others and they give in and let the troll win. I'm not going to dodge for them, or play something that pleases them better, I'm going to go for a pick I'm bad with since they didn't want me playing what I'm good with.

KORGtuners8 votes

It's funny.

1 person makes you mad.

5 people suffer.

KORGtuners4 votes

Honestly, trolling because someone banned your pick is just rude and you shouldn't do it.

Lothàrs Edge2 votes

Rude? Hardly. It means we're no saints, but if someone bans or picks your champ in retaliation, or decides to try something else that you consider to be even more of a "troll pick" then the onus is on you.

KORGtuners1 votes

We must have different definitions of rude. Trolling is always rude in my book.

WiegrafOfValor3 votes

Nice try Yasuo

Lõyalty3 votes

Its pretty rude, but if your in a ranked game and somebody is hovering Yasuo support, I wouldn't judge you for banning yasuo.

Rainfall3 votes

unless its yasuo or lux support.

Demosthentine4 votes

You always ban yas, lux is at least somewhat legit as a support.

notice me Sin pi2 votes

lux support is more viable than a thresh support in bronze and low silver tbh

woodvsmurph3 votes

So... pros should all be reported for banning champs their opponents are good with and have the most carry potential on? Think about what you are saying.

If you were suggesting people be punished for banning a teammate's desired pick because THEY wanted that role but said player would not trade, that's a different story. People who do that are immature, toxic, and need to take a break from the game. But banning an opponent's champ that they are best at? That's just logical - learn a few champs decently well like everyone else who plays the game and it won't be a problem.

OMGSoAnnoying2 votes

Some people ban their own team's picks just to troll also. That's the point of the OP. No one worries about the other team banning you -- they don't even know that you're there or what you intend to play. If I get banned by the opponent, hey, that's fine.

When my own team does it, it's tilting, especially since I ALWAYS show what i'm looking to play, and now it shows that in the ban window as well. I saw it happen in solo q a week ago, my mid wanted to play Kata. Our botlane banned Kata, and then proceeded to feed 29 kills in 30 minutes... while streaming it and talking smack to us the whole time about how they were going to get away with it.

DrCyanide3 votes

The example was the steamer in question hovered Shaco as their intended pick, they were first pick, and yet an ally banned Shaco. It had nothing to do with thinking the enemy would pick it because it was literally impossible for the enemy to pick it.

I'm all for banning new champions in Ranked regardless of hover, but that's not what happened here. This was trolling a one trick, pure and simple.

woodvsmurph1 votes

Read closely what I said. Banning it from someone on YOUR team for no reason is NOT ok. Banning an OPPONENT'S best champion is just good practice - even if they are a 1 trick, that doesn't mean you don't have the right to ban it from them. So if it's someone on the same team and they are clearly not planning to troll/int, then I'm on the same side as you and think that is just wrong to ban a teammate's champ.

Rocnation983 votes

i ban yasuo always.

èGirl Nami2 votes

I see you're a man of culture as well

Troll for Trump2 votes

I think I'm willing to ban trynd.

Tired of people first picking trynd without any regard of whether our team comp can 4v5, and then they get counterpicked in lane, screwing everyone over.

Jo0o1 votes

Why not ban a counter to Trynd instead? Help your teammates, don't overrule them out of hand.

Troll for Trump2 votes

The problem isn't as much Trynd being countered as it is tryndamere being himself. For him to do well we need to be able to 4v5, and that's pretty difficult.

Atanchan1 votes

If you're 4v5ing while you have a Trynd on your team, all you need to do is fight the enemy team off your towers and he'll win the game for you.

Since, y'know. Literally nobody is keeping him from hitting their Nexus.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Yeah, and some teams can't do that, especially with how weak towers are. The Sej/Zac/whatever just charges in and kills off the entire team, or they get picked by a Blitz/thresh, etc. You try to play safe, but you have to warp the entire team's playstyle and picks

Trashball2 votes

I primarily play normals, and I refuse to play against yasuo, because he counters most of my favorite champs and it makes me want to break my fingers with a hammer. If you hover yasuo, and you're not first pick, and nobody can pick him for you, I will still ban him. I'm not gonna avoid banning him and potentially have to start my personal dodge timeout just because some guy on my team wants to play him.

Granted, if the fella was first pick, or first pick was willing to pick it for them, then it's pretty rude.

Lothàrs Edge2 votes

No dude, it's rude regardless of whether or not they are first pick. You can keep telling yourself that you're doing it for good reasons but it doesn't make you any less of an asshat.

Naz Von Gates2 votes

I just had this happen to me when I wanted to play yi jungle. Previous game I won, and his response was I didnt ban it, I didnt know you wanted to play. To which I honestly responded.. "I had him hovered, you seen I wanted to play him." then he truthfully responded with, "well, I dont want another afk farming master yi player in my game" People will always do this once in awhile.

warpenguin5552 votes

1: you're right people shouldn't do that on purpose 2: Shaclone is a d-bag

WngNut1 votes

It was a Vayne main, I'm not surprised.

Synnx71 votes

Nope. It shouldnt I dont want neither Lee win or Yasuo or the cancer that you descirbed as shaco ( just played a game with him in aram) , just Q E -mouse over + click = dead So much skill involved in 0 counterplay moves.

korg0231 votes

That is why i never chose my champion before my pick timer. No one knows what am i going to play and i mostly play not op/meta champs so they are never banned.

IA9hRfpP5q1 votes

Yasuo will always get banned. Just like I enjoy not playing against that unfun thing I like giving my opponents the peace of mind as well.

Lothàrs Edge2 votes

I'm fine with people banning popular champs or hit-and-miss champs, but when your teammate hovers a champ or tells you that they want to play it and you still ban it, then get ready to have the tables turned and don't point fingers when you started something you couldn't handle.

I've seen way too many people get angry when someone does it back to them.

One Ashe On

I don't mind my pick get banned by enemy team( Happened 2 time since start but still) , but teamate banning pick you intended just create toxicity where it shouldn't be before the game even start... that should be reportable and bannable.

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